Discussion in 'Critical Discussions Among Proponents and Skeptics' started by Reece, May 21, 2017.
I watched it live, I thought Shermer and his Skeptic buddy came off pretty bad, the whole "I put up basically, an attack piece against Mr. Hancock online" was ridiculous, shows the mentality of Shermer and his buddies.
A lot of comments were saying Graham was too emotional but he gets personal/ad hominem attacks quite frequently from so-called Skeptics, I would be extremely defensive as well.
Yeah, in my opinion, Shermer and his operating tactics are very much laid bare.
Have you (or anyone else) read much of Hancock's material? I'm wondering which book to start with. I mean, I know there's Fingerprint's, but it seems he may've backed off of some of that so I hesitate to start with it. Any suggestions, anyone?
I never read any of his books but I've watched plenty of interviews and a lot of his YouTube videos. I suppose I would start with either Fingerprints of the Gods or his newish book Magicians of the Gods.
Shermer constantly appealed to authority the whole podcast. When he got cornered he would pull up arbitrary points. I do feel Joe was heavily biased though (if he was supposed to be the moderator).
Haven't watched it yet, but Hancock dropped a tweet it said something along the lines of why did shermer write this article before the interview. Didn't read the article either.....looked at the replies and surprised to see a few skeptics were displeased with shermer
Really, What'd they say?
Yeah, you have to hear the points Hancock brings up about the article that were wrong or misleading . . . There were several, and as he points out, that's a rather poor sign coming from a supposed skeptic.
Shermer...that's the "skeptic" who was visited by a ghost and who proved Vedic astrology works right?
I would heavily recommend Supernatural. I think it is his best book. It is one of those books that ties in shamanic trances, alien abduction, interdimensional entities, near death experiences into one coherent framework.
I'm regretting having read those youtube comments right now.
A super video, Reece. Thanks very much.
Thanks. I'll give it a go . . . I had actually looked at it earlier (on amazon) and was more inclined towards it than the others.
Is anyone familiar with the Electric Universe Theory? Astrology is often debunked using gravity: the dr delivering the baby has more of a gravitational pull than the stars. However, EU examines the role electro-magnetism plays in the universe and it seems to me could actually give credence to astrology. Any thoughts?
Shermer got owned in the debate, and the other guy on the phone also... when they had a moment to realize they were no match for Hancock and Carlson, they changed tacks and got much nicer and more agreeable.
The other Rogan interviews (I think there's 3 or more?) with Hancock and Carlson are really great to watch on YouTube as Carlson loves his slides and has a lot of great pictures from all his explorations.
I got Magicians of the Gods for Christmas and hopefully I'll have time to read it soon.
I have no idea if astrology works. But if it works I suspect it will work utilizing something other than gravity or electromagnetism.
I think that astrology has nothing to do with either gravity or electromagnetism but operates on a semantic dimension that transcends time and space like an author inserting foreshadowing into his fictional reality.
I found the discussion really enjoyable, kinda hypnotic (that may have been something to do with the duration). It just seems a really bizarre fight to have a dog in. May tell us more about human nature than anything else.
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