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I think she's referring to "sham" used along other forms of stimulation in acupuncture studies, an example being stimulating a point that is not a "real" acupuncture point. Other alternatives often include superficial stimulation and different modes of stimulation such as ultrasound, heat...

In the interest of fairness, and good humor, perhaps we should have a subforum for strictly mind=brain discussions, or a mod- prefix. But then again, in the interest of saving time, there's already the JREF forums...

Wow, I didn't know that! Did you know that you didn't read any of the links I posted where a quick google search turned up studies that suggest otherwise? :p

Right, but with the newer studies it seems to be not as simple as that? http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0032960 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12202090 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2782729/

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10643726 It sounds like you're claiming to know for sure that "sticking needles into skins" does absolutely nothing, I havn't researched this in depth or anything but I have heard things to the contrary. Perhaps you know about these studies but found them...

This is a request for information. I've heard this meme for so long now that I often catch myself analyzing human behavior or certain scientific findings this way. "We do this and that because of our evolutionary history as hunter/gatherers." Or "Men and women are a certain way because we were...

Someone cynical might call this kind of argument "neurons of the gap". "We can't explain consciousness, but whatever it is, the next discovery about how neurons affect cognition will be IT."

Knack for that, I have it.

I think Dean radin has a blogpost where they work out that it's not worth it to win the randi challenge even if you do manage to pry 1 million dollars out of his cold dead hands.

I thought you could post anything as long as it's not an obvious argument for mind = brain? Or has that been up/down graded?

Speaking of thread derailment, and burning books, what about those orgone boxes eh?

He probably just likes you but don't know how to express it, you know, like little boys.

Entity A might say, a thing in the brain that affects the mind, this proves brain is the generator mind! Entity B might say, a thing in the brain that affects the mind, this proves that the brain is the transmitter/filter for the mind!

Do you ever think you'd live to see the day when the "proponents" turn into "skeptics" themselves because whatever the newest theories are just boggles the mind too much?

I agree, I don't generally trust anything anyone say. :p

Which questions specifically do you think that the NDE researchers asked the patients in order to induce these memories?

wooo, my first stalker. /cracks open a beverage

It might be super-duper psi? Mike's parents knew, and mike was unknowingly receiving telepathic communication from them. How did they know to send the information? They were telepathically receiving requests from you, the medium. Or you were obviously cheating by moving the glass. I'm always...

I think the real question is how many neurons does it take to emulate a transistor?