Trump Consciousness

No. You asked for alternative witnesses to a free and fair election. This is in addition to the witnesses already supplied by silence, Bart, chris and myself in this thread. How easy it is for you to reject those sources (mine was from the right-wing daily mail :D) and retreat into magaland to find the reassuring cuddles you need.

What sources do you think a judge will find credible?

It’s absolutely pointless discussing this any further with you.

Yet you right of anything that is inconvenient for you, including actual people who are willing to put there life on the line, who have nothing to gain. Calling it a shit show and a fishing trip. And never address the claims. All In support of a corrupt corporate interest that is the media, who has a disastrous track record of lies and deceit. That is your only source. You fumble about trying to justify every single instance with nothing but baseless guesses while cherry picking what you think you can explain away with no basis or substance.

I believe there is massive fraud, that is my belief. I do not know the truth. Yet you think you do, and are unwilling to even consider the possibility.
That is the hard cold truth malf.
 
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Write off?

And there it is....lol.

Here is my amendment again for you to deny.

I believe there is massive fraud, that is my belief. I do not know the truth. Yet you think you do, and are unwilling to even consider the possibility.
That is the hard cold truth malf.
 
Find that quote from me? Certainly sounds out of character...

But you misrepresented the situation over here. ‘Gulags’ etc.

I was against lockdowns but they served a purpose and we are very much reaping the rewards now.

We have not had, or needed, lockdowns since mid May and life is, to all intents and purposes, normal. (An added advantage is no visiting whinging poms or intellectually challenged Aussies.)

The measures taken (and strong consistent leadership) have been supported by the people hence the government being returned in a landslide. I know ‘democracy’ seems a quaint, outdated concept to some on this thread, but we’ll see how that plays out.

http://www.skeptiko-forum.com/threads/coronavirus-pandemic.4489/page-72#post-145352


Malf said:
People here are mainly angry that it’s out in the community again having had normal life for nearly 4 months. Thus we’re (generally) committed to getting our freedoms back as quick as we can. Whatever it takes.

And laughing at everyone else.

Which was a direct response to my post below


diverdown said:
New Zealand First wants quarantine shifted to military facilities to reduce costs and is calling for a long-term alternative to lockdowns.

The political party released its new quarantine policy on Wednesday outlining how it wants to prepare New Zealand for future pandemics, emphasising the need to consider investment in alternative managed isolation facilities.


It proposes moving quarantine into one or more existing military facilities, and options include the military camp at Waiouru in the North Island, the Ohakea camp at Manawatu and the Burnham military camp in Christchurch.

Managed isolation facilities are currently run by the Government in hotels. The reason the hotels are chosen is because they have separate bathrooms to keep people distanced.

NZ First is proposing that New Zealand Defence Force personnel be posted on long-term operational rotations which would minimise movement in and out of quarantine facilities.

"We will build extra temporary and/or longer-term infrastructure construction - prefabricated buildings, facilities, and processing assets," NZ First's policy says.

diverdown said:
Long-term alternative to lockdowns? Processing assets? And you think concern over whether there is an agenda at play here is a conspiracy theory that should be immediately dismissed?


I said one time that I was glad you lived far far away from me. I'm still of that opinion. I would not like to live among persons who would take my freedom away, by force, for having a bad flu type virus.

So I don't think I've misrepresented the situation over there in the slightest, because you said that the governments tough approach had resulted in a landslide victory for them again in the elections this year. That tells me that you guys prefer communism and control, over freedom.

Screw that.
 
And there it is....lol.

Here is my amendment again for you to deny.

I believe there is massive fraud, that is my belief. I do not know the truth. Yet you think you do, and are unwilling to even consider the possibility.
That is the hard cold truth malf.

Were there inconsistencies? Sure

Fraud? Possibly.

Felonies? Possibly.

Both sides: Surprised if not.

Sytematic, from the top: Doubtful (unless trump pulls this off)

Hugo Chavez controlled Dominion fraud: Doubtful.

Enough to overcome 6 million popular vote margin and reverse wins in 6 battleground states: Very doubtful.

As for my choice of sources:
 
http://www.skeptiko-forum.com/threads/coronavirus-pandemic.4489/page-72#post-145352




Which was a direct response to my post below







I said one time that I was glad you lived far far away from me. I'm still of that opinion. I would not like to live among persons who would take my freedom away, by force, for having a bad flu type virus.

So I don't think I've misrepresented the situation over there in the slightest, because you said that the governments tough approach had resulted in a landslide victory for them again in the elections this year. That tells me that you guys prefer communism and control, over freedom.

Screw that.

ok. I apologise. I was talking about the population rather than myself, the collective will of the people.
There’s a real feeling that we’ve protected, not curtailed, our freedoms by the actions taken. I understand you see it differently, but looking round the world we (generally) feel we’re in a good place.

Peace and love. X
 
Were there inconsistencies? Sure

Fraud? Possibly.

Felonies? Possibly.

Both sides: Surprised if not.

Sytematic, from the top: Doubtful (unless trump pulls this off)

Hugo Chavez controlled Dominion fraud: Doubtful.

Enough to overcome 6 million popular vote margin and reverse wins in 6 battleground states: Very doubtful.

As for my choice of sources:

Well this is much better. I listened to the short version of that O'Reilley bit. This was my exact position, as things have progressed...now I am not so sure. One thing Bill forgets is that neither he nor any of us know the full picture. I am certain things are being held for the courts outside of public opinion. We will see. things are all a little too toxic, probably better just to sit back and see it play out. Sure is interesting.
 
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Well this is much better. I listened to the short version of that O'Reilley bit. This was my exact position, as things have progressed...now I am not so sure. One thing Bill forgets is that neither he nor any of us know the full picture. I am certain things are being held for the courts outside of public opinion. We will see. things are all a little too toxic, probably better just to sit back and see it play out. Sure is interesting.
If it’s Rudy against the deep state lawyers, I know who my money is on.
 
http://www.skeptiko-forum.com/threads/trump-consciousness.4080/post-148521

"Retired Air Force General blows whistle on CIA vote hacking." Under Obama CIA software was turned on American citizens and used for spying and to change the vote totals in 2012, and 2020.​
News Reader:​
Evidence of voting fraud continues to grow and insiders in the intel community warn that the CIA could be behind efforts to meddle with the election. Here's one america's pearson sharp.​
Sharp:​
Members of America's intelligence community are raising red flags the 2020 election is being outright stolen from the American people. Retired lieutenant general Thomas McInerney who is formerly the assistant vice chief of staff of the u.s air force says two pieces of software called Hammer and Scorecard are being used by democrats as a super weapon for voter fraud.​
McInerney​
People must understand that this software was used to overturn the 2020 election. The first time in the United States in history that massive amounts of cyber warfare have been used in our voting system.​
Sharp​
McInerney says the software was designed all the way back during president George W Bush's first term in office.​
McInerney​
Hammer is a surveillance software developed by the CIA. The programmer was Dennis Montgomery. He developed this in 2003 to go after radical islamists. Scorecard is a program that was developed for CIA that manipulates voting booths.​
Sharp​
McInerney explains scorecard was intended to overturn elections in foreign countries to install leaders favorable to the united states. But then under Obama it was turned to an even more sinister purpose.​
McInerney​
Well that was done by the Obama administration. Two weeks after Obama came in 2009, February 3rd to be exact, moved it out of CIA into a secret skiff in Fort Washington Maryland. And then they started listening on U.S citizens to include chief justices prominent Americans politicians etc. When that happened Dennis Montgomery who invented the programs became a whistleblower.​
Sharp​
Under former FBI Director James Comey and former CIA Director John Brennan, both Hammer and Scorecard were redesigned to target American citizens, specifically the left's political opponents like Donald Trump.​
This software is highly illegal but with President Obama's blessing, these deep state operatives went to work on not only discrediting Donald Trump, but on undermining the 2012 and 2016 elections.​
The programs were countered in 2016 but now in 2020 they were successful and managed to sabotage the election of President Trump by instead reallocating his votes to Joe Biden.​
McInerney says it was primarily used in the battleground states and is evident in the massive vote dumps for biden in the early hours of november 4th the morning after election day.​
McInerney​
We should be demanding from the president to expose these numbers publicly. You see news networks like Fox that are ignoring it. All that mainstream media they flipped on us. They do not want to hear it. They won't let people like me on. And they don't want to hear anybody mention it. They discount it completely but we know it's true because we watched it being prepped. They used it in the primaries.​
Sharp​
McInerney believes if not for vote tampering this would have been an overwhelming win for President Trump. But that this information must be given to the right judges so they can act on it and quickly. If that doesn't happen, he predicts it could have dire consequences for future elections.​
McInerney​
If Republicans lose this election they will never win another one again. It will really be Hammer and Sickle and that flag of Russia and the Roviet Rnion and communism will be flying in the united states. China and Russia and others will own us.​

"Retired lieutenant general Thomas McInerney who is formerly the assistant vice chief of staff of the u.s air force says two pieces of software called Hammer and Scorecard are being used by democrats as a super weapon for voter fraud. " "Scorecard is a program that was developed for CIA that manipulates voting booths."

An affidavit attached to Sidney Powell's lawsuit filed in Michigan provides evidence to back up the McInerney's claim:

https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mied.350905/gov.uscourts.mied.350905.1.15.pdf

"A search of the indivisible.org network showed a subdomain which evidences the existence of scorecard software in use as part of the Indivisible (formerly ACORN) political group for Obama:"

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10 slide infographic series about Powell's lawsuit in Georgia:

http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2020/11/infographic-shocking-allegations-of.html


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No, it has evaded rigorous scrutiny.
So far that seems to be the objective case. I don't fault folks who are pro Trump or anti Biden or both for maintaining optimism that this will change, but if one is attempting to maintain even a modicum of objectivity...... Bart is right at this stage.
 
There is no objectivity here, political bias blinds completely. The media has brainwashed those who think there is nothing to see. It is clear who that is just as It is clear that fraud is apparent. We have seen votes switching televised live in front of your very eyes. There are hundreds of witness in all aspects. Unprecedented absurd statistical anomalies on multiple fronts, even some that require no professional background in such things beyond just common sense. Dominion rats on are the run. Threats and intimidation, and no logical answers for any of it. None.

All of it on top of a history of unfounded attempts to undermine a president from the same criminal cabal, this is just a final attempt and they went too far. There is plenty we can know. Some just don't want to acknowledge it. This will be a wake up call for many. Most will hear it. Some will stay under the spell in disbelief.

There is no need to argue anymore because the only answer is wait and see. So don't bother, I don't care to listen to sheep, it is pointless. This is coming out, and there is no stopping it.

I'll go out on a limb, because I think that limb is pretty sturdy quite frankly. Lets see if I'm wrong. Just tell me I am, that is fine, just realize that you have also chosen a limb to stand on. Anyone brave enough?

Biden needs to concede.
 
Federal appeals court denies Trump campaign effort to revive Pennsylvania lawsuit saying 'claims have no merit'


https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/27/politics/trump-pennsylvania-lawsuit-appeal/index.html

Bolding mine:

"The Campaign never alleges that any ballot was fraudulent or cast by an illegal voter," wrote Judge Stephanos Bibas, a Trump appointee, for the panel. "It never alleges that any defendant treated the Trump campaign or its votes worse than it treated the Biden campaign or its votes. Calling something discrimination does not make it so. The Second Amended Complaint still suffers from these core defects, so granting leave to amend would have been futile."
 
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