The #QAnon Conciousness Phenomena

https://www.theepochtimes.com/plea-...ng-on-other-us-attorneys-offices_2583670.html


Plea Deal in House IT Scandal Not Binding for Other US Attorney’s Offices
By Jasper Fakkert
July 4, 2018 4:24 pm
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A plea deal reached by former House IT aide Imran Awan is only limited to the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia, details of the agreement reveal.

As part of the deal reached on July 3, Awan pleaded guilty to one charge of bank fraud. In exchange, prosecutors agreed to not file additional charges against him. Charges against his wife, Hina Alvi Awan, were also dropped.

The terms of the deal, however, stipulate that it does “not bind the Civil Division of this Office or any other United States Attorney’s Office, nor does it bind any other state, local, or federal prosecutor.”

“It also does not bar or compromise any civil, tax, or administrative claim pending or that may be made against your client,” it states.

This means that other U.S. attorney’s offices or prosecutors could still file charges against Awan if evidence of wrongdoing is found.
 
China is waging a trade war against the US through specific tactics resulting in loss of American jobs and manufacturing plants. This creates a national security threat when equipment and components needed for military and civilian products are no longer available from US sources.

Chinese trade war tactics include: Forced prison labor, child labor, lax labor protection laws, lax pollution controls (this is an international problem Chinese air pollution does not stay in China, it blows across the pacific to the US and around the world, Pollution in Chinese rivers flows into the ocean.), government subsidies, currency exchange rate manipulation, appropriation of foreign factories once they are set up in China, theft of intellectual property, reverse engineering, etc etc.... Many of these tactics are in violation of trade agreements.

Should the US fight back?

Economists can make a case that the economic benefits to the US in lower cost products for consumers and lower cost components for manufacturers outweigh the costs. And they can argue unions and minimum wage laws drive up the cost of labor in the US. But that does not address the national security risks, the inhumane treatment of Chinese workers, outright theft, and pollution of the global environment. (It's more than just CO2).


White House National Trade Council and Office of Trade and Manufacturing Policy Director Peter Navarro spoke about the U.S.-China trade relationship. He released a report from the Office of Trade and Manufacturing Policy outlining why the U.S. must be strong on trade. June 28th, 2018.​

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/FINAL-China-Technology-Report-6.18.18-PDF.pdf

China’s Strategies of Economic Aggression

 Protect China’s Home Market From Imports and Competition
 Expand China’s Share of Global Markets
 Secure and Control Core Natural Resources Globally
 Dominate Traditional Manufacturing Industries:
 Acquire Key Technologies and Intellectual Property From Other Countries, Including
the United States
 Capture the Emerging High-Technology Industries That Will Drive Future Economic
Growth15 and Many Advancements in the Defense Industry

Vectors of China’s Economic Aggression in the Technology and IP Space
1. Physical Theft and Cyber-Enabled Theft of Technologies and IP
o Physical Theft of Technologies and IP Through Economic Espionage
o Cyber-Enabled Espionage and Theft
o Evasion of U.S. Export Control Laws
o Counterfeiting and Piracy
o Reverse Engineering​
2. Coercive and Intrusive Regulatory Gambits
o Foreign Ownership Restrictions
o Adverse Administrative Approvals and Licensing Requirements
o Discriminatory Patent and Other IP Rights Restrictions
o Security Reviews Force Technology and IP Transfers
o Secure and Controllable Technology Standards
o Data Localization Mandates
o Burdensome and Intrusive Testing
o Discriminatory Catalogues and Lists
o Government Procurement Restrictions
o Indigenous Technology Standards That Deviate From International Norms
o Forced Research and Development
o Antimonopoly Law Extortion
o Expert Review Panels Force Disclosure of Proprietary Information
o Chinese Communist Party Co-opts Corporate Governance
o Placement of Chinese Employees with Foreign Joint Ventures​
3. Economic Coercion
o Export Restraints Restrict Access to Raw Materials
o Monopsony Purchasing Power​
4. Information Harvesting
o Open Source Collection of Science and Technology Information
o Chinese Nationals in U.S. as Non-Traditional Information Collectors
o Recruitment of Science, Technology, Business, and Finance Talent​
5. State-Sponsored, Technology-Seeking Investment
o Chinese State Actors Involved in Technology-Seeking FDI
o Chinese Investment Vehicles Used to Acquire and Transfer U.S. Technologies
and IPa
 Mergers and Acquisitions
 Greenfield Investments
 Seed and Venture Funding​


 
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For goodness sake Jim, this is hardly insightful in any way, shape or form as Trump's supporters demonstrate the exact same behavior patterns.
Well let's put it this way. If by some accident of history, a criminal makes his way to the White House, or commits a crime while there (Nixon), it is right and proper that investigations are put in place to convict the man and remove him from office. However this should be done reluctantly. In particular, great care should be taken to ensure that the investigating team were not politically biased. I think that in the abstract, practically everyone would agree with that.

In Trump's case, the charge seems incredibly vague, and has become no clearer after well over a year of investigation - did he arrange for the Russians to write something favourable about him (on FB, or in a newspaper, or where) - if he did, is this actually an offence, etc!. Furthermore, key people in that investigation leaked information to the press and one said to his girlfriend, "We will stop Trump". The investigating lawyer's preferred tactic seems to be to coerce Trump's colleagues to reveal something damaging. Well just as evidence obtained under torture is unreliable, I would say that evidence obtained under threat of a 10 year jail sentence is equally unreliable. Much of this is being discussed in congressional hearings, yet most of the media studiously avoid discussing the obvious conclusions.

In other words, the reality of what is going on is just about as far removed from a fair and balanced process as it is possible to imagine.

If you really want to argue this point, I suggest you delve into some of the facts that are coming out.

I used to support the Democrats, including Obama (I obviously have no vote), but something has changed in recent years. I think it is that they have become ruthless in their pursuit of office - the truth about just about anything doesn't matter. You could see it even before the election. I could understand a politician describing a group of criminals or bankers (if there is a difference) as "deplorables", but to describe the portion of the population that planned to vote for Trump - mainly extremely poor people - as "deplorables" struck me as, well, deplorable!

David
 
David asked me about Democrats, I was answering his question. If he asked me about republicans maybe I would have said something similar about them. But the fact that everyone suffers from confirmation bias makes my point stronger not weaker - no one is exempt.

Everyone suffers from confirmation bias, but Trump supporters are not as far off from reality as Trump haters because Trump supporters are getting the reality they expected while Trump haters are not.

Trump haters' system of beliefs was turned up-side-down after Hillary Clinton lost the election. They were told a Trump win would result in every dystopian nightmare coming true but not to worry because Hillary would win. Then she lost and they received a huge dose of cognitive dissonance.

Since the election, many things Trump supporters expected - lower unemployment, improved economy, etc are occurring - not a cause of cognitive dissonance. But Trump haters have to explain why all the dystopian predictions did not come true, why the prediction of a stock market crash did not come true, why predictions of war with North Korea did not come true etc etc - more cause for cognitive dissonance. Trump supporters are getting the reality they expected. Trump haters are not. Trump haters have to do a lot more ignoring, rationalizing, and inventing in order to keep their "reality" consistent with their strongly held beliefs. (Scott Adams explains it in detail in this viedo https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1014512373640466434 )

http://blog.dilbert.com/2017/08/17/how-to-know-youre-in-a-mass-hysteria-bubble/


Anyway, I am willing to admit I suffer from confirmation bias. I do. Everyone does. Will you reply that you suffer from it too?
To your last question I would answer "of course". However, I'm not the one doggedly defending one side with bolded statements only substantiated from confirmation biased-based sources.
 
To your last question I would answer "of course". However, I'm not the one doggedly defending one side with bolded statements only substantiated from confirmation biased-based sources.

Can you go through what I wrote item by item - I don't know what you mean by my 'last question' - do you mean my last paragraph?

David
 
"There is going to be a major Black exit from the Democrat party."

3:33

The conversation is different. I actually think digital media has allowed for this. For so long we were sort of trapped and we saw the version of society that CNN projected towards us. That was being played in our households. Now we have social media. Now they're hearing different voices and different ideas, the people that are combating the wrong facts that are coming out of those TV screens. And they're seeing people like me who popped up on youtube with a different version. And I am seeing so many black people pop up on youtube on facebook on twitter using different hashtags. There is going to be a major Black exit from the Democrat party."

 
What is possibly the greatest crime of the past decades and which Trump is trying to remedy is not in covered by the mainstream news at all. It is a bi-partisan crime: the selling out of the US economy to the detriment of the public to benefit wall street and large corporations. Many people don't notice it because the US economy is so strong. When things are not too bad, it's hard to miss what could have been so much better.. But to the people who suffered the most, factory workers, it was very noticeable. Eventually after decades of victimization and lies by both parties, they figured out the problem was in Washington DC and elected Trump.

This crime is equivalent to giving away military and industrial secrets and tax payer money to the highest bidder because it reduces the technological base of the country and impoverishes workers in many industries. It is equivalent to treason. It was hidden behind an economic theory slight of hand - economists failed to explain the whole story. Maybe they were ignorant like so many ivory tower egg heads, or maybe they just didn't care about workers because they identified with wall street and large corporations. Whatever the case, to understand the problem and solution you have to understand MAGAnomics.

Here is a good starting point for those who want to learn more:

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...pected-wall-street-financial-media-not-happy/
MAGAnomics: Middle-Class Wage Rates Climbing as Expected, Wall Street Financial Media Not Happy…​
 
What is possibly the greatest crime of the past decades and which Trump is trying to remedy is not in covered by the mainstream news at all. It is a bi-partisan crime: the selling out of the US economy to the detriment of the public to benefit wall street and large corporations.
Well that and the fact that Obama/Clinton destroyed Libya, and were well on their way to destroy Syria using less open techniques - training opponents of Assad to fight and arming them. Yes I know, sadly the UK played a part too.

I was keen on Obama at the beginning, and I still wonder if he was blackmailed into allowing these things to go on on his watch.

My number one reason for supporting Trump, is that I think he is not addicted to war!

David
 
Jim,

When you talk to Democrat folk, are they aware of what has come out about the FBI and DOJ, and about Strzok, Comey, etc?

Do they realise that Trump's actions prevented the US getting reengaged in Syria in a big and dangerous way?

Do they really want an open southern border? If there is one thing Europe is discovering, it is that an open border just escalates out of control - are they aware of what is going on in Europe, where they are finally talking about having to keep migrants in custody until after their asylum applications have been processed, and sending the others home.

Do they realise at all that most of the media are utterly biased?

I think Trump is a very clever president,and the revelations about the FBI seem to be building towards a crescendo. I hope the timing is right, because I think the only thing that will purge politics (Also, to some extent in the UK) of blatant deceit and fear mongering will be a severe defeat for those responsible. The political system and the media needs to be purged of this poison.

David

According to Scott Adams' latest video, they really believe actual Nazis are taking over the country and there is no reasoning with them. He is calling it a zombie apocalypse. LMAO

https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1015242554122518528


zomb2.GIF
 
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To me the whole Trump hate campaign is rather like a psychological experiment. If almost every media outlet condemns the man without any real reason, how many people will follow like sheep, and how many will take an independent position. I am attending a college reunion dinner tonight - I rather hope the subject of politics comes up........

If he can avoid a nuclear confrontation with NK, and maybe put Korea on the road to reunification, will even that achievement bring him any respect?

I don't know, but clearly a lot of Americans were already ignoring the MSM at the time of his election, and I can't see he has done anything to upset them since - hopefully gained some more supporters. We will have to keep out fingers crossed in November.

I have come to realise that people near the bottom of the pile make better political decisions (on average, of course) than those better educated folk with intellectual jobs. Basically politics matters much more to them.

1) They are the ones who are most likely to lose their jobs if things go wrong.

2) Such people tend to live with far less financial cushion.

3) It will be them, or their children who will be injured or killed in any wars other than the ultimate.

4) Their lack of formal education seems to have left them with a greater ability to smell bullshit than better educated folk!

David
 
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I don't have a good sense of how many are leaving the Democratic party, now many really think Nazis are taking over, how many hate Trump because he talks to blue collar workers in their own dialect, how many are deliberately spreading Trump hate to increase votes for democrats etc etc. I'm not sure about the media either. They do what is necessary to increase ratings but some also seem to believe their own propaganda.

I think a lot of the hatred of Trump supporters is just ignorant misinformed prejudice against people they never met.

https://nypost.com/2017/10/21/the-other-half-of-america-that-the-liberal-media-doesnt-cover/
Spurred by a fear that red and blue America were drifting irrevocably apart, I decided to venture out from my overwhelmingly Democratic neighborhood and engage Republicans where they live, work and pray. For an entire year, I embedded myself with the other side, standing in pit row at a NASCAR race, hanging out at Tea Party meetings and sitting in on Steve Bannon’s radio show. I found an America far different from the one depicted in the press and imagined by presidents (“cling to guns or religion”) and presidential candidates (“basket of deplorables”) alike.

I spent many Sundays in evangelical churches and hung out with 15,000 evangelical youth at the Urbana conference. I wasn’t sure what to expect among thousands of college-age evangelicals, but I certainly didn’t expect the intense discussion of racial equity and refugee issues — how to help them, not how to keep them out — but that is what I got.​
 
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I don't have a good sense of how many are leaving the Democratic party, now many really think Nazis are taking over, how many hate Trump because he talks to blue collar workers in their own dialect, how many are deliberately spreading Trump hate to increase votes for democrats etc etc. I'm not sure about the media either. They do what is necessary to increase ratings but some also seem to believe their own propaganda.

I think a lot of the hatred of Trump supporters is just ignorant misinformed prejudice against people they never met.

https://nypost.com/2017/10/21/the-other-half-of-america-that-the-liberal-media-doesnt-cover/
Spurred by a fear that red and blue America were drifting irrevocably apart, I decided to venture out from my overwhelmingly Democratic neighborhood and engage Republicans where they live, work and pray. For an entire year, I embedded myself with the other side, standing in pit row at a NASCAR race, hanging out at Tea Party meetings and sitting in on Steve Bannon’s radio show. I found an America far different from the one depicted in the press and imagined by presidents (“cling to guns or religion”) and presidential candidates (“basket of deplorables”) alike.

I spent many Sundays in evangelical churches and hung out with 15,000 evangelical youth at the Urbana conference. I wasn’t sure what to expect among thousands of college-age evangelicals, but I certainly didn’t expect the intense discussion of racial equity and refugee issues — how to help them, not how to keep them out — but that is what I got.​
Jim, shouldn't the latter part of this be in quotes?

David
 
Are you talking about the part that is indented? It is indented to show it is a quote from the link above it.
I sometimes use quotes when I don't care if anyone reads it because if it is too long you have to click to see the whole thing. Also in case I want to quote myself in the future, indents are included but quotes are not.
 
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