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So what is the downside/conspiracy theory take to the Paris accord?
Do we really want to restart this debate again? Anyone who thinks we should, please read the preceding 36 pages of discussion to check if their point has not already been made (perhaps by themselves).
David
The deniers must be delighted with Trump's election
Well I think the term 'denier' was chosen (not by you, of course) as a term of abuse. There are numbers of scientists who have studied this issue and do not think there is any threat at all. Ask yourself why exactly Obama has had to resort of hiding evidence, sacking a scientist, etc etc.Well there are many who deny the reality of anthropogenic climate change
and I was not referring to anyone in particular David
Good - we agree about something!I cannot say I am pleased Trump won; but I am very pleased Clinton lost
Like you, I saw Clinton as the greater threat to world peace; her belligerent foreign policy record and rhetoric led me to despise and fear the woman
I too hope that Trump will reduce the level of US foreign warmongering and regime change etc
But we dont know yet what he will either want or be able to do
Well fixing a problem that doesn't exist, won't fix another one that may be real. We can't return to primitive living unless 95% of us are eliminated. We simply have to live in a fairly artificial way, and that means using chemicals, and energy. Concerns for the biosphere have to be tackled one by one - e.g. mercury, arsenic, etc, and they absolutely have to be explored by scientists with a wide range of views. Letting obsessional scientists such as Holdren run policy will probably lead to more environmental destruction, not less. For example, if you ban a pesticide or preservative when that is not necessary, the amount of food spoilage goes up dramatically.I have never bought into the CO2 debate. I am not saying there is not an issue with CO2 due to human industrial civilisation - there obviously is
(but I make no claims about its levels and effects - I am not interested in that argument at all)
My concern is what I call the poisoning of the biosphere - and that involves far more that merely CO2 levels
In fact I consider the biospheric crisis the defining issue of this coming century