David Icke, Love Not Fear is The Answer |460|

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David Icke, Love Not Fear is The Answer |460|
by Alex Tsakiris | Aug 18 | Consciousness Science
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David Icke was recently banned from Youtube for advocating free thought, free speech and non-violent resistance, but does his science hold?

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[Clip 00:00:00 – 00:00:35] Let them shake their group think heads at you, let them be ashamed of you, embarrassed of you, pissed off at you. They will call you names, and you must let them let them. Let them jeer, let them point, let them laugh. Be resistant to their mockery, be the fodder for their jokes, be a magnificent failure in their eyes. A tiger does not lose sleep over the opinion of sheep. Go ahead. Be the scar tissue of their worldview, their normality. They will loath you. They will fear you. They’ll wish they were you.
That’s David Icke speaking to a huge crowd that gathered to see him at Wembley Arena. That is before he was banned from YouTube and Facebook for advocating non-violence, freedom of speech, free thought and love your neighbor.
Here he is in today’s interview on Skeptiko talking about science and consciousness.
Alex Tsakiris: [00:01:02] You were one of the first people to blow the whistle on this fake scientific understanding of consciousness and its insistence that we are biological robots in a meaningless universe, and we should accept our empty lives and just get on with it.
David Icke: [00:01:20] What you’ve just described is the foundation to mass human control, without which mass human control cannot happen. Because if you know that you are, in your true eye, an expression of consciousness, a point of attention within an infinite flow of consciousness, then there’s no way that a handful of psychopaths and idiots, which is basically the combination that runs the world, can impose themselves on your life, in the way that you will acquiesce to whatever they tell you. You won’t do it because you know you are consciousness, you know you are an infinite expression of consciousness and that will never allow itself to be subjugated and intimidated into submission.
 
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I am going to respond to this - extending it as I read it.

Our last heatwave was in the spring, so I guess that is when you recorded it. That itself is interesting because he was talking from some time back.

I am fairly sure he is right about the virus not being purified. So you have a pot containing virus particles plus all sorts of impurities belonging to the human that was the host, and then you shatter the virus particles and search around for scraps of RNA - which can be viral (it is an RNA virus) or they can be human. Not having a pure pathogen breaks one of Koch's requirements to demonstrate that a virus/bacterium causes a disease. OTH they would say that some viruses are simply very hard to purify. A few viruses, such as Tobacco Mosaic Virus have actually been crystallised.

I am basically in agreement with David - the COVID scare seems somehow contrived for a variety of reasons he is probably going to discuss next.

Yes a lot of people have died of something else, but been recorded as CV-19.

David
 

Alex

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I am going to respond to this - extending it as I read it.

Our last heatwave was in the spring, so I guess that is when you recorded it. That itself is interesting because he was talking from some time back.
recorded last week.

I am fairly sure he is right about the virus not being purified. So you have a pot containing virus particles plus all sorts of impurities belonging to the human that was the host, and then you shatter the virus particles and search around for scraps of RNA - which can be viral (it is an RNA virus) or they can be human. Not having a pure pathogen breaks one of Koch's requirements to demonstrate that a virus/bacterium causes a disease. OTH they would say that some viruses are simply very hard to purify. A few viruses, such as Tobacco Mosaic Virus have actually been crystallised.
thanks for clarifying. Suspect that you're technically correct, but that david and others who would follow this line of reasoning have obscured larger point... and that is that virologist work around this kind of problem on a daily basis. so, it may not be as perfect as we would like it to be but to suggest that the entire thing is contrived is playing into the hands of those who are trying to spin it in circles with the plandemic.

The Pathogenicity of SARS-CoV-2 in hACE2 Transgenic Mice

https://www.immunology.ox.ac.uk/cov...nicity-of-sars-cov-2-in-hace2-transgenic-mice
Transgenic mice expressing hACE2 can be infected with SARS-CoV-2. qRT-PCR detected increased viral load in lung tissue, peaking at 3 days post infection (dpi) and increased serum anti-spike IgG at 21 dpi. Lung histopathology indicates alveolar lesions, pneumonia, collagen deposition and infiltration of CD3+ T cells, CD19+ B cells and MAC2+ macrophages, peaking at 5 dpi. hACE2 and SARS-2-S colocalised on alveolar epithelial cells and viral antigens were detected in alveolar macrophages. This study shows SARS-CoV-2 fulfils Koch’s postulate and presents transgenic ACE2+ mice as a potentially effective in vivo model for SARS-CoV-2 infection.

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and it's not reasonable to assume that all of this work and all of these scientists are part of some orchestrated fakery:

in canada
Research team has isolated the COVID-19 virus - Sunnybrook ...


I study viruses: How our team isolated the new coronavirus to ...

Research team has isolated the COVID-19 virus ...

Coronavirus: Scientists isolate virus responsible for deadly ...

in korea
Identification of Coronavirus Isolated from a Patient in Korea ...



Yes a lot of people have died of something else, but been recorded as CV-19.

David
agreed, but most are probably ding of "covid." my father-in-law just passed. he was in a nursing home and had been sick for a while. all indications are that he developed a really, really bad flu that is highly contagious and leads to bad respiratory problems and high fever... if you know what I mean.

Then again, the only meaningful number is how many more people in his nursing home died this year than last year... and what could we / should we do about it.
 
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agreed, but most are probably ding of "covid." my father-in-law just passed. he was in a nursing home and had been sick for a while. all indications are that he developed a really, really bad flu that is highly contagious and leads to bad respiratory problems and high fever... if you know what I mean.

Then again, the only meaningful number is how many more people in his nursing home died this year than last year... and what could we / should we do about it.
You've probably been smarter than me and avoided the Coronavirus Pandemic thread, but you'll quickly find out that the seemingly reasonable stance you've taken is vehemently denied by many in this community.
 
#5
Alex, you and your show have become important in my life. I can't let you go on believing in germs!

The beliefs you hold, Alex, will result in who, what, and how you conduct your future interviews.

I listen to every new episode, and I usually take notes from which I can do further research.

Given the current situation, with the global lockdown declared by the authorities, I think it's critical to understand whether or not viruses are contagious and infectious, which even obviates the question, has COVID-19 ever been isolated?

It took me a while to wrap my mind around the fact that I had been bamboozled all my life into believing in the germ theory. It is the germ theory that is the basis of modern medical practice and the basis of the pharmaceutical industry.

The germ theory has always been questioned, and it is questioned even more so today, and because of the pandemic declaration, I learned of those who question it, and I am convinced they are correct.

David Icke told you to look at what Dr. Andrew Kaufman has to say on the subject. Here's a video that addresses specifically the article you have up on the screen when challenging Icke about virus purification and isolation.

Dr. Andrew Kaufman Responds To Reuters Fact Check on COVID-19 Vaccine Genetic Modification (mirror)

If you find that YouTube has censored this video, there's a link to the same video on BitChute in this web page.
https://www.activistpost.com/2020/0...ally-modify-us-with-the-covid-19-vaccine.html

You interviewed investigative journalist Jon Rappaport back in 2016. He got his start looking into viruses back in the 80s regarding HIV. Call him up, bring him back, he'll set you straight. He's been blogging about this "Plandemic" hoax the moment it started.

Just read his recent blog post and you'll understand that the virologists are all wrong! (especially Fauci)

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/08/11/does-hiv-exist-explosive-interview/
 
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You've probably been smarter than me and avoided the Coronavirus Pandemic thread, but you'll quickly find out that the seemingly reasonable stance you've taken is vehemently denied by many in this community.
OK - well let's not pursue that here - as you say we have another thread for that! The big problem is that as with so many things the facts around COVID don't fit together very neatly unless you hack away a lot of them, one way or another.

thanks for clarifying. Suspect that you're technically correct, but that david and others who would follow this line of reasoning have obscured larger point... and that is that virologist work around this kind of problem on a daily basis. so, it may not be as perfect as we would like it to be but to suggest that the entire thing is contrived is playing into the hands of those who are trying to spin it in circles with the plandemic.
The problem may be that science has accepted less and less rigour over the years (or "work around this kind of problem on a daily basis." if you prefer) - rather as science has become content with filtering the microwave background to remove the effects of our galaxy (!!) and then scouring the result for minute fluctuations that are supposed to inform us about the exact properties of the big bang.

Remember that Henry Bauer has consistently argued that the HIV virus (another RNA virus) has never been isolated, and that there is no paper that asserts that it is the cause of AIDS. I do see a certain parallel. He has a lot of evidence on his website - mainly in the form of references to the literature.

David
 
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Alex, you and your show have become important in my life. I can't let you go on believing in germs!

The beliefs you hold, Alex, will result in who, what, and how you conduct your future interviews.

I listen to every new episode, and I usually take notes from which I can do further research.

Given the current situation, with the global lockdown declared by the authorities, I think it's critical to understand whether or not viruses are contagious and infectious, which even obviates the question, has COVID-19 ever been isolated?

It took me a while to wrap my mind around the fact that I had been bamboozled all my life into believing in the germ theory. It is the germ theory that is the basis of modern medical practice and the basis of the pharmaceutical industry.

The germ theory has always been questioned, and it is questioned even more so today, and because of the pandemic declaration, I learned of those who question it, and I am convinced they are correct.

David Icke told you to look at what Dr. Andrew Kaufman has to say on the subject. Here's a video that addresses specifically the article you have up on the screen when challenging Icke about virus purification and isolation.

Dr. Andrew Kaufman Responds To Reuters Fact Check on COVID-19 Vaccine Genetic Modification (mirror)

If you find that YouTube has censored this video, there's a link to the same video on BitChute in this web page.
https://www.activistpost.com/2020/0...ally-modify-us-with-the-covid-19-vaccine.html

You interviewed investigative journalist Jon Rappaport back in 2016. He got his start looking into viruses back in the 80s regarding HIV. Call him up, bring him back, he'll set you straight. He's been blogging about this "Plandemic" hoax the moment it started.

Just read his recent blog post and you'll understand that the virologists are all wrong! (especially Fauci)

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/08/11/does-hiv-exist-explosive-interview/
Just pressing a "Like" button doesn't seem to do justice to that splendid contribution! I do hope that everyone listens to the Kaufman video - it is very precise and well linked into the literature - it is also extremely scary.

Can you explain that alternative to germ theory (if you are ready) in a new thread otherwise this thread will become impossibly dense!

David
 
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Just pressing a "Like" button doesn't seem to do justice to that splendid contribution! I do hope that everyone listens to the Kaufman video - it is very precise and well linked into the literature - it is also extremely scary.

Can you explain that alternative to germ theory (if you are ready) in a new thread otherwise this thread will become impossibly dense!

David
Thank you David.

I'll be glad to give it a try, give starting a new thread a try, and give trying to explain the alternative to germ theory.

But briefly, here, the short story is, viruses and bacteria have been blamed for causing illness, when toxins are the real culprit. The worst toxin is EMF! But let's remember DDT, Roundup/glyphosate, lead and mercury and aluminum to name a few of the metals, plastics, and the myriad of other chemical compounds used in industry and agriculture, and, last, but not least, pharmaceuticals, particularly vaccines.

Blaming bacteria and viruses for infections is like blaming the firemen for a fire. They can always be found at the scene, but they didn't cause it, they're just trying to help.

Dr. Andrew Kaufman, Dr. Thomas Cowan, and Authur Firstenberg are the main sources where I learned about it.

Firstenberg's book "The Invisible Rainbow" is essential reading in understanding how bad EMF radiation is.

Then there's the book that helped tremendously to reframe microbes as essential to health, "What Really Makes You Ill?: Why Everything You Thought You Knew About Disease Is Wrong" by Dawn Lester and David Parker.
 
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Thank you David.

I'll be glad to give it a try, give starting a new thread a try, and give trying to explain the alternative to germ theory.

But briefly, here, the short story is, viruses and bacteria have been blamed for causing illness, when toxins are the real culprit. The worst toxin is EMF! But let's remember DDT, Roundup/glyphosate, lead and mercury and aluminum to name a few of the metals, plastics, and the myriad of other chemical compounds used in industry and agriculture, and, last, but not least, pharmaceuticals, particularly vaccines.

Blaming bacteria and viruses for infections is like blaming the firemen for a fire. They can always be found at the scene, but they didn't cause it, they're just trying to help.

Dr. Andrew Kaufman, Dr. Thomas Cowan, and Authur Firstenberg are the main sources where I learned about it.

Firstenberg's book "The Invisible Rainbow" is essential reading in understanding how bad EMF radiation is.

Then there's the book that helped tremendously to reframe microbes as essential to health, "What Really Makes You Ill?: Why Everything You Thought You Knew About Disease Is Wrong" by Dawn Lester and David Parker.
Yet antibiotics and antivirals can be extremely effective at resolving infections.
 
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Id like to bring conversation to "who is in charge" as David Ike sees it, he seems to be getting closer to my unfoulding belief and moving away from the lizard beings.
Firstly about the secret orginisation running the world: any parent with a few kids knows that if you are the evil overlord there is no way you can
persuade your kids to follow in your path, there is allways the chance they just want to smoke pot and surf and not become evil overlords themselves.
The only way I see of a continuity is either some sort of outside spiritual ie non human control or my current belief is us creating egregores and the egregores becoming powerful enough to control us. I guess there could be a human guide of these egregores but it could only be temperary and very loose. Any thoughts?
 
#11
Im sorry I dont want to get into the Covid conversation but its the biggest bucket of shit since buckets of shit were first invented and not worth troubling the brain with.
 

Alex

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Alex, you and your show have become important in my life. I can't let you go on believing in germs!

The beliefs you hold, Alex, will result in who, what, and how you conduct your future interviews.

I listen to every new episode, and I usually take notes from which I can do further research.

Given the current situation, with the global lockdown declared by the authorities, I think it's critical to understand whether or not viruses are contagious and infectious, which even obviates the question, has COVID-19 ever been isolated?

It took me a while to wrap my mind around the fact that I had been bamboozled all my life into believing in the germ theory. It is the germ theory that is the basis of modern medical practice and the basis of the pharmaceutical industry.

The germ theory has always been questioned, and it is questioned even more so today, and because of the pandemic declaration, I learned of those who question it, and I am convinced they are correct.

David Icke told you to look at what Dr. Andrew Kaufman has to say on the subject. Here's a video that addresses specifically the article you have up on the screen when challenging Icke about virus purification and isolation.

Dr. Andrew Kaufman Responds To Reuters Fact Check on COVID-19 Vaccine Genetic Modification (mirror)

If you find that YouTube has censored this video, there's a link to the same video on BitChute in this web page.
https://www.activistpost.com/2020/0...ally-modify-us-with-the-covid-19-vaccine.html

You interviewed investigative journalist Jon Rappaport back in 2016. He got his start looking into viruses back in the 80s regarding HIV. Call him up, bring him back, he'll set you straight. He's been blogging about this "Plandemic" hoax the moment it started.

Just read his recent blog post and you'll understand that the virologists are all wrong! (especially Fauci)

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/08/11/does-hiv-exist-explosive-interview/
thanks for this. all of us who have look into this realize that this can get very deep very quickly... and I'm very resistant to the idea that anyone has wrapped up all the loose ends. . Let me give an example or two here

as david mentioned in the post below henry bauer has done some great work exposing the virus problem with AIDS.
UN says African-American women 20 times more ... - Skeptiko

on the , other hand we have the cia's involvement in weaponizing viruses and vaccines
Dr. Mary's Monkey: How the Unsolved Murder of a Doctor, a ...

we also have all the links that I provided above that could only be explained by a massively orchestrated scientific conspiracy that's way beyond anything we've ever seen.

I'm open to be proven wrong on this but my experience with Skeptiko suggests that scientific conspiracies don't exactly work like this. you can't get large numbers otherwise good, intelligent PhD science types to wake up in the morning, give their spouse a peck on the cheek, pant their kids on the head and then go in and intentionally perpetrate a massive fraud in the lab.

I think the autism vaccine link is a better example of how this stuff works. i.e. you have a bunch of well-meaning researchers who do the work and then you have a bureaucrat who comes in at the end and says we have to destroy all the data because don't want this result to get out. but this scenario is vastly different than orchestrating a worldwide rigging of the initial experiments / science.
CDC Scientist: 'We scheduled meeting to destroy vaccine-autism ...
 
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Alex

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Alex, you and your show have become important in my life. I can't let you go on believing in germs!

The beliefs you hold, Alex, will result in who, what, and how you conduct your future interviews.

I listen to every new episode, and I usually take notes from which I can do further research.

Given the current situation, with the global lockdown declared by the authorities, I think it's critical to understand whether or not viruses are contagious and infectious, which even obviates the question, has COVID-19 ever been isolated?

It took me a while to wrap my mind around the fact that I had been bamboozled all my life into believing in the germ theory. It is the germ theory that is the basis of modern medical practice and the basis of the pharmaceutical industry.

The germ theory has always been questioned, and it is questioned even more so today, and because of the pandemic declaration, I learned of those who question it, and I am convinced they are correct.

David Icke told you to look at what Dr. Andrew Kaufman has to say on the subject. Here's a video that addresses specifically the article you have up on the screen when challenging Icke about virus purification and isolation.

Dr. Andrew Kaufman Responds To Reuters Fact Check on COVID-19 Vaccine Genetic Modification (mirror)

If you find that YouTube has censored this video, there's a link to the same video on BitChute in this web page.
https://www.activistpost.com/2020/0...ally-modify-us-with-the-covid-19-vaccine.html

You interviewed investigative journalist Jon Rappaport back in 2016. He got his start looking into viruses back in the 80s regarding HIV. Call him up, bring him back, he'll set you straight. He's been blogging about this "Plandemic" hoax the moment it started.

Just read his recent blog post and you'll understand that the virologists are all wrong! (especially Fauci)

https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/08/11/does-hiv-exist-explosive-interview/
by the way I'd be happy to have kaufman on if anyone would care to make the initial approach
 
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David went on to talk about resisting the COVID mask rules in shops, and I have to say that so far I have avoided wearing a mask in shops except for a couple of small shops that were being run by people in masks. In supermarkets there ar ea few like-minded individuals, and everyone is polite and nothing is said, though in theory I'd face a £100 fine in a policeman caught me!

The rules don't require shop workers or owners to weak masks - just customers! I think I felt I didn't want to upset the worker wearing the mask because they must be afraid to do so - but maybe WETIKO got the better of me! I wish everyone who has seen through the mask issue does the same. BTW, cafes and pubs are exempt from the rule!

The incredible truth is that when people were falling ill and dying from whatever it was, we were told that masks were unnecessary. Now, when essentially nobody is falling ill, we are ordered to wear them!

David
 
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These are all very general ideas that relate to idea that covid has never been isolated, purified, transmitted, or proven to show similar symptoms.

-Bacteria and viruses cause disease.
This seems to be very difficult to prove. Maybe only Rife could have proven this correct, but modern scientists seem to have issues. The ruling in favor of a doctor in Germany who claimed that measles was not caused by a virus is a good example. https://www.preventdisease.com/news...sles-Isnt-Virus-Wins-Supreme-Court-Case.shtml
The human body is full of bacteria and fungi and disease seems to occur not because of them, but because of the body's inability to properly regulate them. It's been suggested that the failure to regulate traces back to toxin exposure.

-Viruses are natural genetic updates.
When organisms are exposed to a environmental stressors (toxins, emf/emr), the organism attempts to adapt to the new environment through genetic alterations or epigenetic expressions . All living things are apparently releasing multitudes of virus particles and one of the reasons why is to spread that genetic update for better survival. For some people with additional health conditions, the integration of certain viruses cause symptoms.
Search for Zach Bush and most especially his interview on London Real. He also points out that the symptoms of covid look a lot like cyanide poisoning, and given that the outbreak hotspots are in places with poor air quality, it could be argued that cyanide molecules are piggybacking on the covid particles and causing all the respiratory issues.

-Diseases and viruses are primarily due to toxin and chemical exposure.
There are many books by many different doctors which claim this theory with evidence. The body is exposed to a toxin (heavy metals, chemicals, etc) then fails to operate optimally as most toxins linger in the body for years, if not the lifetime of the person. Once toxins are removed from the body and the cells, normal function resumes.
Books by Tom Cowan are a good place to start.. https://drtomcowan.com/
If you have more time then read...
https://whatreallymakesyouill.com/

This is too much already, but here's more to think about....

-Supposed infectious diseases or illnesses are the body's sympathetic response to seeing someone else sick. Works like how you yawn when you watch someone else yawn, except instead of a yawn it initiates are purging of toxins or impurities from the body (removed through mucus, stool, puss, etc).

-Viruses are demonically engineered egregores. A guy named Phoenix Aurelius utilizes IDF analysis very regularly and through some questioning it was suggested that viruses are very similar to how David Icke described them to be.
 

Alex

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#18
These are all very general ideas that relate to idea that covid has never been isolated, purified, transmitted, or proven to show similar symptoms.

-Bacteria and viruses cause disease.
This seems to be very difficult to prove. Maybe only Rife could have proven this correct, but modern scientists seem to have issues. The ruling in favor of a doctor in Germany who claimed that measles was not caused by a virus is a good example. https://www.preventdisease.com/news...sles-Isnt-Virus-Wins-Supreme-Court-Case.shtml
The human body is full of bacteria and fungi and disease seems to occur not because of them, but because of the body's inability to properly regulate them. It's been suggested that the failure to regulate traces back to toxin exposure.

-Viruses are natural genetic updates.
When organisms are exposed to a environmental stressors (toxins, emf/emr), the organism attempts to adapt to the new environment through genetic alterations or epigenetic expressions . All living things are apparently releasing multitudes of virus particles and one of the reasons why is to spread that genetic update for better survival. For some people with additional health conditions, the integration of certain viruses cause symptoms.
Search for Zach Bush and most especially his interview on London Real. He also points out that the symptoms of covid look a lot like cyanide poisoning, and given that the outbreak hotspots are in places with poor air quality, it could be argued that cyanide molecules are piggybacking on the covid particles and causing all the respiratory issues.

-Diseases and viruses are primarily due to toxin and chemical exposure.
There are many books by many different doctors which claim this theory with evidence. The body is exposed to a toxin (heavy metals, chemicals, etc) then fails to operate optimally as most toxins linger in the body for years, if not the lifetime of the person. Once toxins are removed from the body and the cells, normal function resumes.
Books by Tom Cowan are a good place to start.. https://drtomcowan.com/
If you have more time then read...
https://whatreallymakesyouill.com/

This is too much already, but here's more to think about....

-Supposed infectious diseases or illnesses are the body's sympathetic response to seeing someone else sick. Works like how you yawn when you watch someone else yawn, except instead of a yawn it initiates are purging of toxins or impurities from the body (removed through mucus, stool, puss, etc).

-Viruses are demonically engineered egregores. A guy named Phoenix Aurelius utilizes IDF analysis very regularly and through some questioning it was suggested that viruses are very similar to how David Icke described them to be.
thanks for this. I keep hearing bits and pieces of this but I haven't heard anyone pull together all the loose ends. here's another one that is referenced in (and elsewhere)
Me & Lee: How I Came to Know, Love and Lose Lee Harvey ...

Alton Ochsner, a professor of surgery at Tulane Medical School and founder of the Ochsner Clinic in New Orleans, gave the vaccine to his grandson Eugene Davis, Offit wrote. The child died May 4.

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so this requires some level three thinking but bear with me for a minute... Ochsner is the super famous doctor that judy worked under. there are a bunch of hospitals and clinics in new orleans with his name all over them. I don't imagine that he planned on killing his grandson and severely injuring his other grandson when he made a public spectacle of demonstrating how safe vaccines were by injecting them into his grandchildren. I think it speaks to how convinced he was they we're real / effective.

keep in mind this guy is someone who later becomes a CIA operative in the weaponizing of these vaccines and viruses... and the testing of that weaponization among hospitalized prisoners. judith details in her book along with her witnessing that some patients developed and died from within a matter of days. a horrible history she regrets being a part of. so let's just play along for a minute and assume that that is true. I think this then becomes an interesting data point in terms of what is possible to be done with the weaponization of vaccines and viruses. so keep in mind that this was at least 60 ys ago so we can assume some progress has been made.

I find it difficult to overlay this hidden but probably true reality with the claim that there is no such thing as a virus that can cause the kind of health issues we've seen with covid-19. I'm not saying I've connected all the dots... but I don't think kaufman has either.

someone ought to get kaufman on skeptiko
 
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I find it difficult to overlay this hidden but probably true reality with the claim that there is no such thing as a virus that can cause the kind of health issues we've seen with covid-19. I'm not saying I've connected all the dots... but I don't think kaufman has either.
I'm not sure you need to go that far, if you go and look at the deaths from flu last winter, I think you will find they ar eway down - because people dying of flu were recoded of dying of COVID. This could have been:

A) Because doctors were told/requested to record deaths as COVID wherever possible because there was a premium for dealing with such cases!

B) Because people came in with a bad flu infection, but were tested for COVID and either B1 some COVID viruses were found in their noses but may never have progressed to create disease, or B2 the test threw out a false positive!

Above all, Kaufman has connected a lot of dots explaining a possible motive behind all this.

David
 
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Id like to bring conversation to "who is in charge" as David Ike sees it, he seems to be getting closer to my unfoulding belief and moving away from the lizard beings.
Firstly about the secret orginisation running the world: any parent with a few kids knows that if you are the evil overlord there is no way you can
persuade your kids to follow in your path, there is allways the chance they just want to smoke pot and surf and not become evil overlords themselves.
The only way I see of a continuity is either some sort of outside spiritual ie non human control or my current belief is us creating egregores and the egregores becoming powerful enough to control us. I guess there could be a human guide of these egregores but it could only be temperary and very loose. Any thoughts?
He gave a hint when Alex asked him about S..F...evil and he seemed to say the global culture has itself had that cult imposed on it. Who imposed it?

I stopped paying attention to Icke when he was pushing the lizard beings as overlords. I did know he was modifying that but again, paid no attention. I would be sooo grateful if someone could give me the history--did he give up the reptilian overlord claim and if so when?

BTW IMO the Levy book on Wetiko is a waste of money. He uses the word--with no real explanatory content in it---again and again and again. and again!
 
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