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  1. Jim_Smith

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    I think that if this goes on for too long the public will decide they are willing to take the risk in order to get back to normal and the government will have to give in. That's the way I feel. Personally I'm willing to take the risk. But I am willing to put up with the restrictions for the sake...
  2. Jim_Smith

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    For your reading pleasure: (I am not posting these to support my point of view. I don't agree with everything in them. I am only sharing them because they may be of interest to other members.)...
  3. Jim_Smith

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-03-26/coronavirus-lockdowns-look-smart-under-cost-benefit-scrutiny (not a quote...) By examining questions such as how much money a workers demand to take on hazardous jobs, researchers can determine the value, we as a society, consider a life to...
  4. Jim_Smith

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    What happens when I use the case fatality rate from the article vortex posted.... The Chinese took extensive precautions to stop the out break. The population of the US is 330,000,000 we had 39,000,000 cases of flu this year, one case of flu per 8.5 people, we didn't take extensive precautions...
  5. Jim_Smith

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    This is from the article Vortex posted: https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic "In Hubei, in the province of Hubei, where there has been the most cases and deaths by far, the actual number of cases reported is 1 per 1000 people and the actual rate of...
  6. Jim_Smith

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    This is from 2012. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/oct/23/jailing-italian-seismologists-scientific-community Around the world, scientists have reacted with horror to the decision by an Italian judge to sentence the seismologists to six years in jail for having given false assurances to...
  7. Jim_Smith

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/03/27/massive-protest-breaks-out-in-chinas-hubei-province-ground-zero-for-the-coronavirus/ Massive Protest Breaks Out in China’s Hubei Province, Ground Zero for the Coronavirus ... Evidently the protesters are infuriated by how the government has...
  8. Jim_Smith

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    People have argued that there are many unreported cases of covid-19, and many deaths attributed to covid-19 were really caused by something else, so the true fatality rate is much lower than what is being reported. However there are other factors that cause the fatality rate to be...
  9. Jim_Smith

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    https://news.yahoo.com/france-turned-one-high-speed-030450492.html France turned one of its high-speed trains into a vehicle to transport coronavirus patients from overburdened hospitals in the east to the facilities with more capacity in the west. Twenty coronavirus patients in critical...
  10. Jim_Smith

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    My point is that the government is not going to act upon a speculations about the death rate that might be proven by detailed research projects at some date in the future. They are going to act on the best numbers they have now for their location. What else can they do? Because infectious...
  11. Jim_Smith

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    Okay, the conspirators are taking over the UK. What are you going to do about it? It is very easy for people who are not responsible for millions of lives to speculate about the true death rate. It is another thing to have to take action to safeguard those lives and be responsible to the people...
  12. Jim_Smith

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    My source is here: https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm It is updated weekly so the value is subject to change. I'm aware of the range in estimates. I've used that myself. I use the more conservative estimate when calculating potential covid-19 deaths to avoid criticism that I am over...
  13. Jim_Smith

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    0.8 % is 8 times greater than the death rate for seasonal flu which is .1%. There were 22,000 flu deaths in the US this year. 22,000 x 8 is 176,000. If the death rate for covid-19 is .8% it could cause 176,000 deaths in the US if we weren't taking extreme precautions to prevent the spread.
  14. Jim_Smith

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    Did anyone consider if there is a conspiracy to hide the true numbers of covid-19 victims maybe to avoid blame, or to prevent panic, or maybe to prevent adequate precautions from being enacted? I am not suggesting there are such conspiracies.
  15. Jim_Smith

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    The conspiracy is in China to hide the true number of covid-19 victims and their failure to contain the outbreak:
  16. Jim_Smith

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    I don't know how to compare it to a draft, but shutting down businesses for any amount of time let alone an unspecified number of weeks is unprecedented. There's never been anything like it. However the flexibility of businesses adapting to the new conditions, contributing to the national...
  17. Jim_Smith

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/china-shuts-down-all-cinemas-again-1287040 China Shuts Down All Cinemas, Again
  18. Jim_Smith

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    There is a 2 week latency period between being infected and showing symptoms when the person is also contagious. During the exponential growth phase there are 10 x or more people not showing symptoms who are contagious than there are people with symptoms. It is only keeping people with flu...
  19. Jim_Smith

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    Did anyone consider whether there is a conspiracy to cause mass deaths by minimizing the dangers of covid-19?
  20. Jim_Smith

    Coronavirus Pandemic

    Most of the deceased are elderly but people of any age can have the disease and be contagious. 90% of the deceased are over 70. The remaining number of deaths can be a big number too - 10% of a very big number can still be a big number. Covid-19 is much more deadly for all age groups than flu...
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