Mod+ 237. DR. PATRICIA CHURCHLAND SANDBAGGED BY NEAR-DEATH EXPERIENCE QUESTIONS

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  1. Super Sexy

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    I love how he hits [return] after every sentence.
    I gotta start doing that myself.
     
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  2. tim

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    Has anyone else had a look at Morgan's book which Super Sexy (Moowa) stuck up ?
     
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  3. tim

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    Homogeneity, or sameness, depends on what is said to be the same. Pure linear Isotropy about all observers requires models so far from human reasoning as to be impossible. An analogy later is Expanding Rubber. My Isotropy is by linear expansion by coasting in a void, and only pure at a coordinate center. To the extent we have pure Isotropy around Earth, then we are near the center of a puffball, or else expanding Spacetime creates a Hologram in which we live, with pure Isotropy. A void can contain Einstein’s Spacetime, which does not extend beyond “three” spatial dimensions, but that puts an impossible Hologram in a void. It is the impossible versus the outsider. I choose the outsider. No measurement can determine the existence of a void. A correct interpretation of Isotropy is available from our view of recession, depending on our location in the universe. Einstein could not view mechanisms of his universe from the outside, but Newton could, and I will do so later in a view of interfaces that explains “distorted Spacetime” and expansion in a void using a void to view them.

    I've copied this piece which is not untypical of the book. Maybe Dr S for brains (Linda) or Arouet could understand it, it's over my head..........
     
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  4. Don DeGracia

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    Hi

    Yes, if you would like to start a thread somewhere, I would be happy to discuss afterlife stuff with you. Best, Don
     
  5. Don DeGracia

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    Sounds like a weird gobbly goop. He seems to be talking about what is called "the cosmological principle", which is the idea that outer space is isotropic, meaning the same in all directions. It is an assumption of modern cosmology, accepted by the mainstream, but argued by many. There is a crowd of cosmologists out there who don't take it seriously at all, instead thinking that space is fractal in its structure. Certainly the distribution of matter is not isotropic, and does seem to form a fractal. But the mainstream argues that, if you take a big enough chunk of space (e.g. a cube billions of light years on edge) and average the matter in it, then it is isotropic. This to me is cheating, because averaging always blurs out differences.

    Anyway, the stuff in your quote seems to be offering his opinion about isotropy. It doesn't make any sense in the context of modern cosmology, if you are wondering.

    Don
     
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  6. DasMurmeltier

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    Alright, great :) I will open a thread for this in a few days then when i got a bit more time.
     
  7. tim

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    Thanks for the information, Don. Astrophysics is way above my head and not something that particularly interests me because the phenomenon of life and the origins of the universe are so incredibly perplexing it depresses me, maybe literally. But thanks again
     
  8. Chris

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    I've been doing that for ages, but for some reason no one has noticed.
     
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    I followed this interview on Youtube, And want to applaud Alex for his genius, By that I mean, putting these so called authorities who stand as representatives to many, regarding the conclusions we might adopt, simply by them stating their opinions, or so called scientific research. They would have us believe their own ideology, that consciousness is an emergent of the brain, rather than truly stating, they don't really know. or that there is in-fact, positive evidence for the opposition, And that's why Alex, deserves an admirable recognition, as he is a voice of reason, in a world consumed by a materialistic ideology.

    He actually puts these easy riders on the back foot, they think they are going to get an easy ride on Skeptiko, but in fact, the scepticism is directed towards them, and they are asked to back up their claims, live, to all types of listeners. When this happens, as we have seen, the intellectual dis-honesty is exposed for everyone to see, Patricia should be ashamed of herself for distorting the views of someone who dedicated a lot of time and energy the field, who's evidence was to establish to opposite.

    What an extreme example of foul play by Patricia , using her credentials to calumniate the good works of someone opposed to her worldview. An insult of the greatest magnitude, And when confronted with her remarks, she displayed the behaviour you would expect of a liar, she hid and cowered behind petty excuses.

    I am completely disgusted, and hope Alex brings more of these people who are endorsing their own agendas instead of the truth. To light.
     
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  10. Love Knowledge

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    Oh what a marvelous interview, definitely the funniest I've come across so far (I'm up to #266). It seems pretty clear to me that she was dodging Alex's questions because she had no good response. Really quite pathetic when you think about it. To pretend to not hear, make a whole charade about having phone problems, and then ultimately not respond to the email....well, that sealed the deal. If you legitimately had connectivity issues, why not answer the email?

    I love when Alex calls people out for their views and forces them to defend the nonsense. If they (mainstream science / skeptics) want to ridicule parapsychology as nonsense, they certainly have it coming and to not be able to explain why it's "nonsense" and fall flat on your face trying to defend your own views? Priceless.
     
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  11. David Bailey

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    I totally agree, and as I remember it, Alex offered her the chance to re-record the whole interview - so all that nonsense was simply an excuse to avoid what she suddenly realised would be a very tricky interview

    She is, of course, a very famous theorist, and it is inexcusable that she can't defend her views better than that!

    BTW, Your home page reports it is inaccessible to me in the UK, and I can't even access it by proxy - maybe you should look into what is wrong?

    David
     
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  12. Love Knowledge

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    Thanks for the reminder, someone else posted about that, I'm behind on working on my website. Should be able to look into it today though. Would you mind sharing what error message you get exactly? Might be helpful to fixing this problem with my hosting company.

    And yes, pretty sure he did mention he offered to re-record the interview but since she has no good response, no point in further cementing her indefensible position (from her point of view).
     
  13. dpdownsouth

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    I get the same thing:

    403: Access Forbidden

    Your location (ZA) has been blacklisted.
     
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  14. Love Knowledge

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    Thanks for sharing, good to know. I'm actually going to inquire right now. Can't understand why my site is blocking access.
     
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  15. David Bailey

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    403 Access Forbidden You location (GB) has been blacklisted

    David
     
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  16. Love Knowledge

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    Thanks David, I've asked my hosting company, they don't know. I've now escalated it to my web developers, hope to have it fixed shortly. Once that's fixed, hope people from this forum check out my site, give me their feedback. There's a ton of ground to cover (much of it still needing to be done), one section of particular relevance to the Skeptiko community is my section on parapsychology that I haven't had time to add. I'll be looking to curate resources mentioned in other threads here and build out that section. In the Skeptiko spirit, I'd venture to say, it's a community effort and I hope to encourage all the critical minds on here to help build out a community of truth seekers and quality knowledge on a variety of topics, not just parapsychology.

    Anyway, just glad to be a part of this forum and discussing important matters with like-minded folk. Thanks again for the feedback.
     
  17. David Bailey

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    Can you access your own site via your browser?

    David
     
  18. Love Knowledge

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    I always could so never realized it was a problem until a couple weeks ago, someone mentioned it to me on this forum. My developers got back to me, it was part of my firewall. It should be fixed now. Can you check if you can access the site now? Thanks
     
  19. Love Knowledge

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    Dpdownsouth, can you try to access my site again? It should work now. Thanks
     
  20. dpdownsouth

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    Perfect! Interesting looking site, btw.
     
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