Coronavirus Pandemic

Chester (Sam?) seemed to be articulating some pretty strong reactions to some of the public health pronouncements. It came through to me as something he was pretty sensitive about.


He's saying he doesn't want anyone to do anything to protect him from the virus acknowledging he's at higher risk due to his present health. He further indicates his health conditions are in all/some part due to decisions he's made. The "nobility" (and I was poking some fun there) was his self-sacrifice; his willingness to let the chips fall where they may with COVID so as to not economically impact others.

That help?
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LOL, yes that... explains you.
 
more "PROOF" this was way, way, way overblown...

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-attacks-floridas-coronavirus-response-video/

This is called a panDEMic, right? looks more like a Hail Mary DEMpanic.
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Jesus. If that turns out to be the case... we're gonna be REALLY ANGRY. But, you know we did see this out of China & what they did to their people. I saved the videos that were wiped from YouTube. 100's of them horrible what the Chinese did to their own.

So... we're doing great in Georgia... fingers crossed. I just don't want to make a lot of racket about it because if we look good I'm sure some Democrat would spray us with something.

I was a little worried society would change. Forever. But, as we get back it is becoming a distant memory in our town. The population here: 41,000. oh, just looked at ATL's pop numbers: 500,000.

So (for anyone who doesn't know) GA. (me) is right next to Florida (where this report is from). So, we are in the south. We have more sunshine, might be a reason (?). I know UV kills the virus... could be seasonal (?). But, Georgia has been very cold for this time of year. They say we had only 1 solar flare which means we are going into a mini ice-age.
 
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Jesus. If that turns out to be the case... we're gonna be REALLY ANGRY. But, you know we did see this out of China & what they did to their people. I saved the videos that were wiped from YouTube. 100's of them horrible what the Chinese did to their own.

So... we're doing great in Georgia... fingers crossed. I just don't want to make a lot of racket about it because if we look good I'm sure some Democrat would spray us with something.

I was a little worried society would change. Forever. But, as we get back it is becoming a distant memory in our town. The population here: 41,000. oh, just looked at ATL's pop numbers: 500,000.

So (for anyone who doesn't know) GA. (me) is right next to Florida (where this report is from). So, we are in the south. We have more sunshine, might be a reason (?). I know UV kills the virus... could be seasonal (?). But, Georgia has been very cold for this time of year. They say we had only 1 solar flare which means we are going into a mini ice-age.
Liked because of the telling of the defences that logic affords... not for the "divide-and-conqure" having fallen in line part - having picked either of the supplied sides for confict grouping.

Liked and appreciated though.
 
A Planet Of Heroes

Once upon a time there was a globalized civilization. They had all the benefits of reach to anything made anywhere in their world.
Then there came a scare. An idea. A thing called a virus.

It seemed a right thing to do - to lockdown and keep distant from each other. Most fell in line but also most kept wary - eyes open and looking for whether there was anything to this "falling in line" thing. These most who have learned lessons imposed so often upon them (over come by few) those lessons of failure, those lessons, "to fear".

Starting with the courageous. As they learned more and more, more and more became aware of the play. The play on their consciousness to "be afraid, and comply". Starting with these few, who seen fear is implied.

Voices arose. They got louder. Other voices joined and there was the beginning of an awakening.
The first voices, those first heroes, fell back in the crush of the many who openly opened. Opened their businesses, withstanding arrests, standing tall.
Then there were open demonstrations of opening groups opening their civilization to live again.
Heroes all. Pockets of heroes on the planet.

There could be a next level of hero-ship. One where the latent followers-of-fear get to wake up too. Where their past pressure imposed onto their friends, neighbors and anyone they seen stepping-out-of-line-and-promoting-living: to comply with the implications of fear.

These who awaken - awakened though late. These who find an ownership of their misleadings based from fear. When these throw down their bubbles of pretended care and concern, when these grow to an understanding, when these change to support those who have and forever will favor the honest ways of being together, when these change to helping, when these change to find that experiencing all the beauty and freedoms creation can muster... when at this time... when this has been seen to be so... this is when it will be declared:
"We are a planet of heroes!"


Dedicated to those first voices voicing in din then great silence. Those courageous voices. Thank you.
 
I'm writing from a country (NZ) that actually took their lockdown seriously and eliminated the virus... so how does that fit?
Simple... The NZ situation is unique and only a few other situations were/are similar. NZ is an island and because it acted before cases could arrive, that action has, for now, staved off the virus. NZ will need to remain in permanent lock down to maintain that record. The only exception is if what has never happened before happens... that a vaccine is developed that is extremely safe, that is significantly effective for a SARS type coronavirus virus - again, this has never happened before.

But the vast majority of the world had been exposed to the virus and what has been clearly shown and is more and more (other than much of the empowered "authorities") becoming widely accepted and widely agreed upon and more espoused publicly is:

The virus, to people under age 65 - 65 have a danger ratio equal to the common flu (.1%) or less. Noting that children have a .0001% chance of dying from the virus (look what we are doing to kids stuck at home?! - it's borderline criminal if not outright criminal).

That the older folks should be protected (and protection means not putting them all together in a nursing home but quarantining them and caring for them in a protective manner)

That if you have lived and/or live a lifestyle that increases your risk, that's on you and you are responsible to self-isolate of you have reason to fear the virus.

And that the rest of us do as we have always done with corona viruses... Live normally, refrain from destroying the other 90%ish of the full spectrum of what it means to be alive on Earth today (the other 10%ish being the sustainment of animation of your physical vehicle) and pass the virus around like Sweden and achieve herd immunity!

And mind you, when this virus thing was ramping up in March, David Bailey (if I recall correctly) brought our attention to this via this excellent resource -

https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

So I have a question for malf, have you ever read Brave New World? Have you ever read 1984? Are you familiar with Agenda 21 and the Gates Foundation?

Let me ask malf this - have you ever been robbed or ripped off or scammed? If so, did you learn anything from that? Did you learn how to be a little bit more careful when it comes to matters of that nature? Have you researched about ways you were scammed and thus, learned ways to keep from being so vulnerable?

All my questions relate to COVID-19(84)
 
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I'm convinced there is something about hydroxychloroquine AND chloroquine PLUS ZINC that does help.

Understand the hydroxychloroquine opens the cell to allow the zinc to kill the virus. PAY ATTENTION!
I'm convinced there is something about hydroxychloroquine AND chloroquine PLUS ZINC that does help...

Hi Atlantis, I believe you meant to put azithromycin there... That is the anti-biotic which brings down any bacterial infection ASAP and enures the oxygen intake jumps back up as what all these people are dying from is what emulates hypoxic injury (altitude sickness). This is why ventilators kill - noting 88% of the folks put on a ventilator in New York died!
 
I get this is a hyper-sensitive topic...
I get that you have cultivated a clever technique as to how you present "points" you wish to make. You have allowed yourself to be trained well as many (the vulnerable) would fall for it.

Interesting you reduce the most significant world changing event of the century to "a topic."

but pretending to take some noble high ground here while participating regularly in many other aspects of life rings a tad hollow. Wouldn't you say?
It's all about what you buy into, Silence... Clearly you and I have "bought into" two different views. I wholly grant you that. But I am an ex-bookie. And bookies set odds on potential outcomes. So, as an odds maker, I look at the likely results of what you have bought into and I look at the likely results of what I have bought into.

And it is clear to me that the odds are far higher of a worse outcome for everyone in choosing to buy into what you have bought into than what I have chosen to buy into. And that is the primary basis for my view... which, by the way, is backed by just as much science as yours (the information is all over the place and from well-respected sources - most which have been "silenced" by the controlled, controlling media).

It's that simple.

In honor is Silence...

 
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There may be multiple reasons a "health event" has been so expertly exploited (and which happens to be the HOAX of COVID-19(84).

This Coronavirus Fraud Is Planned Panic and Murder for the Purpose of Advancing Agendas of Control

“We are fast approaching the stage of the ultimate inversion: the stage where the government is free to do anything it pleases, while the citizens may act only by permission; which is the stage of the darkest periods of human history, the stage of rule by brute force.” ~ Ayn Rand — Ayn Rand– Nathaniel Branden, Alan Greenspan, Robert Hessen (1986). “Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal”, p.320, Penguin

It has taken little time for the people in the Unites States to become a comatose society due the fraud called coronavirus. An easier takeover of the minds of Americans could hardly have been imagined. This has been due in large part to mass ignorance that has been bred into the people over many decades. Ignorance will always be evident in the herd, so in order to survive as a free soul, one must open his mind and change his perceptions so that an escape from ignorance is possible. Accomplishment of this freedom requires a belief in only what one can prove, so question everything and believe only in self. Accept love, empathy, caring, joy, humility, kindness, compassion, and truth, and this will lead to a joining with others instead of fear and divisiveness.

At this point, fear is the single common denominator of human action, and that fear has led to chaos and large-scale submission. That is a recipe for tyranny, and this is well known by the engineers of this fake crisis, as they structured this pandemic in a manner to cause global upheaval through isolation and pitting everyone against his neighbor. By doing this, infighting has taken the place of sanity, and instead of questioning the government’s false narrative people are questioning each other. That leaves the real criminals free to continue their plot to restructure society to fit their agenda of total control.

One of the lynchpins in any effort to control large numbers of people is manufactured confusion, as mass confusion does not allow enough time to sort out the truth. What has happened in a period of a few weeks is a tidal wave of confusion and doubt, with the hype from government assuring those already confused masses that rushing to get a vaccine will free all from risk of death. In order to control the panic, government is claiming to be fast tracking an effort to create a vaccine when the vaccine is already available, and has been for some time in my opinion. In fact, any vaccine that is mandated to the public in the near term will be so deadly as to cause the next wave, followed by more waves of sickness and death, all due to the viruses and adjutants injected directly into a populace that has had their immune systems destroyed due to government mandated isolation. In essence, vaccination will enhance death, and will only lead to more control, more isolation, and more false testing, allowing for constant and continuous lockdowns, surveillance, tracing, and imprisonment.

This is so much more than a virus, as any actual virus is minor compared to this response meant to take over society. This is about a technocratic takeover, where most everything is controlled from a central planning grid, where the most advantaged and the elites will have everything they need through automated services while the bulk of society will suffer the consequences of being locked into a controlled and monitored working class environment. The destruction of this current economic system is already far advanced, as the consequences of shutdowns, business closings, food supply destruction, additional sickness, despair, and unemployment will not only harm some, but will be devastating to all in this society other than the very top tier.

In addition, all privacy is gone, movement is monitored and controlled, and future life choices will be based on whether one has complied with government’s mandates of distancing, vaccination, testing, and other mandated orders concerning any and all behavior patterns. Being prodded, probed, injected, and surveilled is now the “new normal,” with threats of state violence should any not adhere to direct orders by central planning authorities claiming the right to rule.

People are being murdered on a daily basis, especially the old and those with immune system weakness, and this is no accident and not due to any virus. Many hospitals are closed, normal medical care and surgery have been eliminated or suspended, many are dying in their homes for fear of going to a hospital, or knowing that they can get no care due the fact that hospitals are refusing to help those in need. Most every patient that does get admitted to a hospital is putting their life at risk, as any diagnosed with Covid means higher pay to the hospital, and when the hospital puts any patient on a ventilator, normally a death sentence, the pay to the hospital is increased by multiple times. This is a travesty.

Other things are happening as this dystopia continues, as the governor of Washington indicated a few days ago that any who do not cooperate with “contact tracers” and that do not allow forced testing, will not be allowed to leave their homes for any reason. Armed military personnel and other private contractors hired by the state are enforcing this invasion of citizens, and these totalitarian measures will soon be nationwide if heavy resistance is not forthcoming.

Our future looks bleak. Our privacy is now a thing of the past, our homes can be invaded at any time by state goons pretending to protect the public, and life is relegated to one that is digital, and void of personal space and normal human interaction. Entertainment has been virtually eliminated, and simple pleasures such as dining out are now akin to a sterile science fiction setting. Travel is almost impossible, and without the ability to move, to gather together, and to laugh and play, life is becoming unlivable.

What has happened to the people of this country? Why is the bulk of society so willing to allow false fear to drive them to slavery? Why have normal people acquiesced to orders from the state; orders that have destroyed their livelihoods, property, and families, and placed them in a position of dependence that is never-ending? Starvation and poverty are knocking at the door of many in this country, but none should allow the government’s evil intentions to ever see the light of day due to this bogus pandemic created for the single purpose of destroying all that is good about humanity in order to create a world of non-human action.

We can take our right to life and freedom, or we can cower in fear and die. [emphasis by Chester]

“There are moments that define a person’s whole life. Moments in which everything they are and everything they may possibly become balance on a single decision. Life and death, hope and despair, victory and failure teeter precariously on the decision made at that moment. These are moments ungoverned by happenstance, untroubled by luck. These are the moments in which a person earns the right to live, or not.”

~ Jonathan Maberry (2012). “Tales of the Rot & Ruin: Rot & Ruin; Dust & Decay; Dead & Gone, a Rot & Ruin story; Flesh & Bone”, p.233, Simon and Schuster
 
Liked because of the telling of the defences that logic affords... not for the "divide-and-conqure" having fallen in line part - having picked either of the supplied sides for confict grouping.

Liked and appreciated though.
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Didn't like because you missed the point. AND, didn't like because your post was stupid. WTF? As Elon would say, "You fool!" Eh, there is no "logic" you tool. Nobody was doing the "divide & conquer" WTH is wrong with you? You always want to pick a fight. Sell your crazy somewhere else. You've been locked up w/your crazy so long, you are starting to actually think you know something.

YOUR song of the day:

PS: you misspelled defenses, conquer & conflict. (tool).
 
To any science minded individual here - take this one seriously if you have not seen this already:

26 minute video

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2020/05/20/plandemic-documentary.aspx
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THANK YOU! I heard of this video but YouTube kept taking it down! I'm going to try to download to add to my sites. They will take down my channel as well I'm sure. It was only a matter of time w/YouTube. Everyone is going to BitChute.

As you probably know Google has captured several "content" suppliers. Listening now, I know about Fauci. *shiver. Do you think he's a psychopath? What about Gates? Both are starting to look really suspicious. Fauci is sketch for sure... sorry to see Gates follow suit.
 
I'm convinced there is something about hydroxychloroquine AND chloroquine PLUS ZINC that does help...

Hi Atlantis, I believe you meant to put azithromycin there... That is the anti-biotic which brings down any bacterial infection ASAP and enures the oxygen intake jumps back up as what all these people are dying from is what emulates hypoxic injury (altitude sickness). This is why ventilators kill - noting 88% of the folks put on a ventilator in New York died!
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I heard azithromycin was a key, but it's zinc also (the body makes zinc/but I'd supplement). I'm just a forensic accountant, so... if I got it I'd probably take all 3, the "Z" & azithromycin & HQ. Yeah, I'd do all 3. A virus isn't a bacteria, but one of them would bring you down if not the other once suppressed. I have azithromycin here. It isn't well known in cat world, but anyone who studied it & knew would use it on any new breeder animal. Vets know this (vets that are also breeders).

I just finished the video (thank you again). Then I went to all the articles that were against her. I wanted to see if she was "full of it" as they all said. Each article didn't show ANY reason she was wrong. They all had something in common, calling anyone who (even) listened were crackpots & "conspiracy" weirdos. I kept reading to find where she was wrong. The things they pointed out had nothing to do with anything. Just screaming headlines.

The only "fact" I found (and I don't know what is right) she said wearing the mask was wrong because you'd breathe in your own COVID, making matters worse. (?) don't know.

I also know to get *cough, INCUBATED is the worst idea in the world. That is common sense. But, a lot of people don't know what that entails. Going "under" for those long periods, inflating the already compromised lungs seems like a bad idea to me. The last step when you know they are going to die anyway; Get that extra $35K sounds good to anyone in the market for the new Tesla. Numbers. Ya gotta love em.
 
I get that you have cultivated a clever technique as to how you present "points" you wish to make. You have allowed yourself to be trained well as many (the vulnerable) would fall for it.

Interesting you reduce the most significant world changing event of the century to "a topic."



It's all about what you buy into, Silence... Clearly you and I have "bought into" two different views. I wholly grant you that. But I am an ex-bookie. And bookies set odds on potential outcomes. So, as an odds maker, I look at the likely results of what you have bought into and I look at the likely results of what I have bought into.

And it is clear to me that the odds are far higher of a worse outcome for everyone in choosing to buy into what you have bought into than what I have chosen to buy into. And that is the primary basis for my view... which, by the way, is backed by just as much science as yours (the information is all over the place and from well-respected sources - most which have been "silenced" by the controlled, controlling media).

It's that simple.

In honor is Silence...

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You had me at "BOOKIE"! LOL, love it. I love the song as well. I wonder if actually most of us are "odds makers". Time to go bike riding!
 
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You had me at "BOOKIE"! LOL, love it. I love the song as well. I wonder if actually most of us are "odds makers". Time to go bike riding!
In these two "zones of being" (as I call them - a.) consensus reality (which I also call "hard physicality") and b.) the immaterial zone of self/not self (which I also call "soft physicality)... we all are weighing choices, considering likely outcomes of those choices, then "betting on one" or never making a bet at all (either because we are afraid or decide we'll let 'God' play this one out... still, as Grant Cameron was striving to get across to Alex is that all this fun stuff boils down to a "buy in" to separation.

And what's got both of them hung up is that they can't see that the actual dilemma is that they haven't discovered that we, as consciousness and as conscious agents arising within that sea of consciousness reach through every zone of being and the key to resolving the dilemma is to see that one's point of view is zone dependent.

And what Grant tried to get across to Alex is that when one "rests" in their core "individuation" that consciously holds to the primary knowledge there is no separation, one can then be free to experience the illusion of separation in all available zones and within the framework(s) of the paradigm(s) we are attracted to (and in some cases, create)... and what Grant attempted to communicate, was that, as that primal conscious agent, "you" (involving all zones within which you reside) create your reality.

Grant said it all boils down to experience. This statement reveals the zones within which Grant's statement was made. And there's one property that exists in each sub zone within the framework Grant was pointing to and that is any zone where "you" perceive yourself as a conscious agent which you can do either keeping in mind you are actually consciousness (a zone beyond) or you can forget that "fact" (or ignore it or argue it isn't true) and this is where all "the fun" begins... sometimes experienced by an individual conscious agent as quite dark and anything but fun.

Apologies this all burst out but its a reaction to the interview I listened to today between Alex and Grant Cameron.

By the way, I scored that match as a draw.
 
I'm convinced there is something about hydroxychloroquine AND chloroquine PLUS ZINC that does help...
Hi Atlantis, I believe you meant to put azithromycin there... That is the anti-biotic which brings down any bacterial infection ASAP and enures the oxygen intake jumps back up as what all these people are dying from is what emulates hypoxic injury (altitude sickness). This is why ventilators kill - noting 88% of the folks put on a ventilator in New York died!
From my post I just quoted - I probably owe you an apology based on what may have been an erroneous perception -

hydroxychloroquine AND chloroquine PLUS ZINC appears to be what is being used as a prophylactic - like for hospital workers for example.

hydroxychloroquine AND azithromycin PLUS ZINC is what is being suggested as the best way to fight the virus especially if it is caught early and this implies the subject has tested positive.

I thought you made an error and yet I just came across the study they are doing now in the UK where they are using hydroxychloroquine AND chloroquine as a prophylactic, thus I likely was in error.

Again, I apologize.

Chester
 
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You had me at "BOOKIE"! LOL, love it. I love the song as well. I wonder if actually most of us are "odds makers". Time to go bike riding!
A FORENSIC ACCOUNTANT! Perfect. Just a year ago I was just about to start working with one to assist in uncovering a suspected massive money laundering scheme involving casinos (me, being a gaming expert) and the "fishy" gaming regulator in a remote jurisdiction not far from Colombia. When the dot connections touched three letter agency involvement, I abandoned ship and left that industry for good.
 
Simple... The NZ situation is unique and only a few other situations were/are similar. NZ is an island and because it acted before cases could arrive, that action has, for now, staved off the virus. NZ will need to remain in permanent lock down to maintain that record. The only exception is if what has never happened before happens... that a vaccine is developed that is extremely safe, that is significantly effective for a SARS type coronavirus virus - again, this has never happened before.

But the vast majority of the world had been exposed to the virus and what has been clearly shown and is more and more (other than much of the empowered "authorities") becoming widely accepted and widely agreed upon and more espoused publicly is:

The virus, to people under age 65 - 65 have a danger ratio equal to the common flu (.1%) or less. Noting that children have a .0001% chance of dying from the virus (look what we are doing to kids stuck at home?! - it's borderline criminal if not outright criminal).

That the older folks should be protected (and protection means not putting them all together in a nursing home but quarantining them and caring for them in a protective manner)

That if you have lived and/or live a lifestyle that increases your risk, that's on you and you are responsible to self-isolate of you have reason to fear the virus.

And that the rest of us do as we have always done with corona viruses... Live normally, refrain from destroying the other 90%ish of the full spectrum of what it means to be alive on Earth today (the other 10%ish being the sustainment of animation of your physical vehicle) and pass the virus around like Sweden and achieve herd immunity!

And mind you, when this virus thing was ramping up in March, David Bailey (if I recall correctly) brought our attention to this via this excellent resource -

https://swprs.org/a-swiss-doctor-on-covid-19/

So I have a question for malf, have you ever read Brave New World? Have you ever read 1984? Are you familiar with Agenda 21 and the Gates Foundation?

Let me ask malf this - have you ever been robbed or ripped off or scammed? If so, did you learn anything from that? Did you learn how to be a little bit more careful when it comes to matters of that nature? Have you researched about ways you were scammed and thus, learned ways to keep from being so vulnerable?

All my questions relate to COVID-19(84)
I was way ahead of you. Check the date:

http://www.skeptiko-forum.com/threads/coronavirus-pandemic.4489/page-2#post-139986
 
A FORENSIC ACCOUNTANT! Perfect. Just a year ago I was just about to start working with one to assist in uncovering a suspected massive money laundering scheme involving casinos (me, being a gaming expert) and the "fishy" gaming regulator in a remote jurisdiction not far from Colombia. When the dot connections touched three letter agency involvement, I abandoned ship and left that industry for good.
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Yep. You got in the fence w/the big dogs. Besides, even when you uncover the "truth" you're dealing w/people who will kill you. It's just business.

Over in your part of town, there is a very large "Psychology" practice. I uncovered a lot of nonsense. The leader fled Texas because they uncovered his kickbacks from a pharma company. He was in charge of mental health in Texas & had all the psychologists prescribing bad drugs. Sad story for many families (or even anyone who cared). Horrid little man.

He went to court, got caught. Funny, Texas just told him it was time to go, that is why he fled to your part of town. Never served a day in jail. He doesn't even have a degree in psychology. NO DEGREE! SMH

Worst yet, we put together, he killed his wife & married her best friend (they did it together I'm sure). I went to get the info for the autopsy. Poor thing was already cremated. Nothing I could do.

BTW, your (great) link to the Plandemic is now... G O N E. Big stamp on it says "Featuring unsupported & Inaccurate Information." It was taken down from all the sites I posted it to also. Gotta love em!
https://healthfeedback.org/plandemi...-false-and-unsupported-claims-about-covid-19/

See, there is no freedom of information. Unless "they" want you to know. Wonder where we can find your video on a website that can't be touched?
 
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