Suzanne Giesemann medium readings provide evidence of love and guidance |334|

Psiclops said:
I'm usually up there cheering on Alex when he's going in for the kill (OTT metaphor!) but this time I felt a little uncomfortable.
I got the impression that her life was divided in two - the military career which was a kind of sheeple 'we're serving the country and God' probably without giving the whole thing much deep thought....and then her second life as a medium in which she tuned into something that was obviously light and not dark and she's stayed there helping others as best she can.
There are people like her who don't have the curiosity we have about the ins and outs of everything - probably that's how she came to join the military in the first place without asking the deeper ethical questions.
So to her, the question of 'Can we avoid evil by not looking at it?' is irrelevant and unimportant because as she says 'That isn't my path'
I have noticed with some other mediums I know that they are very often quite practical people who suddenly find they have this talent which seems to help people, so use it without questioning its nature or whether there is a dark side.
I have this picture in my mind of a journey across a landscape peppered with deep holes which you can fall into - either because you're not being careful, or because they are unavoidable. The holes are negative or 'evil'.
Most folk here are curious about the holes and research their nature - some of us even do some abseiling down them. But people like Suzanne just wander along happily with little curiosity or fear about the holes and say they'll deal with it if and when they fall down one.
Am I being too simplistic by second guessing her nature?
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If you're a Catholic priest you better expect me to ask about the widespread abuse of children by/in the Church. you don't have to personally own it, but you gotta own some of it.

If you were the top aid to 9-11 commish, and you splash all the Navy stuff all over yr website, then I'm gonna ask the 9-11 question. Similarly, if you're a medium -- an evidential medium -- and you're interested enough in after death communication research to link yourself to Dr. Gary Schwartz and share the stage with Joe McMoneagle, then expect me to ask questions about the the military's Stargate project.
 
Suzi Miller said:
That was the worst interview I've heard yet, and I've listened to almost all of them. Alex wasted a great opportunity to speak with a very interesting woman who probably could have shared some remarkable insights with us. But Alex chose instead to not " go where the evidence takes him" and instead go where his agenda takes him. Painful. Awful. I don't blame her for being irritated and tense. I was irritated and tense. The only line of questioning that even remotely made sense was her take on evil forces. It's interviews like this that make me re-think listening to this podcast.
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she did an excellent interview on BATGAP... you might enjoy:
 
symbol for a flat in musical notation. The plan for my life is in the key of B flat! I understood this immediately. I have a record of Pete Fountain playing the clarinet. It's a clarinet tuned to the key of B flat. I like to improvise on my guitar along with the record. The plan for my life is: "We're improvising!".
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Your plan for life was improvising? Improvising what exactly? Thanks
 
Alex said:
If you're a Catholic priest you better expect me to ask about the widespread abuse of children by/in the Church. you don't have to personally own it, but you gotta own some of it.

If you were the top aid to 9-11 commish, and you splash all the Navy stuff all over yr website, then I'm gonna ask the 9-11 question. Similarly, if you're a medium -- an evidential medium -- and you're interested enough in after death communication research to link yourself to Dr. Gary Schwartz and share the stage with Joe McMoneagle, then expect me to ask questions about the the military's Stargate project.
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Perhaps that's why your guests so often stone wall you, Alex. They think they're dealing with a true believer and start checking their watches.
 
I actually didn't get this interview at all. It seems like the worst-case scenario would have been for Suzanne to engage in wild and baseless speculation of no particular value - that seemed to be what was being asked for. But to what purpose I've no idea. I do think there are better games to be played with the precious time that the guest is offering, I would have like to hear her speak.
 
I wasn't going to comment on this podcast, but after reading how critically many posters appear to be of Alex and how lovely light and love, love & light Susan appears (and probably is), I've changed my mind. Usually I'm quite critical of Alex when he's pushing his guests, but this time...not so much.

Now it's ok for people to be all light & love - I get that, I really do. But as Alex says...

Alex said:
If you were the top aid to 9-11 commish, and you splash all the Navy stuff all over yr website, then I'm gonna ask the 9-11 question. Similarly, if you're a medium -- an evidential medium -- and you're interested enough in after death communication research to link yourself to Dr. Gary Schwartz and share the stage with Joe McMoneagle, then expect me to ask questions about the the military's Stargate project
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It seems to me that Susan Giesemann wants to remain a great advocate for the military on the one hand, yet not even listen to questions about the possible dark side that the military clearly possesses on the other. I see something hypocritical about that.

To me, not everything is light & love. And certainly not the US military.To be honest, I was gobsmacked when K9 wrote:
K9! said:
Isn't the whole point of a military to remain vigilant and protect citizens from potential evil-doers inflicting harm upon them?
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Much as I like K9, I have to ask: was she serious? Maybe if heaven has a military, that would be true.

I truly believe that Love can conquer everything, and that staying positive and in the light is the way to think. Maybe it's a weakness of mine, something I have to learn, but I just don't understand how you can be a light worker in the day, while you're still surfing porno sites at night.
 
Steve said:
It seems to me that Susan Giesemann wants to remain a great advocate for the military on the one hand, yet not even listen to questions about the possible dark side that the military clearly possesses on the other. I see something hypocritical about that.

To me, not everything is light & love. And certainly not the US military.To be honest, I was gobsmacked when K9 wrote:
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Spot on - I mean we aren't talking about the ranks of serving soldiers here, we are talking about the people at the top who make the decisions.

The awful part about the military everywhere, is that it is a toxic mixture of people who really are prepared to lay down their lives for others, and more senior people who are in it for themselves, or who are driven by pure hatred. I think some in the US military (and related areas) are driven by a hatred of Russia.

I know a lot of people desperately hope that President Trump will relax tensions with Russia.

David
 
It was a clash of worlds. Giesemann seems like a career soldier who had a tragedy, an epiphany, and discovered an ability. Behind each of those remains a professional soldier, and the military was the family business her daughter died serving. In Skeptiko world, military is a byword for a more sinister agenda. Undoubtedly much of that cynicism is justified but I don't accept an officer, even a highly ranked member of the armed forces like Suzanne Giesemann, has access to the kind of information that is too often taken as writ on this forum. Here Area 51 and its reverse engineered alien craft recovered from Roswell are assumed to be a reality, 9/11 was a Mossad-US false flag op, and crop circles are coded interplanetary information. While those memes are the next best thing to proven among some participants here, introducing such topics to Giesemann is like talk of Hobbits. I don't think she was covering, I think the military's dark underbelly, real or imaginary, was something she'd never given any serious thought to.

For someone promoting a book based on a light and love agenda, questions about the dark side are entirely legitimate, but the interview was only one step away from saying "so what do you know about plasma craft, Suzanne?" I wanted to know more about how her ability manifests, how she interprets it, what she leaned from her daughter's messages if anything, and less about her thoughts on covert black ops of which she appeared to know nothing and care even less.
 
gabriel said:
I think the military's dark underbelly, real or imaginary, was something she'd never given any serious thought to.
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Precisely.

The question that I would love an answer to, and it may seem off the wall. Would Archangel Michael have the same approach to Alex's questioning as Susan had?
My friend Suzanne is a psychic, she says that she sometimes calls on Archangel Michael to fight off evil spirits, she says that he is extremely powerful, but loving. She is very respectful of him.

Is it enough to just see the light and love? Maybe it is, maybe it's not. For what it's worth, I think that without seeing and acknowledging the dark side, we are missing something. Strength and wisdom must go together.

With respect to all.
 
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Well I certainly wasn't saying "how lovely light and love, love & light Susan appears (and probably is)". More simply, I learned a lot about Alex and almost nothing about Suzanne. I'm in no position to comment on who or what she is or stands for.

Edit: I guess what this really means is simply that I'm not in the target audience for this particular podcast, and leave it at that.
 
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gabriel said:
I don't accept an officer, even a highly ranked member of the armed forces like Suzanne Giesemann, has access to the kind of information that is too often taken as writ on this forum. Here Area 51 and its reverse engineered alien craft recovered from Roswell are assumed to be a reality, 9/11 was a Mossad-US false flag op, and crop circles are coded interplanetary information.
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I think the most important issues, are not those at all, but what are the actual aims of the US military. The fiction is that they don't have any aims, they just serve - but nobody really believes that - remember President Eisenhower's warning about "The Military Industrial complex".

Maybe Alex would do better if he assessed whether his guest was willing to go into the areas that he feels are important, and then either tailored the interview to fit what they are willing to discuss, or even drop the interviewee in favour of a guest who is more open. I think finding guests that did want to discuss the dark side of ψ, would be useful.

David
 
Typoz said:
Well I certainly wasn't saying "how lovely light and love, love & light Susan appears (and probably is)". More simply, I learned a lot about Alex and almost nothing about Suzanne. I'm in no position to comment on who or what she is or stands for.
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That's fair comment, it was my impression of how Susan appears, I was wrong to speak for others.
 
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Steve said:
I wasn't going to comment on this podcast, but after reading how critically many posters appear to be of Alex and how lovely light and love, love & light Susan appears (and probably is), I've changed my mind. Usually I'm quite critical of Alex when he's pushing his guests, but this time...not so much.

Now it's ok for people to be all light & love - I get that, I really do. But as Alex says...



It seems to me that Susan Giesemann wants to remain a great advocate for the military on the one hand, yet not even listen to questions about the possible dark side that the military clearly possesses on the other. I see something hypocritical about that.

To me, not everything is light & love. And certainly not the US military.To be honest, I was gobsmacked when K9 wrote:

Much as I like K9, I have to ask: was she serious? Maybe if heaven has a military, that would be true.

I truly believe that Love can conquer everything, and that staying positive and in the light is the way to think. Maybe it's a weakness of mine, something I have to learn, but I just don't understand how you can be a light worker in the day, while you're still surfing porno sites at night.
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Keep in mind, Steve, that I served in a military that sent people in bright blue berets to stand in the middle of warring factions in the hope of stopping conflict. Our soldiers were given a front row seat to watch the dark side in action. I'd recommend reading Romeo Dallaire's book Shake Hands With the Devil for a tragic and very clear example of what it's like to be a Peacekeeper.

I don't think people join the military to harm others. The military does a lot of good. They evacuate people from natural disasters and deliver aid into parts of the world that are anything but safe. But there is a dark side too, and every soldier is well aware of that.

It's important to see the good and bad in all things, including the military.
 
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David Bailey said:
That is something my Mother said to me about various people she had seen dead, and when I saw her in her coffin, I could see what she meant.
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I can relate to that too but, in fairness, even people with advanced alzheimer, stroke victims or terminally ill give the same effect. The image that their body provides is not that of the person one used to know.

So I am not sure if it's all about their soul being or not being there...
 
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Bucky said:
I can relate to that too but, in fairness, even people with advanced alzheimer, stroke victims or terminally ill give the same effect. The image that their body gives is not that of the person one used to know.

So I am not sure if it's all about their soul being or not being there...
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Well it might not be - but equally, who is to say that consciousness actually stays with bodies in that state? Perhaps they have already had their NDE, and been permitted to cross the barrier when they encountered it, or said "No!", when asked if they wished to return!

David
 
Typoz said:
I actually didn't get this interview at all. It seems like the worst-case scenario would have been for Suzanne to engage in wild and baseless speculation of no particular value - that seemed to be what was being asked for. But to what purpose I've no idea. I do think there are better games to be played with the precious time that the guest is offering, I would have like to hear her speak.
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Maybe Alex could benefit from a co-host, somebody more conciliatory that allows him to continue being incisive without completely alienating the guests.
 
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