I assumed what? I did not call you a thug.just because I'm emotional about this issue does not mean I'm a 'thug'. In fact yelling is said to indicate not being heard. I think LoneShaman's prophetic proviso, about the elite, confirms the environment movement is not being heard, it is being manipulated. And you've already assumed
The enemies of climate change action, in rank of most malicious to least malicious impact:
1. Socialist thugs, screaming - really focused on who they hate more than anything else... fully unaware of the work that is underway now.
2. Fossil fuel industry lobbyists
3. Science communicators
4. Apathy
5. Informed 'deniers'
6. Alarm raisers: Physicists, climate scientists
7. Engineers, market strategists, capital planners, energy companies, agricultural innovators.
I like informed deniers because I can talk with them, and listen and really consider what they have to say. I have no problem that they disagree - and some of their points are very good. I think there is something else to this, and they have suggested plurality which cannot be ignored in some cases. In the meantime, us in the real world continue robust work on solutions.
We would love for #'s 1 - 4 to join us... but...
#6 is great - BUT THEY HAVE NO SOLUTIONS... How can you raise alarm and have absolutely no solution other than symbolic crap and buzzwords...???
When I talk with physicists and climate scientists about mapping the carbon value chain on the production of corn or the contribution nodes and slack/risk value chain on consumer goods production, consumption and disposal, or waste to energy, or re-crafting global agricultural markets to promote permaculture and localism - their eyes just glaze over.... They do not know what all this even is... For instance, if you say the buzzword 'Zero Landfill' - their eyes light up because they recognize that buzzword. But they have no idea that there are 10,000 moving parts to achieving zero landfill. Thousands of people have to come together in agreement. A LOT of capital planning (socialism is NOT going to be able to achieve this without slavery) has to be done and executed, based on sound strategy, market planning, municipal bond leveraging, angel capital, engineering, design and deployment.
And as someone who has done strategy and operations in the fossil fuel industry, I can speak with them and propose compatible solutions which have large impacts, and have them go 'Hey you know, you are the first climate change promoter I have ever met, who made sense... I'm willing to listen to this.'
Things do not happen by buzzwords. And they will never happen through screaming or the elimination of capital (capital is not just money).
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