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    NDES and OBES: dreams are the key

    I didn't mean it that way, I just meant that I literally couldn't imagine it coming to an end naturally. I enjoyed the discourse too and although we perhaps became a little heated at times, this is fine and normal and I appreciate the general tone of the conversation and that lack of ad hominen...
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    NDES and OBES: dreams are the key

    We are fleshing out our argument hopefully for the benefit of readers, that said I think we have gone as far as we can in that regard and that its descending into a wordy exchange of Opinon vs Opinion and neither of us are budging on our own opinions and interpretations of data. So I will, in...
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    NDES and OBES: dreams are the key

    Yes, so again you are appealing to something baseless, that one can dream without the capacity for brain activity that we have at the only time we actuaully know we are dreaming Fundamentally different experiences yes as evideved by the NDE'ers themselves, connected in the sense that all forms...
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    NDES and OBES: dreams are the key

    I see what your saying, it seems like it would be quite a controversial experiment. Define non functional, do you think the consciousness principle can re-enter if the brain is truly "Non functional". "It has been" is my interpretation of Data, "it has not been " is yours. Restructuring in...
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    NDES and OBES: dreams are the key

    Behind all our fancy language, it boils down to that fact that we both have different opinion based on different interpretations of the data and we are both convinved that the other is misstepping to some degree, we need more input from others!
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    NDES and OBES: dreams are the key

    Looking through 6 journals I have mentioned the word telepathy just once, in that instance I singled it out because it was different than my general dream experience. The fact that a type of communication which is different from that in waking life is reported in the majority of NDE accounts in...
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    NDES and OBES: dreams are the key

    Again, high brain activity is correlated with dreaming, low to zero is correlated with the NDE. The idea that we can dream in a way that is strangely similar between cultures and across time during a time of low to zero brain activity and in many cases cease of bloodflow to the brain is just not...
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    NDES and OBES: dreams are the key

    Your missing the genuine gravitas of this point (I dare humbly say). Even if you showed electrical activity you would have to make the jump that the consciousness recollection is from that time. Regarding "hearing when the brain is demonstrated as being non-fcuntoinal" runs into this same...
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    NDES and OBES: dreams are the key

    To attempt to bring the full circle I will newly summate my ideas against the notion of the NDE as a type of dream. Again, we can agree that similarities exist between states of consciousness as they are all "states of consciousness" but this does not mean they are all equatable directly...
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    NDES and OBES: dreams are the key

    I've often wondered abotu this myself, though I do think that she said the experience generally was unlike a dream stands alone, and also something so different as seeing vs not seeing is something that would be so world shaking it might be inferred merely by the reaction of the NDE'er relative...
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    NDES and OBES: dreams are the key

    The point was that you havn't shown anything close to evidence for this beyond saying "it could have happened". And for me, I don't see ANY imperatie to lead someone out fo the world in this way whatsoever and I truly doubt any such evidence will every be found. I have no idea what that...
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    NDES and OBES: dreams are the key

    You want the brain monitored during the process? Great, let's assume we find some deep electrical activity which can explain higher mental faculties etc etc, this STILL would not prove that the events reported during the NDE happened at the exact and particular times which correlated with this...
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    NDES and OBES: dreams are the key

    Thank you for bringing this thread back to where it started. This is another example of very strong evidence against the extremely weak dream hypothesis. Let's get back to addressing this more directly.
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    NDES and OBES: dreams are the key

    I mean it is the subject I know more about than any other as I have and continue to study it in depth, particularly micro and cell biology. I am a qualified Lab Technician and will be finishing my Bachalor of Sciences in Dundalk Institute of Technology in a couple of years. Yes I am talking...
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    NDES and OBES: dreams are the key

    Again, we disagree on the quality of the data and our interpretation of it. What your long winded comment boils down too is that you are appealing to a potential capacity of the brain for which there is no basis. The veridical accounts are too numerous to so casually disregard and constitute...
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