Dr. Tom Cowan Insists We Show Him Covid-19 |472|
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Brilliant!!! you said it so much better than I 
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I don’t know what viruses are or how they work exactly (no one seems to really), but I came across enough published work to discover the current theories are insufficient to explain reality. There are many things observed and documented in the world that would not be possible if the dominant theories were true.
It is a disconcerting notion. An entire body of science with widespread and accepted beliefs, billions in money and man-hours, and real-world implications could be operating partly or mostly in the dark? Yes. In fact, that is the norm in the history of science, not the exception.
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I don’t know what viruses are or how they work exactly (no one seems to really), but I came across enough published work to discover the current theories are insufficient to explain reality. There are many things observed and documented in the world that would not be possible if the dominant theories were true.
It is a disconcerting notion. An entire body of science with widespread and accepted beliefs, billions in money and man-hours, and real-world implications could be operating partly or mostly in the dark? Yes. In fact, that is the norm in the history of science, not the exception.
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I have just read your link (to your own writing), and I think it gets to the heart of quite a few issues, so I have decided to quote it here, and add some comments:
Maybe one feature that puzzled you, is the concept of herd immunity. This is an odd concept because how exactly does someone become immune to a disease without actually getting it? I wonder if Rupert Sheldrake's concept of the morphic field may come into play here. I mean maybe once a few people have thrown off the disease in question, a memory starts to form in the relevant morphic field of the group of people. Morphic fields are a strange concept, but I tend to trust Rupert Sheldrake's intuition.
Precisely, and in science I sense there is a blend of deliberate fraud and hoping that something is true while ignoring the evidence pointing the other way.......
Yes, for exmple, it would seem that the whole theory that cholesterol is dangerous, saturated fat is bad, and that statins are good because they lower cholesterol - it is all junk science, but big pharma make enormous amounts of money out of statins!
Henry Bauer was interviewed on Skeptiko some time ago. I tend to think he is probably correct.
I think this came from a book by Hope-Simpson. This also contained an account as to how serious efforts were made to transmit Spanish flu from those ill with the disease to fit volunteers. This proved essentially impossible - even when as a last resort swabs were taken from the ill and smeared inside the mouths of the volunteers!
The conclusion was that some extra ingredient was needed to become ill with flu. It is now thought that this might be a shortage of vitamin D. Some people suspect that flu and COVID do not infect people with adequate Vitamin D to any appreciable extent.
You might find my thread about Darwin's Theory interesting:
https://www.skeptiko-forum.com/threads/behes-argument-in-darwin-devolved.4317/
Almost the ultimate scientific heresy - but almost certainly true.
David
Maybe one feature that puzzled you, is the concept of herd immunity. This is an odd concept because how exactly does someone become immune to a disease without actually getting it? I wonder if Rupert Sheldrake's concept of the morphic field may come into play here. I mean maybe once a few people have thrown off the disease in question, a memory starts to form in the relevant morphic field of the group of people. Morphic fields are a strange concept, but I tend to trust Rupert Sheldrake's intuition.
Precisely, and in science I sense there is a blend of deliberate fraud and hoping that something is true while ignoring the evidence pointing the other way.......
Yes, for exmple, it would seem that the whole theory that cholesterol is dangerous, saturated fat is bad, and that statins are good because they lower cholesterol - it is all junk science, but big pharma make enormous amounts of money out of statins!
Henry Bauer was interviewed on Skeptiko some time ago. I tend to think he is probably correct.
I think this came from a book by Hope-Simpson. This also contained an account as to how serious efforts were made to transmit Spanish flu from those ill with the disease to fit volunteers. This proved essentially impossible - even when as a last resort swabs were taken from the ill and smeared inside the mouths of the volunteers!
The conclusion was that some extra ingredient was needed to become ill with flu. It is now thought that this might be a shortage of vitamin D. Some people suspect that flu and COVID do not infect people with adequate Vitamin D to any appreciable extent.
You might find my thread about Darwin's Theory interesting:
https://www.skeptiko-forum.com/threads/behes-argument-in-darwin-devolved.4317/
Almost the ultimate scientific heresy - but almost certainly true.
David
Here, Thomas Cowan is given the opportunity to explain himself regarding the topic of isolation of COVID-19:
https://odysee.com/@theconsciousres...ith-Dr.-Andrew-Kaufman-and-Dr.-Thomas-Cowan:e
https://odysee.com/@theconsciousres...ith-Dr.-Andrew-Kaufman-and-Dr.-Thomas-Cowan:e
Brilliant!!! you said it so much better than I
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2021/01/27/how-can-they-make-covid-vaccine-if-no-isolated-virus/
COVID: If they haven’t isolated the virus, how can they make a vaccine?
great... I'm definitely willing to explore this further... maybe I'm wrong.
I'd like to dig into this but would need some help setting up the interviews... are you up for that? email me alex @ skeptiko
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by the way my main resistance to cowan and rappaport is that their conclusions don't seem to make sense from a " business of science" perspective. I mean we're talking about hundreds of billions maybe trillions of dollars here... with many competing players... many competing corporations with phony-baloney muckety-mucks earning millions of dollars if they win and a lot less if they lose. this filters down to thousands of professional virologist who will get to buy that car by that new house go on vacation if they win... big beat the competition.
this isn't a rupert sheldrake vs richard wiseman dogs that know when their owners are coming home kind of situation.
I'd like to dig into this but would need some help setting up the interviews... are you up for that? email me alex @ skeptiko
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by the way my main resistance to cowan and rappaport is that their conclusions don't seem to make sense from a " business of science" perspective. I mean we're talking about hundreds of billions maybe trillions of dollars here... with many competing players... many competing corporations with phony-baloney muckety-mucks earning millions of dollars if they win and a lot less if they lose. this filters down to thousands of professional virologist who will get to buy that car by that new house go on vacation if they win... big beat the competition.
this isn't a rupert sheldrake vs richard wiseman dogs that know when their owners are coming home kind of situation.
A normal vaccine contains either live attenuated virus or dead virus in order to develop a immune response. There are no viral particles in what is actually a synthetic RNA package to produce it's own pathogens by way of the cell. By that definition it is actually not a vaccine, unless you change definition of one. Calling it what it is would (rightly) worry the population.
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I am about 3/4 of the way through that discussion,and after an excessively waffly discussion at the start, I found it extremely interesting.
I am obviously not a virologist, but these guys leave me with the feeling that this is yet another example of dodgy science like the other examples we have discussed ad nauseam here at Skeptiko.
It would be fantastically interesting to get Dr Kaufman on to Skeptiko, not so much for an interview, but more for a decent forum discussion, where everyone here who knows anything about the subject can grill him. I'd really like to nail him down about one or two examples of diseases that are normally supposed to be caused by a virus, so I could understand how this confusion can arise. Dr Kaufman seems clearer to me than Dr Cowan, because I really do not find his analogies with castles, and pencils etc at all helpful (but then, I am not super keen about Bernardo's analogies, so maybe this is just me!)
I do understand in outline how it is believed that this confusion is believed to have happened in the case of HIV - so I definitely have an open mind on this.
David
I am obviously not a virologist, but these guys leave me with the feeling that this is yet another example of dodgy science like the other examples we have discussed ad nauseam here at Skeptiko.
It would be fantastically interesting to get Dr Kaufman on to Skeptiko, not so much for an interview, but more for a decent forum discussion, where everyone here who knows anything about the subject can grill him. I'd really like to nail him down about one or two examples of diseases that are normally supposed to be caused by a virus, so I could understand how this confusion can arise. Dr Kaufman seems clearer to me than Dr Cowan, because I really do not find his analogies with castles, and pencils etc at all helpful (but then, I am not super keen about Bernardo's analogies, so maybe this is just me!)
I do understand in outline how it is believed that this confusion is believed to have happened in the case of HIV - so I definitely have an open mind on this.
David
Well several pharmaceutical companies compete like hell with their various statin products, but none of them challenge what is almost certainly a false conjecture - that cholesterol in one form or another is the cause of cardiovascular disease.
This guy quotes a whole string of studies showing that people with more cholesterol/LDL in their blood, live longer than those with less!
http://vernerwheelock.com/179-cholesterol-and-all-cause-mortality/
The point is that none of the competing players really want to overturn the whole apple cart!
David
This guy quotes a whole string of studies showing that people with more cholesterol/LDL in their blood, live longer than those with less!
http://vernerwheelock.com/179-cholesterol-and-all-cause-mortality/
The point is that none of the competing players really want to overturn the whole apple cart!
David
so for example oh, this is one of the first things I would like jon rappoport to explain to us... I mean, I mean here's a case of where a virus killed a bison in a zoo and everyone was all worked up about it cuz the virus move from the sheep to the bison. so we don't immediately jump in and say oh this is all full of s*** because there are no such thing as viruses and they can't be transmitted and they can't cause illness and death... because in this case is just a bison. but the same virologist who isolated the virus and found the cause of the illness are using the same science here. it doesn't make sense to suggest that there's this body of known science that basically works ( basically being the operative word because I know there's a lot of clunkiness to it and I know the HIV AIDS and all the rest of it)
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Doctor: Sheep give zoo’s bison fatal illness
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Sep 27, 2013 Updated Oct 17, 2013
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Dr. Wayne Griffin, left, and Dick Hebert, the director of the Chippewa Falls Parks and Recreation Department, hold a news conference Friday on last week's death of two bison at the Irvine Park Zoo.
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Adisease dating to the late 1700s and carried by otherwise healthy sheep is responsible for the deaths of two bison at the Irvine Park Zoo, a veterinarian said Friday.
DNA of the disease, Malignant Catarral Fever or MCF, was found in a sample taken from a bull bison that died last Saturday, said Dr. Wayne Griffin of the Chippewa Valley Veterinary Clinic.
Griffin has been in practice for 33 years. "This is the first confirmed case of MCF I've seen," he said at the press conference at the park with Dick Hebert, director of the Chippewa Falls Parks and Recreation Department.
Hebert said a third bison that was thought to be sick is doing fine, and will continue to be watched. “We’re hoping that animal will be OK,” he said.
The disease cannot be transferred to humans, but animals with multi-chambered stomachs are vulnerable, include cattle, bison and whitetail deer.
The zoo's six sheep, that are otherwise healthy, will be shipped out of the zoo as soon as possible, Hebert said. Where the sheep will go had not been determined as of Friday morning, he added.
The sheep shared an area with the buffalo, separated by a fence. Griffin said it’s that fence were the sheep could have left nasal secretions or saliva that transmitted the disease to two of the parks’ nine bison.
Hebert said hard work put in by the zoo’s staff, Dr. Joel Mayberry and Dr. Griffin of the veterinary clinic was responsible for tracking down what killed a male and female bison Sept. 20 and 21.
“Today, there is no treatment or cure for MCF and no vaccine,” the USDA said in an article “Battling Bison’s Mysterious MCF Disease.” That article says MCF’s cause is a group of herpesvirus. The virus itself does not live long, but once transmitted to bison it can cause mouth ulcers, swollen lymph nodes, diarrhea and a high fever.
The Bison Producers of Alberta (Canada) said the disease is transmitted in Africa by wildebeest and by sheep in North America.
“All sheep should be presumed to be carriers of the OHV-2 virus. . . Generally lambs are born virus-free, but by five to six months, almost all of the lambs are carriers. This implies the lambs are infected through contact with the adult members of the flock,” the Bison Producers of Alberta wrote about Malignant Catarrhal Fever.
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Doctor: Sheep give zoo’s bison fatal illness
By ROD STETZER |
Sep 27, 2013 Updated Oct 17, 2013
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Irvine Park Zoo bison news conference
Dr. Wayne Griffin, left, and Dick Hebert, the director of the Chippewa Falls Parks and Recreation Department, hold a news conference Friday on last week's death of two bison at the Irvine Park Zoo.
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By ROD STETZER |
Adisease dating to the late 1700s and carried by otherwise healthy sheep is responsible for the deaths of two bison at the Irvine Park Zoo, a veterinarian said Friday.
DNA of the disease, Malignant Catarral Fever or MCF, was found in a sample taken from a bull bison that died last Saturday, said Dr. Wayne Griffin of the Chippewa Valley Veterinary Clinic.
Griffin has been in practice for 33 years. "This is the first confirmed case of MCF I've seen," he said at the press conference at the park with Dick Hebert, director of the Chippewa Falls Parks and Recreation Department.
Hebert said a third bison that was thought to be sick is doing fine, and will continue to be watched. “We’re hoping that animal will be OK,” he said.
The disease cannot be transferred to humans, but animals with multi-chambered stomachs are vulnerable, include cattle, bison and whitetail deer.
The zoo's six sheep, that are otherwise healthy, will be shipped out of the zoo as soon as possible, Hebert said. Where the sheep will go had not been determined as of Friday morning, he added.
The sheep shared an area with the buffalo, separated by a fence. Griffin said it’s that fence were the sheep could have left nasal secretions or saliva that transmitted the disease to two of the parks’ nine bison.
Hebert said hard work put in by the zoo’s staff, Dr. Joel Mayberry and Dr. Griffin of the veterinary clinic was responsible for tracking down what killed a male and female bison Sept. 20 and 21.
“Today, there is no treatment or cure for MCF and no vaccine,” the USDA said in an article “Battling Bison’s Mysterious MCF Disease.” That article says MCF’s cause is a group of herpesvirus. The virus itself does not live long, but once transmitted to bison it can cause mouth ulcers, swollen lymph nodes, diarrhea and a high fever.
The Bison Producers of Alberta (Canada) said the disease is transmitted in Africa by wildebeest and by sheep in North America.
“All sheep should be presumed to be carriers of the OHV-2 virus. . . Generally lambs are born virus-free, but by five to six months, almost all of the lambs are carriers. This implies the lambs are infected through contact with the adult members of the flock,” the Bison Producers of Alberta wrote about Malignant Catarrhal Fever.
Well I'd much rather that Kaufman were to answer that question, however I guess he would say that something poisoned those animals and that that stress caused them to generate exosomes that were mistaken for viruses. The fact that this happened to multiple animals was because these were the animals that came into contact with the toxin - whatever it was - so they all emitted the same exosomes. Remember that exosomes are an accepted biological phenomenon:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0966842X04001143
I looked it up, and this virus is supposed to cause sporadic outbreaks. That at least might suggest that some toxic farm chemical is responsible.
Maybe he would also point out that "mouth ulcers, swollen lymph nodes, diarrhoea and a high fever" are fairly general symptoms that could apply to a whole range of animal illnesses (I suspect) - just as COVID is supposed to cause diarrhoea, loss of a sense of smell, tiredness, etc - all extremely non-specific symptoms. The vast majority of COVID-infected people just get better at home!
I'd love Skeptiko to explore this issue in some depth - not assume that established science is right on this one.
David
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0966842X04001143
I looked it up, and this virus is supposed to cause sporadic outbreaks. That at least might suggest that some toxic farm chemical is responsible.
Maybe he would also point out that "mouth ulcers, swollen lymph nodes, diarrhoea and a high fever" are fairly general symptoms that could apply to a whole range of animal illnesses (I suspect) - just as COVID is supposed to cause diarrhoea, loss of a sense of smell, tiredness, etc - all extremely non-specific symptoms. The vast majority of COVID-infected people just get better at home!
I'd love Skeptiko to explore this issue in some depth - not assume that established science is right on this one.
David
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Here is an interesting paper that suggests there is a lot more to the virus story than what we are told:
https://www.jpands.org/vol25no3/merritt.pdf
First, of course it suggests that there are cheap drugs - used for years - that could help with the plandemic, but are being suppressed - indeed that they could have helped treat a lot of viral disease over many years.
Secondly, I find it interesting to say the least, that drugs that deal with bacteria or parasites are useful against viruses. I feel this may be evidence that the classical view as to what the nature of viruses is, may indeed be flawed.
David
https://www.jpands.org/vol25no3/merritt.pdf
First, of course it suggests that there are cheap drugs - used for years - that could help with the plandemic, but are being suppressed - indeed that they could have helped treat a lot of viral disease over many years.
Secondly, I find it interesting to say the least, that drugs that deal with bacteria or parasites are useful against viruses. I feel this may be evidence that the classical view as to what the nature of viruses is, may indeed be flawed.
David
An NHS doctor runs a fascinating blog that covers a lot of medical topics, and he is very much against the lockdown, so he lets people post comments that explore the 'fringe'. Indeed, some people have posted on Drs Cowan and Kaufman. It is certainly worth a browse - the medical profession contains a lot of dissenters:
I found him many years ago because I had a bad reaction to statins, and did what everyone says you should not - GOOGLED a medical issue!
https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/
David
I found him many years ago because I had a bad reaction to statins, and did what everyone says you should not - GOOGLED a medical issue!
https://drmalcolmkendrick.org/
David
I think the design goal of the mRNA vaccines may be to modify human DNA to make the veil of forgetfulness even more opaque than it is now, limiting human awareness to the material physical realm.
(then, we would be meat robots in a meaningless universe)
This story is an interesting anecdote to the vaccine trials.
https://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/...ad-after-the-vaccine-urgent-read-2514214.html
excerpt:
AstraZeneca revealed details of its large coronavirus vaccine trials on Saturday, the third in a wave of rare disclosures by drug companies under pressure to be more transparent about how they are testing products that are the world’s best hope for ending the pandemic.
The release comes after a second vaccine test volunteer “Developed neurological problems.” According to sources who claim to be familiar with the vaccine trials, the second volunteer suddenly started saying “They’ve killed God; I can’t feel God anymore – my Soul is dead” after the vaccine.
The AstraZeneca COVID-19 'vaccine' is not mRNA, it's DNA.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/health/oxford-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine.html
excerpt:
But unlike the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, which store the instructions in single-stranded RNA, the Oxford vaccine uses double-stranded DNA.
Truth is stranger than fiction!
(or, in the vernacular, you just can't make this shit up!)
(then, we would be meat robots in a meaningless universe)
This story is an interesting anecdote to the vaccine trials.
https://beforeitsnews.com/prophecy/...ad-after-the-vaccine-urgent-read-2514214.html
excerpt:
AstraZeneca revealed details of its large coronavirus vaccine trials on Saturday, the third in a wave of rare disclosures by drug companies under pressure to be more transparent about how they are testing products that are the world’s best hope for ending the pandemic.
The release comes after a second vaccine test volunteer “Developed neurological problems.” According to sources who claim to be familiar with the vaccine trials, the second volunteer suddenly started saying “They’ve killed God; I can’t feel God anymore – my Soul is dead” after the vaccine.
The AstraZeneca COVID-19 'vaccine' is not mRNA, it's DNA.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/health/oxford-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine.html
excerpt:
But unlike the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna vaccines, which store the instructions in single-stranded RNA, the Oxford vaccine uses double-stranded DNA.
Truth is stranger than fiction!
(or, in the vernacular, you just can't make this shit up!)
I understand that the cause of most illness is either poor nutrition or toxins. I would look for that as the cause of the bison deaths, and I would probably have a better explanation of what happened.
Viruses, let's call those particles exosomes instead, are part of nature, and serve to function as a highly targeted intracellular communication mechanism. They also serve as solvents that absorb and remove toxins. The entire genome of exosomes are endogenous, all of them are already in our bodies, they exist in our cells, to appear when needed.
I'm not surprised that Dr. Wayne Griffin of the Chippewa Valley Veterinary Clinic immediately looks for a virus as the cause - he's a doctor - he's been indoctrinated.
I'm not surprised that there's no cure for MCF. It's certainly not causing the illness. Since MCF is related to herpes, then I suspect the presence of a heavy metal.
Herpes has been related to mercury toxicity.
I would ask,
We've been bamboozled into believing that nature is flawed and other humans are contagious and deadly to be near.
Antoine Bechamps knew it back in the mid 1800s. He said "If germs could kill us, we'd ALL be dead."
Although it would be great to hear Jon Rappoport talk about the Plandemic with Alex, all you've got to do is listen to their conversation on Skeptiko in 2015, and connect the dots yourself!
https://skeptiko.com/vaccine-autism-link-not-in-headlines-292/
Viruses, let's call those particles exosomes instead, are part of nature, and serve to function as a highly targeted intracellular communication mechanism. They also serve as solvents that absorb and remove toxins. The entire genome of exosomes are endogenous, all of them are already in our bodies, they exist in our cells, to appear when needed.
I'm not surprised that Dr. Wayne Griffin of the Chippewa Valley Veterinary Clinic immediately looks for a virus as the cause - he's a doctor - he's been indoctrinated.
I'm not surprised that there's no cure for MCF. It's certainly not causing the illness. Since MCF is related to herpes, then I suspect the presence of a heavy metal.
Herpes has been related to mercury toxicity.
I would ask,
- Were the bison injected with something containing mercury?
- Were there other environmental exposures that might involve heavy metals, maybe in their food? (the bison could possibly be fed GMO grains, you know, with glyphosate which has a synergistic effect with mercury)
- Were the bison exposed to a newly constructed cell phone tower or new electrical power lines? (EMF and dirty electricity make every other toxin more deadly)
We've been bamboozled into believing that nature is flawed and other humans are contagious and deadly to be near.
Antoine Bechamps knew it back in the mid 1800s. He said "If germs could kill us, we'd ALL be dead."
Although it would be great to hear Jon Rappoport talk about the Plandemic with Alex, all you've got to do is listen to their conversation on Skeptiko in 2015, and connect the dots yourself!
https://skeptiko.com/vaccine-autism-link-not-in-headlines-292/
@Alex
Maybe you wrote your book, "Why Science is wrong about Almost everything" without realising quite how true it might be!
When you think about how science develops, it is almost inevitable that it contains some areas of nonsense science. That doesn't mean that everyone working in such an area is aware of the flaw, because all sorts of things can cover up the truth.
The following facts seem reasonably established:
Cells do emit exosomes when they are stressed in one way or another (e.g. by toxins).
These exosomes are hard to distinguish from viruses. Both viruses and exosomes are protein bags of genetic material.
Exosomes were discovered in 1983 - long after many diseases had been attributed to viruses. Medical science is notoriously reluctant to back-track about anything.
Viral diseases that were supposedly eradicated by vaccines, have a strange habit of reappearing with a change of name:
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/...nticipates-afm-case-increase-2020/5580347002/
A doctor called Hope-Simpson performed a remarkable series of experiments trying to study the transmission of Spanish Flu. He started with a number of victims of the disease, ill in hospital, and some healthy volunteers (I presume they were paid a lot). He used increasingly extreme efforts to try to transfer the disease from the sick to the well. Finally taking mucus and saliva samples from the sick individuals and smearing the stuff inside the noses and mouths of the healthy volunteers! None of them caught the disease!
http://www.americanfeverbook.com/journal/day-83-6-hope-simpson-sheds-light-on-flu.html
That collection of facts - all kept fairly hidden - has made me move to sit on the fence on this issue, whereas before I would have dismissed the concept that polio (say) was caused by toxins.
There is also the extremely odd case of HIV/AIDS, where the HIV-AIDS connection was and is disputed by a range of senior scientists including Karry Mullis, the inventor of the PCR process. If you want to see the probable evolution of a dodgy scientific concept, just read Henry Bauer on the subject.
Unfortunately I don't think Dr Cowan presents his case very well, but I think am convinced is a lot of bad science in here worth exploring.
Intermediate positions seem possible - perhaps some diseases can be spread by exosomes/viruses (let's assume they are the same thing in essence), but many other diseases are falsely attributed to viruses because of all the above disturbing facts.
David
Maybe you wrote your book, "Why Science is wrong about Almost everything" without realising quite how true it might be!
When you think about how science develops, it is almost inevitable that it contains some areas of nonsense science. That doesn't mean that everyone working in such an area is aware of the flaw, because all sorts of things can cover up the truth.
The following facts seem reasonably established:
Cells do emit exosomes when they are stressed in one way or another (e.g. by toxins).
These exosomes are hard to distinguish from viruses. Both viruses and exosomes are protein bags of genetic material.
Exosomes were discovered in 1983 - long after many diseases had been attributed to viruses. Medical science is notoriously reluctant to back-track about anything.
Viral diseases that were supposedly eradicated by vaccines, have a strange habit of reappearing with a change of name:
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/...nticipates-afm-case-increase-2020/5580347002/
A doctor called Hope-Simpson performed a remarkable series of experiments trying to study the transmission of Spanish Flu. He started with a number of victims of the disease, ill in hospital, and some healthy volunteers (I presume they were paid a lot). He used increasingly extreme efforts to try to transfer the disease from the sick to the well. Finally taking mucus and saliva samples from the sick individuals and smearing the stuff inside the noses and mouths of the healthy volunteers! None of them caught the disease!
http://www.americanfeverbook.com/journal/day-83-6-hope-simpson-sheds-light-on-flu.html
That collection of facts - all kept fairly hidden - has made me move to sit on the fence on this issue, whereas before I would have dismissed the concept that polio (say) was caused by toxins.
There is also the extremely odd case of HIV/AIDS, where the HIV-AIDS connection was and is disputed by a range of senior scientists including Karry Mullis, the inventor of the PCR process. If you want to see the probable evolution of a dodgy scientific concept, just read Henry Bauer on the subject.
Unfortunately I don't think Dr Cowan presents his case very well, but I think am convinced is a lot of bad science in here worth exploring.
Intermediate positions seem possible - perhaps some diseases can be spread by exosomes/viruses (let's assume they are the same thing in essence), but many other diseases are falsely attributed to viruses because of all the above disturbing facts.
David
I first heard Dawn Lester and David Parker on The Higherside Chats talking about their book "What Really Makes You Ill?".
In their book they go into detail how DDT causes the illness paralytic poliomyelitis. There's a perfect correlation.
In this brief article Dr. Kelly Brogan has some charts showing the correlation.
https://kellybroganmd.com/can-learn-ddt/
This excerpt from the article reveals a diabolical twist to the story:
I’d love to believe that DDT was banned because our protectorate government agencies were exercising the precautionary principal. Unfortunately, Jim West tells a different and far more compelling story. He suggests that Polio virus has been used as a pawn to allow the vaccine program to take credit for the damage done by the chemical industry. He states:
“A clear, direct, one-to-one relationship between pesticides and polio over a period of 30 years, with pesticides preceding polio incidence in the context of the CNS-related physiology just described, leaves little room for complicated virus arguments, even as a cofactor, unless there exists a rigorous proof for virus causation.”
West surfaces the work of Dr. Morton S. Biskind who stated:
“Central nervous system diseases (CNS) such as polio are actually the physiological and symptomatic manifestations of the ongoing government- and industry-sponsored inundation of the world’s populace with central nervous system poisons.”
In this case, what we have been calling polio may have been anything but, and a focus on germ theory over environmental medicine helped obscure the truth and perpetuate a billion dollar agenda that capitalizes on a now ingrained fear of polio and other germs, by extension.
In their book they go into detail how DDT causes the illness paralytic poliomyelitis. There's a perfect correlation.
In this brief article Dr. Kelly Brogan has some charts showing the correlation.
https://kellybroganmd.com/can-learn-ddt/
This excerpt from the article reveals a diabolical twist to the story:
I’d love to believe that DDT was banned because our protectorate government agencies were exercising the precautionary principal. Unfortunately, Jim West tells a different and far more compelling story. He suggests that Polio virus has been used as a pawn to allow the vaccine program to take credit for the damage done by the chemical industry. He states:
“A clear, direct, one-to-one relationship between pesticides and polio over a period of 30 years, with pesticides preceding polio incidence in the context of the CNS-related physiology just described, leaves little room for complicated virus arguments, even as a cofactor, unless there exists a rigorous proof for virus causation.”
West surfaces the work of Dr. Morton S. Biskind who stated:
“Central nervous system diseases (CNS) such as polio are actually the physiological and symptomatic manifestations of the ongoing government- and industry-sponsored inundation of the world’s populace with central nervous system poisons.”
In this case, what we have been calling polio may have been anything but, and a focus on germ theory over environmental medicine helped obscure the truth and perpetuate a billion dollar agenda that capitalizes on a now ingrained fear of polio and other germs, by extension.
I was going to quote something Cowan said in an interview he did on Valuetainment but it has been done for me as noted above. Unless the Spanish flu was not anything like the flu bugs we know today, the only possibility as far as i can see that people wouldn't contract the flu when breathing and rubbing bogeys on each other would be if the doctors doing the experiment back in 1917, didn't have a way of testing to see if the participants had antibodies or t-cell reactions from before. I'm not a doctor but i know that on numerous occassions i have caught flu and cold bugs off people when they get too close. Is very obvious. The same applies for covid. This is mumbo jumbo science though i would agree with what Cowan says about having a natural and high fat diet. Apart from other benefits, for most people, fats and oils are very good for the heart (inc butter, eggs, fresh cream, meat fats etc)
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