Dr. Diana Walsh Pasulka, American Cosmic’s Breakaway Civilization |417|

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FYI, a minute or two of googling the identity of "Tyler" and it seems pretty obvious he is one Timothy E Taylor.
You can see his name next to Pasulka's in the Vatican Annual report here:
http://www.vaticanobservatory.va/content/dam/specolavaticana/documenti/Download_AR2017/AR2017.pdf

And here's another book about him with description matching Diana's:
https://www.bizjournals.com/birmingham/stories/2003/06/30/smallb4.html
https://www.amazon.com/Launch-Fever-Timothy-Taylor-ebook/dp/B0052VU9XA

And Pasulka on page 182 and 183, Chapter 15, "The Spectrum of Human Techno-Hybridity: The total Recall Effect" from the book "Human, Transhuman, Posthuman"
https://www.academia.edu/34657518/The_Spectrum_of_Human_Techno-_Hybridity_The_Total_Recall_Effect
describes Timothy Taylor and his accomplishments with Biologics.

I can't find his picture anywhere though...
 
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I've always been skeptical of the "breakaway civilization" for a lot of the reasons you've mentioned, but all that changes if we believe american cosmic... I mean, it completely changes!

if Tyler really did show her how to harvest pieces of a 1940s crashed UFO in the new mexico then we have to accept that our very best brightest scientists and engineers have been working with these (and many other) advanced technologies for at least that long. given that Tyler has used the technologies on multiple patents and in high tech businesses we can only imagine how far the black budget projects have gone.
I haven't finished yet, but...

I don't see how what I've heard so far changes that. I'm still leaning towards the idea that they've spent the last 70-80 years feverishly working away in compartments on trying to reverse engineer this stuff and have been thus far unable to do so and are convinced the Russians and Chinese can't do it either, so there's now no need for the secrecy... let's open this up to the crowd to speed innovation (and usher in the new techno-topia religion).
 

Alex

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Afraid of the cross is going to the fair on 4th of july all the time amazing you always find the stuff
Yes - just a quick example from my experience. The technology required to create an inter-metallic Roswell-styled piece of material, just the exotic materials which would ostensibly coat a high-dynamic environment component skin, would need to be as nano-thin layered as a PVD deposition layer, flexible as aluminum, as light as titanium, as integrally strong as a tungsten-boride interstitial alloy, macro-structure hard (Mohs 9 or 10) and as micro/nano-surface hard/impervious as diamond (4000 Knoop or higher).

The engineering team who enables this stack - literally has to solve a stack of problems themselves in order to resolve the technology for use - Inevitably they would ask an endless chain of "Ladies and Gents, we need a device/innovation which can do ________________" - this question is asked about 16 times downward in stack. The answers to these question then broach the security envelope inside of which they are protected (per Eric's excellent response).

The staff required to manufacture, deploy, keep secret and apply this tech - is on the order of 3,000 persons. Then a couple hundred people are required to watch them.

These lower down "need a device' solutions and the watchers of the workers that have broached the security envelope, these solutions bleed out into the associated industries - these then are called the 'Footprint' of that advanced technology. Think of how the Apollo Program impacted hundreds of our technologies.

An intelligence agent then surveys the market for signature of such a footprint. Analogous to the heat wake of a submarine or the jet exhaust of a spy plane. This is how we determine the validation as to the existence of an advanced tech.
great. I'm really glad you added this level of detail... very useful.

But :) I'm suggesting that Diana's account directly and completely contradicts this. again, for me it's a burden of proof level paradigm shift.

I'm not looking for Diana to fully document example after example of super advanced reverse-engineered technology. it's more a matter of whether or not we are now willing to accept the numerous accounts we've heard over the years of this breakaway civilization secret space program ( I'm using those terms in the broadest sense... not tied to any one particular persons definition). Diana's book is huge personal tipping point. Unless she's faking :) that last smiley is optional :)
 
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But :) I'm suggesting that Diana's account directly and completely contradicts this. again, for me it's a burden of proof level paradigm shift.
Good! I always love arguments which bring the deductive/probative merit. I will have to get Diana's book then.

What you describe is called 'Plurality' (from Ockham's Razor)- the point at which there is no longer one single 'probable' nor 'reasonable' explanation - the point at which a skeptic can no longer dismiss a contention by means of skepticism alone. It is a shift in the burden of proof.
 

Alex

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FYI, a minute or two of googling the identity of "Tyler" and it seems pretty obvious he is one Timothy E Taylor.
You can see his name next to Pasulka's in the Vatican Annual report here:
http://www.vaticanobservatory.va/content/dam/specolavaticana/documenti/Download_AR2017/AR2017.pdf

And here's another book about him with description matching Diana's:
https://www.bizjournals.com/birmingham/stories/2003/06/30/smallb4.html
https://www.amazon.com/Launch-Fever-Timothy-Taylor-ebook/dp/B0052VU9XA

And Pasulka on page 182 and 183, Chapter 15, "The Spectrum of Human Techno-Hybridity: The total Recall Effect" from the book "Human, Transhuman, Posthuman"
https://www.academia.edu/34657518/The_Spectrum_of_Human_Techno-_Hybridity_The_Total_Recall_Effect
describes Timothy Taylor and his accomplishments with Biologics.

I can't find his picture anywhere though...
nice :)
 

Alex

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Good! I always love arguments which bring the deductive/probative merit. I will have to get Diana's book then.

What you describe is called 'Plurality' (from Ockham's Razor)- the point at which there is no longer one single 'probable' nor 'reasonable' explanation - the point at which a skeptic can no longer dismiss a contention by means of skepticism alone. It is a shift in the burden of proof.
so nicely put :) let's do a search and replace throughout the internet " extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof" to " there is a point at which there is no longer one single probable explanation"
 

Alex

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I haven't finished yet, but...

I don't see how what I've heard so far changes that. I'm still leaning towards the idea that they've spent the last 70-80 years feverishly working away in compartments on trying to reverse engineer this stuff and have been thus far unable to do so and are convinced the Russians and Chinese can't do it either, so there's now no need for the secrecy... let's open this up to the crowd to speed innovation (and usher in the new techno-topia religion).
let me put it another way... take the first four episodes of season 1 of hangar 1 https://www.history.com/shows/hangar-1-the-ufo-files

what if we were now willing to accept what they're reporting as factual instead of speculation?
 
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On the note of "No matter how people access it - NDE, DMT, UFO, etc - they all end up going to the same place". I'm with Alex's clear sarcasm and Diana's response.

In my experience, psychedelics and OBEs are not the same/do not go to the same place and neither seem the same as UFOs or NDEs (though I have never experienced either of the latter two).

Saying they are the same because they can result in a healing or veridical ESP or PTSD etc is confusing side effects for the actual phenomena.

IMO, the similarity is in that any of those experiences results when the habitual focus of awareness is knocked off balance or deemphasized. That is the key to having these experiences; diminishing the ego (which tells you what's what all day/every day with its running internal dialogoue - Thus, the normal sense of self (the "ego") is disrupted. You are, literally, not yourself during these experiences. Hence, new aspects of your being, and therefore new perceptions, can occur. ESP/Psi, spiritual healing, etc. are all natural aspects of our being, IMO. I think that has even proven "scientifically". It is expected that when the modern ego's self-sustaining self-dialogue, forged and rooted in modern materialism, relinquishes its control, then aspects of our being that were repressed/ignored by that ego come to the forefront.

Mind you, this is not about thinking differently. This is actually about being differently. When you are on psychedelics, you recognize that you are not yourself. When you are in dreams, you are not yourself. Ditto OBEs - and, based on what I've read, ditto NDEs and UFOs. In fact, thinking is not the main perceptual functionality that is engaged. "Sensing" and "feeling" and "intuiting" and "knowing" are primary. You cannot think your way in or out of these states of mind. Changing your thinking changes nothing because you are still thinking.

That said, there are so many perceptual potentials available to humans and so many energy bands to be perceived in the wider universe, different people (souls) with their innate predilections, experiencing different degrees of ego diminishment and possessing different degrees of personal energy level, will end up tuning in to different bands of the available external perceptual potentials. This is true for those falling within an experience type (type = NDE, etc) and across experience types (NDEs. UFO, OBEs, Drugs, etc).
 
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let me put it another way... take the first four episodes of season 1 of hangar 1 https://www.history.com/shows/hangar-1-the-ufo-files

what if we were now willing to accept what they're reporting as factual instead of speculation?
I haven't watched (frankly I'm spoiled by the rich content of podcasts and can't stand the over-dramatized TV programs), but just looking at the synopsis of the episodes: I accept as factual that presidents have had encounters, there are DUMBs sprinkled all over the planet, and that we have made technological advancements partly inspired by the study of UFO artifacts.

I even think it is likely that we've got some people piloting some of these recovered craft. For all we know, there might be a lot more than 9 recovered craft... what if they found thousands of spaceworthy craft in Antarctica buried under the ice? <enter: SPACE FORCE - stage left>

I don't currently believe (am open to be convinced otherwise) that the breakaway elites and their compartmentalized scientists have been able to fully reverse engineer the craft and reproduce from scratch. I think they're stumped. This is not to say that their efforts have been in vain... I would imagine much of their research has sparked parallel private sector tech advancements that have made their way into iPhones and such.

But gravity propulsion, warp drives, and their power sources: those things I seriously doubt we have reverse engineered to the extent that we can reproduce and weaponize. If we had done so I don't think the CIA would still be engaged in excessive hand-wringing about Russia and China right now... why dilly dally with narrative control when swift kinetic action from faster than light jammers/bombers can disable the enemy as if by magic? (like when our own missile silos were sent offline)

I think that the CIA et al would like for Russia, China, and internal dissidents to have FUD about the possible fact that we MIGHT be reproducing and weaponizing this tech, so the breakaway civilization proponents (such as Dark Journalist and Fitts) are perhaps unwittingly aiding in this potential psyop propganada effort... although this doesn't mean their research is invalid or useless. I listen to them for another perspective, but I think the gap in knowledge about the secret programs perhaps leads us to imagine they are further along than they really are, and TPTB are happy to let us believe this.
 
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Insects, in a hive or colony, behave as you suggest. Science says they act in concert due to chemical releases. Maybe there is psi involved. Doesn't matter. They act in concert to accomplish remarkable achievements, given their physical size and limitations, without tech. Perhaps the human mind interprets an alien life form - the workers/drones/slaves(?) - as insect-like because of this ability they possess. Perhaps these aliens that we interpret as insectoids receive commands, via psi, from higher intelligence leaders.
That reminds me of an experiment that Rupert Sheldrake reported (tough someone else did it). Someone observed that if you partially dmaged a termite nest, the creatures would rebuild it almost exactly as before - even though the shape was fairly irregular.

He then damaged a termite nest as before, and drove a large metal plate vertically down through the structure, so that there were termites on both sides rebuilding, but there couldn't really be any communication between the two groups. Remarkably, the two halves matched very accurately each side of the metal plate.

David
 
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morvern_c,

Thanks for the link. I haven't read the book (and don't intend to). So I can't say if it is a good review, but I did like this quote, assuming it accurately represents what she says:

"After describing this remarkable turn of events, Pasulka emphasizes what constitutes a true religion: “One cannot put an angel under a microscope,” she says. One wonders why not, if they are ETs. Isn’t that partly what her book—via people like Mitchell and Tyler—is proposing: a materialistic basis for the divine? She continues: “It is this aspect, the mysterious sacred, that distinguishes religion from other organized practices like sports or fandoms. In religion, one finds the inexplicable, sacred event, or a mysterious artifact.”

This would seem to be a damaging observation after she spends so much time explaining that UFOs are real and that "break away" civilizations (a new term for me!) are retro engineering actual alien spacecraft.

Make up your mind!

I do know that Pasulka says she and "Tyler" recovered some metal from an alleged crash in NM and took it to a lab, where experts determined the metal to not be of terrestrial origin. So that's not a spiritual angel being put under a microscope. It's nuts and bolts.

But I don't believe the story - where is this unearthly metal? Why is it with all the UFO "researchers" that they can never produce the physical evidence they claim exists? Why do we not have an example of one of the "implants" from abductees? I mean how challenging would it be to take someone who claims to have had an implant placed in his/her body to a medical facility, have some imaging done, identify the implant, remove it and have a look at it? Why don't we have the metal fragments from flying saucers that some researchers claim they have found and had verified by a lab?

For that matter, why haven't the G-men in black come and taken the implants and metal frags to be used in their secret break away civilizations located in Middle Earth at North Pole; perhaps killing or erasing the memories of the abductees and researchers? I thought that's what they do.

Eric's Razor says if a story is too convoluted, self-contradictory, replete with magical explanations to fill in gaps, requires humans to act in ways that humans normally don't, resembles fairy tales or things seen in movies in important ways, is told by retired cops or soldiers; especially those that drink a lot, then it's bunk - and you should stop wasting energy and time trying to understand it.

The Navy UFO sightings and evidence are far more interesting, credible and worth looking into.
 
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But I don't believe the story - where is this unearthly metal?
Right here:

Or for the transcript of Puthoff's speech:
https://paradigmresearchgroup.org/2...se-irva-conference-las-vegas-nv-15-june-2018/
So let me give you an example of, how this stuff helps people who are chasing these really difficult problems. I’m choosing one here: metamaterials for aerospace use. I’d love to talk about really fancy materials, but they’re classified. However, there’s a lot of materials that have been picked up or provided even in the public domain. I’m going to give an example because it shows exactly what the structure is for how to deal with this. This is an open source sample. It was sent anonymously to talk show host Art Bell. The fellow claimed to be in the military. He said that this sample was picked up in a crash retrieval, and so he sent it by mail. So what does that mean? Chain of custody non-existent. Provenance questionable. Could be a hoax. Could be some slag off of some foundry floor or whatever. However, it was an unusual sample, so we decided to take a look at it.

It was a multilayered bismuth and magnesium sample. Bismuth layers less than a human hair. Magnesium samples about ten-times the size of a human hair. Supposedly picked up in the crash retrieval of an Advanced Aerospace Vehicle. It looks like it’s been in a crash. The white lines are the bismuth; the darker areas are the magnesium separations. So the question was what about this material, so naturally we looked in all the national labs, we talked to metallurgists, we combed the entire structure of published papers. Nowhere could we find any evidence that anybody ever made one of these.

Secondly, some attempts were made to try to reproduce this material, but they couldn’t get the bismuth and magnesium layers to bond.

Thirdly, when we talked to people in the materials field who should know, they said we don’t know why anybody would want to make anything like this. It’s not obvious that it has any function.

Well, years later, decades later actually, finally our own science moves along. We move into an area called metamaterials, and it turns out exactly this combination of materials at exactly those dimensions turn out to be an excellent microscopic waveguide for very high frequency electromagnetic radiation terahertz frequencies. So, the wavelength is 60 microns, which is a pretty small size. But it turns out because of the metamaterial aspect of this material, those bismuth layers that act as waveguides can be one twentieth the size of the wavelength, and usually when you make a waveguide it’s gotta be about the size of the wavelength. So, in fact this turned out to be a material that would propagate sub-wavelength waveguide effects. Why somebody wants to do that we still don’t know the answer to that.

But anyway, it’s amazing we’ve gone through this and this is the kind of structure we go through a lot. You get a material sample with unusual characteristics to be evaluated, the method of manufacture is difficult to assess or reproduce, the purpose of the function is not readily apparent – as with our sample here, and then as our own technical knowledge moves forward we finally see a possible purpose or function comes to light. That sequence is repeated over and over in this particular area.
 
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Hurmenetar,
A few points;
1. Puthoff's public lecture/video defies the idea that the "CIA" is keeping the whole thing secret for use by break away civilizations. . Notice he also says what I've been trying to tell you guys; that the intel teams are so compartmentalized that a conspiracy on a massive scale is virtually impossible. The conspiracy theory breaks down. The video is worth listening to for that alone, though I'm sure it won't make a dent in the minds of those given to wild paranoia tinged imaginations.

2. Puthoff merely presents what he says is allegedly a piece of metal from a UFO crash. He briefly goes on to say that the metal experts he was aware of didn't know how it could be made or what it could be good for. That doesn't mean that no one on earth knew how to make it at the time. In fact, apparently we can make it now. We don't know the real origin of the sample. We would need more opinions, replication, etc related to the metal.

3."We move into an area called metamaterials, and it turns out exactly this combination of materials at exactly those dimensions turn out to be an excellent microscopic waveguide for very high frequency electromagnetic radiation terahertz frequencies. So, the wavelength is 60 microns, which is a pretty small size. But it turns out because of the metamaterial aspect of this material, those bismuth layers that act as waveguides can be one twentieth the size of the wavelength, and usually when you make a waveguide it’s gotta be about the size of the wavelength. So, in fact this turned out to be a material that would propagate sub-wavelength waveguide effects. Why somebody wants to do that we still don’t know the answer to that." - it is pure conjecture that someone purposefully built the material to have these capabilities. It could just be an accident of nature. If you have that material, it has those wavelengths. There's no proof it was engineered that way. I picked up this from somewhere on the internet re; Puthoff's metal scrap - "waveguide structure he seems to refer to the work of Viktor A. Podolskiy and others from 2004 and 2005, so actually less than a decade after they got their samples (and there's probably earlier research than those two articles). There's little to support his conclusions their piece of scrap could similarly function as a waveguide, which seems to require proper structuring. And even such waveguide simply means a structure that allows electromagnetic waves of some frequencies to pass through, not some crazy levitation that Tom DeLonge has been implying."

5. Note that Puthoff says that the wavelength feature of the scrap was discovered after "our science catches up" - he's already assumed the scrap is alien engineered. He's planting in your head the preconceived notion he has in his own. He's a true believer and that is not a good thing in an area of study where there is scant and ambiguous evidence. True believers will always try to make any evidence fit their accepted and favored paradigm. Watch out!

4. After rapidly concluding with a few statements re item 3, Puthoff goes off on all kinds of imaginings, theories and fun facts about physics - but none of that is relevant to the provenance of the piece of metal. It's all window dressing and smoke and mirrors.

I do think there is something to UFOs. The military has released a lot of good evidence that strongly suggests there's something going on in the skies. I don't have to give credence to every borderline personality disorder that sticks something under their skin and calls it an implant for attention seeking purposes, not every schizophrenic that hears alien voices in his head; nor the unscrupulous podiatrists that give them the attention they seek. Nor do I have to believe that there are people living in underground (literally) societies at the North Pole and communicating with aliens and flying retro-engineered UFOs, or any of that crap. I think a lot of people are making money selling marginal junk to gullible people.

When it comes to psi, life after death, consciousness /= brain, we have lots of good evidence of various types; quantum leaps beyond a little scrap of metal of uncertain provenance, no public testing records, no replication of testing and no ability to examine further and the word of one man who is clearly a true believer.

When I say I want to see an implant or a piece of wreckage, I mean I want to see it in an independent study with many experts reviewing the protocols and results. With implants, that should be a piece of cake given how many people claim to be walking around with them - and I don't mean some shady podiatrist cum alien implant surgical removal expert that won't allow the evidence to be reviewed. I mean, lets get a panel of objective ethical skeptics to have a look at it, publicly. I'm willing to bet there's nothing to see, but, what the heck, have a go at it.
 
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Humans are stuck on what amounts to the problem of 'how to be good' and we recycle that theme endlessly. If you look at the great spiritual teachings in depth what you find is a kind of cycle - when you get to be good you then work with those who are yet to be good
I must compliment you on your intelligent thoughtfulness, Micheal. You are probably quite right, when we finally achieve a measure of what we term goodness it seems Creator sets us up via spiritually planned encounters, with persons who are yet to be good. I grew up in a depressed area of Ontario consisting mainly of kids living on subsistence farms, They were tough and our school teachers were tough too. They had to be. Consequently the strap was a frequently used accessory. Anyway, among these tough lads was what I can best describe as, "a nice guy'. His name was Ronnie. Ronnie was in grade seven and I was in grade one. For some reason, unlike the others, Ronnie liked me. He would defend me from the bullies attending our one room school. I learned to play checkers and Snakes and ladders on rainy days from him. It wasn't long before I realized, I wanted to be like Ronnie! That boy unknowingly changed the course of my life.
 
#38
That reminds me of an experiment that Rupert Sheldrake reported (tough someone else did it). Someone observed that if you partially dmaged a termite nest, the creatures would rebuild it almost exactly as before - even though the shape was fairly irregular.

He then damaged a termite nest as before, and drove a large metal plate vertically down through the structure, so that there were termites on both sides rebuilding, but there couldn't really be any communication between the two groups. Remarkably, the two halves matched very accurately each side of the metal plate.

David
David.
I like Sheldrake, a lot. He goes out on a limb sometimes, but he can often back it up with evidence and experiments. I like his morphic fields theory. I think he is essentially correct and that the concept extends to include not just physical and behavioral attributes, but spiritual tendencies as well.
 
#39
I don't think she shared her opinion on this :)
I am still getting through her book but she does talk about the finding of bits of debris from a New Mexico crash in the 1940s - and being there when this happens. But that isn't ruled out as being entirely physical. Indeed the intersection between the physical and the metaphysical is hinted at constantly. In essence a student of the history of religion is looking at the whole UFO business as if it is a new religion. Its an intriguing and refreshing take on the subject.
 
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Hurmenetar,
A few points;
1. Puthoff's public lecture/video defies the idea that the "CIA" is keeping the whole thing secret for use by break away civilizations. . Notice he also says what I've been trying to tell you guys; that the intel teams are so compartmentalized that a conspiracy on a massive scale is virtually impossible. The conspiracy theory breaks down. The video is worth listening to for that alone, though I'm sure it won't make a dent in the minds of those given to wild paranoia tinged imaginations.

2. Puthoff merely presents what he says is allegedly a piece of metal from a UFO crash. He briefly goes on to say that the metal experts he was aware of didn't know how it could be made or what it could be good for. That doesn't mean that no one on earth knew how to make it at the time. In fact, apparently we can make it now. We don't know the real origin of the sample. We would need more opinions, replication, etc related to the metal.

3."We move into an area called metamaterials, and it turns out exactly this combination of materials at exactly those dimensions turn out to be an excellent microscopic waveguide for very high frequency electromagnetic radiation terahertz frequencies. So, the wavelength is 60 microns, which is a pretty small size. But it turns out because of the metamaterial aspect of this material, those bismuth layers that act as waveguides can be one twentieth the size of the wavelength, and usually when you make a waveguide it’s gotta be about the size of the wavelength. So, in fact this turned out to be a material that would propagate sub-wavelength waveguide effects. Why somebody wants to do that we still don’t know the answer to that." - it is pure conjecture that someone purposefully built the material to have these capabilities. It could just be an accident of nature. If you have that material, it has those wavelengths. There's no proof it was engineered that way. I picked up this from somewhere on the internet re; Puthoff's metal scrap - "waveguide structure he seems to refer to the work of Viktor A. Podolskiy and others from 2004 and 2005, so actually less than a decade after they got their samples (and there's probably earlier research than those two articles). There's little to support his conclusions their piece of scrap could similarly function as a waveguide, which seems to require proper structuring. And even such waveguide simply means a structure that allows electromagnetic waves of some frequencies to pass through, not some crazy levitation that Tom DeLonge has been implying."

5. Note that Puthoff says that the wavelength feature of the scrap was discovered after "our science catches up" - he's already assumed the scrap is alien engineered. He's planting in your head the preconceived notion he has in his own. He's a true believer and that is not a good thing in an area of study where there is scant and ambiguous evidence. True believers will always try to make any evidence fit their accepted and favored paradigm. Watch out!

4. After rapidly concluding with a few statements re item 3, Puthoff goes off on all kinds of imaginings, theories and fun facts about physics - but none of that is relevant to the provenance of the piece of metal. It's all window dressing and smoke and mirrors.

I do think there is something to UFOs. The military has released a lot of good evidence that strongly suggests there's something going on in the skies. I don't have to give credence to every borderline personality disorder that sticks something under their skin and calls it an implant for attention seeking purposes, not every schizophrenic that hears alien voices in his head; nor the unscrupulous podiatrists that give them the attention they seek. Nor do I have to believe that there are people living in underground (literally) societies at the North Pole and communicating with aliens and flying retro-engineered UFOs, or any of that crap. I think a lot of people are making money selling marginal junk to gullible people.

When it comes to psi, life after death, consciousness /= brain, we have lots of good evidence of various types; quantum leaps beyond a little scrap of metal of uncertain provenance, no public testing records, no replication of testing and no ability to examine further and the word of one man who is clearly a true believer.

When I say I want to see an implant or a piece of wreckage, I mean I want to see it in an independent study with many experts reviewing the protocols and results. With implants, that should be a piece of cake given how many people claim to be walking around with them - and I don't mean some shady podiatrist cum alien implant surgical removal expert that won't allow the evidence to be reviewed. I mean, lets get a panel of objective ethical skeptics to have a look at it, publicly. I'm willing to bet there's nothing to see, but, what the heck, have a go at it.
I also read Puhoff's lecture, and you have helped crystallise something I felt about this transcript.

I rather cringed at his talk of "metric engineering". The metric tensor figures in General Relativity (of which I have only superficial knowledge). In 'flat' space-time it is a diagonal matrix with a very simple structure (1,1,1,-1). When this tensor gets more interesting, there are big masses or black holes around distorting space-time (assuming you believe this stuff - I am ambivalent). So the metric tensor is (roughly) an algebraic representation of the gravitational field. It seem rather hard to imagine manipulating something to change this tensor without producing things like huge gravitational tidal forces and general havoc.

Yes, he seemed a bit too eager to come to momentous conclusions from examining one piece of metal. However, unfortunately science seems to do this now in so many fields - think of the archaeologist that holds up a piece of rock and tell you that it is a badly worn stone tool that can tell you what its owner ate, how he hunted, how sophisticated his brain was, and that he had sex immediately before he created his tool! Think of the climate scientists that take a very noisy set of temperature measurements with very poor signal to noise ratio, and can state with confidence that we have 12 years to save the planet! Puthoff is just following the trend, but it isn't a good trend.

Unfortunately ethical sceptical scientists are a very rare breed in controversial subjects, so I don't think there is any way we can reach unambiguous conclusions. Like so much else on Skeptiko, we can only reason with uncertainty.

David
 
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