Atticus
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Well, you might not need it, but you might have it.What I don't need is some kind of cosmic meaning that gives me a permanent position in some grand scheme of things.
Well, you might not need it, but you might have it.What I don't need is some kind of cosmic meaning that gives me a permanent position in some grand scheme of things.
When I said "the other day" it was probably a couple of months or so ago :) It would've been on some podcast or other but I can't remember. There is a certain neatness to the idea... but as Jim said the neatness maybe (just?) mathematical.What's the name of the physicist?
My wife and children, a day at the beach, good friends, satsifying work, fun projects.So, what's your own meaning then, since you don't feel the need to be connected to some "grand scheme"?
Indeed. But apparently that doesn't matter until such time as it becomes obvious. Still can't imagine what it might be. Just "being a part of the grand scheme of things" doesn't sound all that exciting.Well, you might not need it, but you might have it.
My wife and children, a day at the beach, good friends, satsifying work, fun projects.
~~ Paul
I brought this up sometime last year I think. Folks here are so eager to prove life after death but don't stop for a moment it seems to ponder then what happens. How long will life after death continue?I see what Paul is saying, I would to not like to live in human form forever, just seems creepy and it would probably get redundant and boring after awhile. Now living longer? That would be cool, another 100 years or 200 I have no problem with, hell even 500.
Maybe my mind just can't grasp the living forever concept. Then again every living being alive never would of thought of living life on this planet. Maybe we just have a small scope through the lens. The idea of "eternity" is also kind of terrifying, cause I am thinking of it in a human way because I can't grasp what the "afterlife" would be like. If there is a afterlife I'm hoping it is so profound we can't begin to understand it
I brought this up sometime last year I think. Folks here are so eager to prove life after death but don't stop for a moment it seems to ponder then what happens. How long will life after death continue?
What will I do for 10 to the power of 10000 years or more?
What will I do when the universe ends in heat death? ( That's one possible scenario). Some might get around the akward questions by saying time runs differently in the after life, that might be true, but it doesn't get around that there's only one universe which like a machine is moving to ever greater entropy. Some could say perhaps there are other universes, but that seems to be a unpopular idea among some members. There are a lot of questions members don't spend much time thinking about. And it seems nde researchers don't too.
And it seems nde researchers don't too.
Hmm. We need to get Radin or Kelly down here. If they want to prove telepathy, then they've got themselves a damn fine candidate.Folks here are so eager to prove life after death but don't stop for a moment it seems to ponder then what happens. There are a lot of questions members don't spend much time thinking about.
Only materialists need to spend time thinking about what they will do for billions of years, since they are the ones coming up with the idea of transferring the mind from a frail physical body to a machine. An idea which, if it were possible, would constrain the mind to remain imprisoned within this space-time, rather than being released from this reality as humankind has always done.In any case it's not clear why NDE researchers have to spend lots of time thinking about what they will do for billions of years, their concern is examining whether the NDE happens when the brain is dead.
This is so riddled with fallacies. Most people here seem to be concerned primarily with if there is a life after death in one form or another. That's the first step... the majority of discussion, it seems to me, is pertaining to whether or not such a thing exists and how it might exist, and less so the implications if it were to exist.I brought this up sometime last year I think. Folks here are so eager to prove life after death but don't stop for a moment it seems to ponder then what happens. How long will life after death continue?
What will I do for 10 to the power of 10000 years or more?
What will I do when the universe ends in heat death? ( That's one possible scenario). Some might get around the akward questions by saying time runs differently in the after life, that might be true, but it doesn't get around that there's only one universe which like a machine is moving to ever greater entropy. Some could say perhaps there are other universes, but that seems to be a unpopular idea among some members. There are a lot of questions members don't spend much time thinking about. And it seems nde researchers don't too.
Can anyone even define nothing? Serious question.
How about 'the absence of anything"? Did I win a prize? :)Im a bit late for that one, but it seems highly unlikely that we humans can even begin to define 'something' that is nothing. Our language confines us here aswell.
We already have a hard time trying to define something. Is it sufficient for something to exist in space and time? Is something made out of a some sort of building blocks?
I personally imagine that there really isnt much of a seperation that can be made there. Nothing and something seems like an old fashioned black-and-white approach to all of this. Things are rarely that easy.
Im a bit late for that one, but it seems highly unlikely that we humans can even begin to define 'something' that is nothing. Our language confines us here as well.
Paul whybis it that I don't fear living forever like you do ?
Because either (a) I'm going to exist forever and there is no possible way this won't be absolutely awful, or (b) It's not really me living forever. Do not confuse existing a long time with existing forever.
I disagree with Paul. I don't believe in the alternative b, and I would change the alternative a as follows: I'm going to exist forever and there is no possible way this won't be absolutely delightful.
Thankfully the evidence is mounting against this ridiculous and bleak worldview we call materialism.
I think you are imagining a "long time" as opposed to "forever." I don't believe you could sustain your interest forever unless perhaps you were a different sort of being.Paul whybis it that I don't fear living forever like you do ? Are you privy to info that I don't have ?
For I think of it like this . I believe that I will have all of eternity to explore the infinite god.
The beauty is I will always have something new to discover . Plus I'll see all my loved ones and other people . Maybe even aliens from other worlds ;)