Deathbed Visions

jerbear_13

We behold what we are, and we are what we behold
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Hello all,

Not sure if this is the right category for this discussion but I’ve recently come across something that I find fascinating. There has been a rather large uptick in discussions within the Hospice community around nurses and their patients having deathbed visions. I’ve listened to a few talks, books and interviews on the subject and have personally chalked up these visits from loved ones as hallucinations. Now however, I feel differently. Nurses in hospice have described in great detail why these experiences are so much more than hallucinations. Ultimately, they classify hallucinations as strange, confusing and fear provoking. They describe visitors from dead loved ones as visions. One well versed in the materialistic view could see how this could easily be dismissed but when you listen to the stories and documented accounts, it leaves you wondering. Often, these visions come when the patient is very lucid and aware (they do also come when the invidividual is not). Nurses have even begun to use these visions as a measurement of time on someone’s life. Visions and “visits” from passed on loved ones begin to indicate that the person is within days of dying. Anyways, I wanted to get your guys’ take on all of this. Is anyone familiar with what I’m talkig about? Not quite NDE’s but in the same ballpark. I can post links if needed.
 
#3
Hello all,

Not sure if this is the right category for this discussion but I’ve recently come across something that I find fascinating. There has been a rather large uptick in discussions within the Hospice community around nurses and their patients having deathbed visions. I’ve listened to a few talks, books and interviews on the subject and have personally chalked up these visits from loved ones as hallucinations. Now however, I feel differently. Nurses in hospice have described in great detail why these experiences are so much more than hallucinations. Ultimately, they classify hallucinations as strange, confusing and fear provoking. They describe visitors from dead loved ones as visions. One well versed in the materialistic view could see how this could easily be dismissed but when you listen to the stories and documented accounts, it leaves you wondering. Often, these visions come when the patient is very lucid and aware (they do also come when the invidividual is not). Nurses have even begun to use these visions as a measurement of time on someone’s life. Visions and “visits” from passed on loved ones begin to indicate that the person is within days of dying. Anyways, I wanted to get your guys’ take on all of this. Is anyone familiar with what I’m talkig about? Not quite NDE’s but in the same ballpark. I can post links if needed.
I don’t think for a moment that these are hallucinations. They match NDEs in many ways, and they very often see dead loved ones, not living loved ones, dead loved ones. Not the 57 Chevy that they love more than life. Dead relatives. That tells me a lot right there. Like NDEs, these visions are too profound, clear, meaningful; and consistent to be mere hallucinations. This only fits the materialistic view if you are a pre-notioned materialist. The people who research NDEs and deathbed visions etc and actually TALK to the people, as you said, end up believers generally. It’s the “armchair” researchers who never meet or talk with these people who exclaim “hallucination!” The people who take care of these people, have the experiences themselves, and talk to these people personally, tend to know the truth. Much of the time the caretakers experience things themselves during these episodes.
 
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