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    David Fitzgerald Spots Christian Myths, Misses Atheist Myths |356|

    Hmm, can you unpack that a bit? I consider myself a Christian, and 'politically convenient' is about the LAST way I'd personally think to describe Jesus Christ. His teachings, as I understand them, do not map cleanly onto any current large political or religious grouping; neither liberal nor...
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    Jay Dyer, What’s the Endgame for Atheists? |352|

    Interesting! I guess this might be a capsule summary of his views? At least in 1937 http://www.berdyaev.com/berdiaev/berd_lib/1952_476.html I'll have to read it, but just skimming I find this interesting: "The distinction between good and evil is a consequence of the fall into sin" seems to...
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    Jay Dyer, What’s the Endgame for Atheists? |352|

    Ah, so capital-o Orthodox, as in Greek/Russian, not 'orthodox' in the sense of 'fundamentalist' (maintaining orthodoxy). (My confusion comes about because very many Evangelicals DO self-describe themselves as 'orthodox'. Case in point: 'A Generous Orthodoxy' by Brian McLaren, who's very much on...
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    Jay Dyer, What’s the Endgame for Atheists? |352|

    I haven't read him, no. I think it's a vast oversimplification and mistake to categorise a blanket 'THE Church' as in favour of a 'dead, directionless world'. I think that's rather a very modern point of view - starting with Theism after Newton. Christian sects have generally tended to emphasis...
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    Jay Dyer, What’s the Endgame for Atheists? |352|

    A couple of responses from the transcript: 1. If Jay identifies as a Christian, he is likely coming from the US Conservative Evangelical Christian subcommunity of that faith. I say that because in the 1980s, I read a lot of material coming from that community that made the same arguments he's...
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    Will the veil be dropped in our lifetimes?

    This is a fascinating question. Maths does in fact exist, I believe, that answers it. A more foundational question that may shed light on the first is to ask: 'what IS identity? What does it mean for two things to be the same, or not the same?' In the world of psi and NDEs, identity appears...
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    Beverly Gilmour, 100s of NDE and a New Insight About Consciousness |350|

    Sadly yes. Religion and the paranormal are especially like this, but also politics, and sex, and academia, and commerce... almost everything human seems to be complicated and has bad woven in with the good. But in my experience religion is one of the most conflicted areas of the human...
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    Beverly Gilmour, 100s of NDE and a New Insight About Consciousness |350|

    That certainly seems to connect with how my mother described the several NDEs she experienced (this was back in the 1980s; the NDEs themselves occurred in the 1960s-70s, and occurred during illness). In one of them she described being shown everything, including the future, and how it was kind...
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    Beverly Gilmour, 100s of NDE and a New Insight About Consciousness |350|

    Yay, I finally got time to listen to the whole thing. (A reason I like transcripts is that it's a *lot* faster to read than to listen, but I understand they do take time and effort to produce.) I have to say I think Bev comes across very well. I get the sense she is simply reporting what she...
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    Beverly Gilmour, 100s of NDE and a New Insight About Consciousness |350|

    Her account sounds interesting but it's a pity her book doesn't have an ebook edition. Only paperback.
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    Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove, The Long-Term Future of Parapsychology |349|

    They're not always that discreet. (I mean really, who flies a giant black stealth triangle anymore, that's just so, so *provincial*. Frothy steampunk Jules Verne creations are what it's all about on the catwalks and runways of Vega this month. For next season I'm picturing: giant Greek acropoli...
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    Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove, The Long-Term Future of Parapsychology |349|

    They're not always that discreet. (I mean really, who flies a giant black triangle anymore, that's just so, so *provincial*. Steampunk Jules Verne creations are what it's all about on the catwalks and runways of Vega this month.)
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    Michael Cocks, Afterlife Teaching From Stephen the Martyr |344|

    This song ("Waste' by Foster The People) is about dealing with a friend who is a drug addict; but I also feel like it's a good description of what the Parent in this model feels towards us, the Child. We're trapped in a nightmare of our own making but we can get out. It also dramatises the idea...
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    Michael Cocks, Afterlife Teaching From Stephen the Martyr |344|

    Hi Hypermagda! These are all very good questions. For me, my picture of the world goes something like this: 1. I think all humanity, and probably all life forms on this planet, are primarily spiritual rather than physical beings. As such, I think we have a reality which isn't always apparent...
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    Michael Cocks, Afterlife Teaching From Stephen the Martyr |344|

    It really doesn't surprise me that Jon Anderson has some interesting stories. There's a vibe about his music; he's been plugged into something. https://www.theguardian.com/music/2003/jul/30/artsfeatures.popandrock "Right, this table," says the lead singer of Yes, gesturing towards the coffee...
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    Michael Cocks, Afterlife Teaching From Stephen the Martyr |344|

    And because it appeared in my playlist today: I'm really liking this 1981 Vangelis / Jon Anderson song."I'll Find My Way Home" You ask me where to begin Am I so lost in my sin You ask me where did I fall I'll say I can't tell you when But if my spirit is lost How will I find what is near...
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    Michael Cocks, Afterlife Teaching From Stephen the Martyr |344|

    I agree, that our shared consensus reality seems to contain so much very real suffering is hard to understand. I think I have always been troubled by that as long as I've been aware. Since well before my teenage years, at least. I see the pain and I think: that energy/incompleteness has to go...
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    Michael Cocks, Afterlife Teaching From Stephen the Martyr |344|

    Thanks for your comments Hypermagda! Despite the Stephen material being perhaps the more 'dramatic', Michael's personal focus is very much on synchronicity and Into The Wider Dream documents the synchronicities he noted during the 1970s and afterwards. I've had a few myself, and one of the...
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    Michael Cocks, Afterlife Teaching From Stephen the Martyr |344|

    I'm not sure that all of this quite follows. I mean I know that 'believing any part of the Bible requires accepting all of this very narrow and particular set of beliefs' is what fundamentalist churches TEACH, but I think they're not quite correct on that. I grew up in a very strict...
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    Michael Cocks, Afterlife Teaching From Stephen the Martyr |344|

    I've checked my library and the other book I have that I found (I thought) similar to Stephen in content was by a medium named Frances Bird. It was part of a four-book set published in 1988 by "Lane Center Publishing", but the tone of the writing is archaic and seems to be early 19th century...
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