First, I didn't "attack" Jules. I attacked Jules' line of reasoning. This is a discussion board. Your defense of Jules' continued ignoring of important points I raised does not speak well for you. Second, I don't need to do "research of my own" when the area of expertise is science. To my knowledge, there has never been one single major or minor scientific study of alien abduction. In order to initiate such studies, it is incumbant not on me, but on abduction claimants, to present evidence to science, from which science can work. Third, you are employing a double standard: one for Jules, and another for me. You cut Jules all kinds of slack, even though Jules made no attempt to support the reality of Jules' personal "psychic experiences", or to support the reality of physical abduction experiences. You never insisted that Jules do research to support the pro-psychic/pro abduction view. But here you are, insisting that I'm the one who needs to provide research. Wrong. That's up to the abduction claimants, and I am not a claimant. Fourth, the "wheels meet the road research" is a scientific responsibility based on the claimants' responsibility to provide science with hard evidence. Strangely, you insist on seeing me as a claimant with an abduction case to prove. I am no such thing. So your "encouragement" for me to do abduction research is both unrealistic and unfair.