Coronavirus Pandemic

David Bailey said:
That is curious, but a successful conspiracy surely tries to be secret - not advertise itself like this.

One thing I find strange about Skeptiko, is that we discuss a wide range of things, but while we discuss possible psychic connections quite freely, we almost never try to invoke them in connection with matters that might loosely be called political.

We often hear of the idea that we actually create some or all of consensus reality, and I seriously wonder if exercises like this may unwittingly create something in consensus reality.

David
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Wow. I like that psychic connection part.
So the consensus reality currently (to my sense of observation) is us returning to ourselves this "civilization problem" where we just can't seem to get it right.
So we find our way to eliminate it all and start again. Covid will not end it but our reactions might.

You can call it a game, but its quite serious. What ARE we (we = reference psychic connection) trying to do with reality?
 
https://www.myjoyonline.com/news/he...ctories-for-7-potential-coronavirus-vaccines/

Bill Gates is funding new factories for 7 potential coronavirus vaccines​
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Bill Gates is plugging money into building factories for seven promising coronavirus vaccines, despite the fact it will mean wasting billions of dollars.​
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In a preview clip released from Friday’s episode of The Daily Show, the Microsoft billionaire told host Trevor Noah that his philanthropic organization, the Gates Foundation, can mobilize faster than governments to fight the coronavirus outbreak.​
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“Because our foundation has such deep expertise in infectious diseases, we’ve thought about the epidemic, we did fund some things to be more prepared like a vaccine effort, our early money can accelerate things,” said Gates.​
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Gates added he was picking the top seven from the available vaccine candidates and building manufacturing capacity for them.​
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“Even though we’ll end up picking at most two of them, we’re going to fund factories for all seven just so we don’t waste time in serially saying ‘ok which vaccine works’ and then building the factory,” he said.​
 
I'm re posting this because it seems like the original is not showing up in the thread for some reason...

Jim_Smith said:
This article published in Science, the Journal of the American Association for the Advancement of Science seems to be the source of the statistic that 80% of infections come from asymptomatic cases.
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https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/03/24/science.abb3221

Substantial undocumented infection facilitates the rapid dissemination of novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV2)​
Ruiyun Li1,*, Sen Pei2,*,†, Bin Chen3,*, Yimeng Song4, Tao Zhang5, Wan Yang6, Jeffrey Shaman2,†​
See all authors and affiliations​
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Science 16 Mar 2020:​
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DOI: 10.1126/science.abb3221​
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"undocumented infections were the infection source for 79% of documented cases "​
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"These undocumented infections often experience mild, limited or no symptoms and hence go unrecognized "​
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"Here we use observations of reported infection within China, in conjunction with mobility data, a networked dynamic metapopulation model and Bayesian inference, to infer critical epidemiological characteristics associated with SARS-CoV2, including the fraction of undocumented infections and their contagiousness. We estimate 86% of all infections were undocumented (95% CI: [82%–90%]) prior to 23 January 2020 travel restrictions. "​
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Christopher of Thailand said:
Wow. I like that psychic connection part.
So the consensus reality currently (to my sense of observation) is us returning to ourselves this "civilization problem" where we just can't seem to get it right.
So we find our way to eliminate it all and start again. Covid will not end it but our reactions might.

You can call it a game, but its quite serious. What ARE we (we = reference psychic connection) trying to do with reality?
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Well this claim is made by all sorts of people/entities - Seth said it repeatedly for example. I am never sure if it is real or whether people just say it. However, at the lowest level, where wavefunctions get collapsed all the plausible mechanisms seem to depend on something of this sort.

David
 
David Bailey said:
Well this claim is made by all sorts of people/entities - Seth said it repeatedly for example. I am never sure if it is real or whether people just say it. However, at the lowest level, where wavefunctions get collapsed all the plausible mechanisms seem to depend on something of this sort.

David
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Consciousnes could be said to manifest "from" there.
It is thee "there" we who have "theres" from which to look, look to find it.
But, the glassy feeling we get when noticing something like that "there" is the lie that "there" is a place within present-time-limited space (the space limited to present time - I think the space with "it" exists, but not all the time in present time space).

Those last 2 sentences were written more for Alex - I think he would get it.

I am sure my style has stymied you again. Please just let it go if it has.
 
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Hurmanetar said:
If I could trust the safety and effectiveness studies to be performed thoroughly honestly and scientifically without bias and if I could trust the manufacturer and if I could trust the government to not forcibly vaccinate, then I’d be all for it.
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Sort of applies to everything you purchase and use from a third party. Hardly a basis from which one could reliably discern between what's earnest/good and what's dishonest/bad.
 
A great song. Why I posted it here, in the Coronavirus thread? Well, because its lyrics and video offer us a chillingly precise description (as precise as it can be as long as poetic and metaphoric forms are used, of course) of an insane situation that we all face now...

P.S. The song itself is 6 years old, so nothing deliberate here. Just a coincidence... or maybe a bit of a creative precognition.

 
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https://wbznewsradio.iheart.com/con...-more-staff-with-coronavirus-than-inpatients/

These Hospitals Have More Staff With Coronavirus Than Inpatients​
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BOSTON (WBZ NewsRadio) — Three hospitals in the Beth Israel Lahey Health System are reporting more employees with confirmed cases of coronavirus than inpatients with confirmed cases.​
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As of Sunday at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston, there are 106 employees with confirmed cases, versus 86 inpatients with confirmed cases.​
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Lahey Hospital & Medical Center in Burlington currently has 66 confirmed cases of COVID-19 among its employees, and 51 confirmed cases among its inpatients.​
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At New England Baptist Hospital in Roxbury, there have been 10 confirmed cases in employees, and one confirmed case in an inpatient.​
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There are now a total of 289 BILH System employees with coronavirus, although not all of them have patient-facing roles.​
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