is there any physicist, neurologist, who support the existence of consciousness and afterlife?

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    Hi Skeptiko
    I want to sum up some material for my article, but with my limited English and some cultural barriers I can not synthesize many materials, I hope you can help me. with some information.
    thank you
     
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  2. https://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/eminent_researchers
     
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  3. https://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/eminent_researchers
     
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  5. I'm not sure exactly what you want, there might be more at the link...

    https://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/eminent_researchers

    These scientists believed consciousness is non physical because of the empirical evidence:

    Nobel Prize winners Max Planck, Erwin Schrödinger, Brian Josephson, Sir John Eccles, Eugene Wigner, George Wald and other great scientists and philosophers such as John von Neumann, Kurt Gödel, Wernher von Braun, Karl Popper, and Carl Jung believed consciousness is non-physical because of the evidence:


    These scientists believed the universe was designed / God exists because of the empirical evidence:

    Nobel Prize winners Erwin Schrödinger, Albert Einstein, Werner Heisenberg, Guglielmo Marconi, Brian Josephson, William Phillips, Richard Smalley, Arno Penzias, Charles Townes, Arthur Compton, Antony Hewish, Christian Anfinsen, Walter Kohn, Arthur Schawlow and scientists, Charles Darwin, Sir Fred Hoyle, John von Neumann, Wernher von Braun, and Louis Pasteur, believed the scientific evidence demonstrates the existence of God or that the universe was designed:
     
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    Do you have any information about brain separation tests?
     
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  7. Do you mean when the two hemispheres are separated?

    What do you want to know?

    No one is denying the brain influences consciousness while we are in the body. I don't see a conflict between the experiences of people with separated hemispheres and belief in the afterlife. A theory has to account for all the data and there is a huge amount of evidence for the afterlife (more here).

    https://sites.google.com/site/chs4o8pt/skeptical_fallacies#skeptical_fallacies_brain
    Everyone knows that consciousness is influenced by the brain. For example, a brain injury can cause amnesia. However, this correlation between neurological states and mental states does not prove the brain produces consciousness (the production model of the brain). The same correlation would occur if the brain is a filter of non-physical consciousness (the filter model of the brain). In the filter model, the brain is said to filter some aspects of consciousness the way a colored glass can filter out some wavelengths of light. What passes through the brain filter is a restricted set of conscious faculties that we have while in the physical body. The production and filter models can both explain how brain injuries might cause loss of function like amnesia. However, the filter model can also explain how brain injuries can result in new mental capabilities that the production model cannot explain. This is because a filter can break in two ways: it can be clogged, or it can be punctured. According to the filter model of consciousness, when brain damage causes loss of function like amnesia, that is like a clog in the filter. When brain damage produces new mental capabilities, such as ESP or in Acquired Savant Syndrome (see below) that is like a hole in the filter. Furthermore, if you release the conscious mind from the brain as happens during a near death experience you should have expanded, unfiltered, consciousness. This is exactly what happens during a near death experience (see below). The production model cannot explain how injuries to the brain could produce new functions like ESP or Acquired Savant Syndrome, or how expanded consciousness could occur during a near death experience, therefore the filter model is a better explanation of how the brain functions.
    People have a lot of trouble understanding consciousness because it is non-physical. They try to understand it in terms that they are familiar with from their experience in the physical world. But non-physical means no time, no space, no matter etc. We really have no ability to understand what that means or how non-physical things work. So when we try to make sense of consciousness and how it interacts with the physical world, we think we find contradictions (things that cannot be explained in physical terms) but that is because we don't understand what it means to be non-physical.
     
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