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This is well worth watching.
especially 55:00 through 2:15:37
Dr. Zach Bush
I can’t imagine anyone not benefiting from this immensely
This is well worth watching.
I did previously write on the difference between truth and facts - I think to dpdownsouth.We'd probably need to start with a working definition of "facts" and how one comes to know something as "fact".
Ohhhh Eric!!Well, I totally disagree with you.
If you go to doctor A, with a bad infection in your leg, and he says he will give you powerful antibiotics and you'll be ok in time - and then you go to Dr B for second opinion, and he says it's too late for antibiotics, he must amputate the leg, then you have a difference of opinions in an serious and uncertain situation and a reasonable person might make the tough decision to have the leg amputated.
However if Dr C says that the only solution is to amputate your head to protect your brain from the infection, then we have crossed the threshold into madness. We are well beyond a matter of a difference of opinion.
Unless you don't understand what the result of cutting off your head would be; which is where I think you are with regards to the damage to the economy, the healthcare system (for non-covid illnesses) and civil liberties/social unrest.
The trouble is, however successful you are, you will have no immunity, so one person arriving on your shores could kick it off again.The problem for democratic governments is that they have to represent the people. When folks are potentially losing their lives, or their parents or grandparents they want something done. The polling indicates massive support for the shutdowns from voters. What is a politician meant to do?
In Nz we’ve had a strict, largely successful lockdown and pretty much eradicated it. ‘Going hard and going early’ was considered both better for the health and the economy of the nation. Whilst I don’t entirely agree, the message has been strong and consistent, and overwhelmingly supported by the country. We are now easing out of the lockdown and generally feeling positive about getting the economy moving again.
The trouble is, however successful you are, you will have no immunity, so one person arriving on your shores could kick it off again.
Obviously you benefit from living in a sparsely populated country.
David
Two weeks enforced quarantine for anyone coming in.
The trouble is, however successful you are, you will have no immunity, so one person arriving on your shores could kick it off again.
Obviously you benefit from living in a sparsely populated country.
David
Well, David, if you take a point of view that a malf type person is actually still fighting a long ago unresolved problem called "controlling bodies" you might understand that arguing "facts" is as useful as hammering your head against a wall.Two weeks enforced quarantine for anyone coming in.
FWIW, I agree with bill maher. But I’m in the vast minority and we live in a democracy. People want to lengthen the lives their elderly relatives (almost) no matter what. This is a value judgment (not science) that the people have decided on, and politicians would be foolish not to listen.
FWIW, I agree with bill maher. But I’m in the vast minority and we live in a democracy. People want to lengthen the lives their elderly relatives (almost) no matter what. This is a value judgment (not science) that the people have decided on, and politicians would be foolish not to listen.
malf, I won't say another word if you spend ten minutes and watch this... the end of Dr. Zach Bush's talk with Del Bigtree.
Bollocks.
People think what they’re told to think. They want what they think everyone else thinks everyone else wants. They fear whatever is fearfully presented to them. And that unknown percentage who dissent will remain unknown because they wear a social mask and pretend to agree with the authorities anyways because that’s what you must do in business or in polite company.
******All,
I would encourage you to look into an organization named "Avaaz". Antonia Staats - the married woman that Ferguson was breaking his own shelter at home polices to bang - is a major figure in Avaaz. One should never underestimate the power of pussy on men who are ordinarily unable to obtain it (or at least not obtain it in high quantity and quality). It looks like the classic intel "honey trap" to me. Ferguson probably already had leanings towards Avaaz thinking anyhow. Ferguson and Fauci were in communication. I think we need to consider Avaaz's influence on how covid is being presented to the public and related policies.
The Avaaz Facebook page is especially enlightening. Some people here might even like it and take it seriously. It's all green new deal stuff. Globalism and socialism. Many propaganda posts about how after covid we can go vegetarian, eliminate fossil fuels, become socialists, be one world under one government. It is clear that they want to destroy the current societal structure and replace it with a radical utopian vision.
*****It's the policies. The data is already compelling.
We know that children are virtually not at risk and that younger healthy adults are at minimum risk. It is the elderly and serious sick that are at risk.
There is no ambiguity in the data.
Additionally, we know that the current policy of "shelter at home" is destroying the economy. We also know that it causing people to become unhealthy and even die because a) they can't their doctor and b) they have been afraid to go to the hospital. We also know that psychiatric prescriptions are up 25% and that drug ODs and suicides are up significantly.
Then there's the damage to civil liberties - less quantifiable, but not without meaning.
So I have no idea what you're hung up on. The path forward is clear cut as it has been for more than a month. Open up the country and isolate the elderly and chronically ill. The cost of not doing far outweighs the cost of "staying the course".