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That assertion seems to be an unfounded belief, rather than evidence-based. There is evidence to show the contrary.Soul that commits suicide by dissolving into the "eternal oneness of all" is not immortal. It ceases to exist.
That assertion seems to be an unfounded belief, rather than evidence-based. There is evidence to show the contrary.Soul that commits suicide by dissolving into the "eternal oneness of all" is not immortal. It ceases to exist.
The law of karma is: good actions have good consequences, bad actions have bad consequences.
Soul that commits suicide by dissolving into the "eternal oneness of all" is not immortal. It ceases to exist.
NopeSoul that commits suicide by dissolving into the "eternal oneness of all" is not immortal. It ceases to exist.
Bruce how do you stand on the notion that human civilisation may be cyclical? Graham Hancock and others make compelling arguments for there being a sophisticated culture prior to 10kya. There is compelling evidence for complex and sophisticated tech going back - who knows - 40, 50, 60kya.
Ergo might not much earlier movement been facilitated by competent navigators with well-made craft?
Bruce,
What I have heard about "service to self" (evil) is that it is supposedly a parallel path of soul development that eventually leads to the same end result as "service to others" (good). Is this what you are referring to? If so, what is the evidence upon which you base belief in it?
I am somewhat doubtful that such a path of soul development exists, mainly because it is conspicuously absent from discussions such as the one I have quoted below (ie I cannot find any confirmation of it from sources I believe are reliable). I am not saying evil does not exist, I am saying it is more likely due to ignorance or lack of development. I don't want to suppress any truth but if it is not true it is a particularly harmful falsehood because it could be used to rationalize evil actions.
I think a lot comes down to what we consider to be signatures of high culture or advanced civilization, we don't find much evidence that points to a civilization with the technological advancement we have today (some texts are suggestive it did exist once) but I think Graham Hancock is right that we probably had a 'fairly advanced' civilization existing before the Younger Dryas, maybe equal to how things were a couple of hundred years ago in the 'developed world' nations. We also may have had cultures with very advanced spiritual or psychical attainment but they rejected high tech, it would be hard to identify such evidence from the archaeological records.
That assertion seems to be an unfounded belief, rather than evidence-based. There is evidence to show the contrary.
Keep in mind this is just information that was included in the message, I am not saying people must believe it because I can't provide specific objective evidence. We do know that many people alive today claim to be 'starseeds' or aliens in human bodies and among those are some saying they are reptillians, cat people, greys, Pleiadians and many others. That does mesh precisely with what has been said in this information. The information suggests that the human form/life offers enlightenment potential that does not normally exist for some of the STS entities in this sector of space. This seems to mesh with Tibetan Buddhist claims the human vehicle is the best for making progress and even gods and demons are jealous of us and wish for reincarnation in human forms.
Sam,
The more that I think about consciousness the more I think that we are all (in a Buddhist sense) dreaming this life. All of this is just a projection of our mind. I have no doubt about what you are saying. But it seems that everyone is saying something slightly different and I think that everyone is right in some sense. This life is nothing but Plato's cave allegory.
The evidence shows that the "eternal oneness of all" does not exist. It is merely a religious belief.
If it would be possible to dissolve into some cosmic slime ball, perhaps the soul wouldn't be completely destroyed, but it would still only exist in a vegetative state.
Evidence is found by those who seek it and the kind of evidence that is found is determined by the seeker's wish and desire. If one wishes to find evidence life is nothing but a cosmic accident that manifested within a purely physical potential, then I promise one will be flooded with such evidence. And as one's life moves on and on, prior to their death (or perhaps in a lifetime after), one might get sick and tired of the meaninglessness of it all and then comes that lovely "dark night of the soul" which, if one is fortunate, a shift in their experiences occurs (due to the crack in the door of their previously closed mind) where a miracle or two is un-evadable to their focused attention and suddenly... uh, oh, their world view begins to shift. It doesn't have to go down a path of a religion (which may result in new but different "dark nights"), but might just reveal the fundamental of it all - consciousness. Once one sees that, unless they decide to sell out, they will never touch materialism again.
I know a few former LaVeyian "Satanists" who woke up and if one of them can, anyone can.
Evidence is found by those who seek it and the kind of evidence that is found is determined by the seeker's wish and desire. If one wishes to find evidence life is nothing but a cosmic accident that manifested within a purely physical potential, then I promise one will be flooded with such evidence. And as one's life moves on and on, prior to their death (or perhaps in a lifetime after), one might get sick and tired of the meaninglessness of it all and then comes that lovely "dark night of the soul" which, if one is fortunate, a shift in their experiences occurs (due to the crack in the door of their previously closed mind) where a miracle or two is un-evadable to their focused attention and suddenly... uh, oh, their world view begins to shift. It doesn't have to go down a path of a religion (which may result in new but different "dark nights"), but might just reveal the fundamental of it all - consciousness. Once one sees that, unless they decide to sell out, they will never touch materialism again.
I know a few former LaVeyian "Satanists" who woke up and if one of them can, anyone can.
My own conceptualisation of reincarnation is personalistic. I hold that the mind is not some impersonal or collective category, but the life of a constant, substantial self.
AMNESIA: The universality of reincarnation and the preservation of psychological structure by Titus Rivas, MAThere can be no mind without a self. The self is the ontological substance which is the condition for mental life. This goes for any mind, both animal and human, and even for any possible extraterrestrial and discarnate minds.
Keep in mind this is just information that was included in the message, I am not saying people must believe it because I can't provide specific objective evidence. We do know that many people alive today claim to be 'starseeds' or aliens in human bodies and among those are some saying they are reptillians, cat people, greys, Pleiadians and many others. That does mesh precisely with what has been said in this information. The information suggests that the human form/life offers enlightenment potential that does not normally exist for some of the STS entities in this sector of space. This seems to mesh with Tibetan Buddhist claims the human vehicle is the best for making progress and even gods and demons are jealous of us and wish for reincarnation in human forms.
What I find a little incongruous here is that much of the remainder of the post focusses upon the physical, the DNA, the bloodline, the physical body. Rather more of a physical interest than I would have expected, given the opening statements.And what I have learned is that the UFO community is comprised of two distinct groups, one that is interested in the physical nature of the phenomena and the other that is focussed upon the experiential nature of the phenomena. It is the experiential that I am most interested.
nice one... spiritual judo :)Either you are an immortal soul (that has the option to dissolve if ever you want to into the eternal Oneness of All) or you are not. If you are, why be afraid?