Brian Cox - Consciouness discussion on Joe Rogan interview

I rather enjoy Donald Hoffman's perspective, but I am waiting for something new he has discovered from his theory.
Since he is an academic, he has to be rather careful what he says. I get the feeling that he treads a very fine line - demonstrating that if evolution by natural selection is true (I don't think it is anymore) then nothing we see - absolutely nothing - even lab equipment - is real. Maybe it is really another argument to ditch Darwin's theory?