Mod+ Is Tom DeLonge finally going give us the scoop on what the government knows about UFOs?

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https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...230e4b0b48cd8e0a5c7?ncid=engmodushpmg00000003

Something extraordinary is about to be revealed. Former high-level officials and scientists with deep black experience who have always remained in the shadows are now stepping into the light. These insiders have long-standing connections to government agencies which may have programs investigating unidentifed aerial phenomena (UAP). They intend to move into the private sector and to make all declassified information, and any future knowledge, available for all to see.

The team includes a 25-year veteran of the CIA’s Directorate of Operations; a Lockheed Martin Program Director for Advanced Systems at “Skunk Works”; a former deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence; a DoD Senior Intelligence officer who, among other sensitive responsibilities, ran a Pentagon aerospace “threat identification” program focusing on unidentified aerial technologies. And well placed and experienced professionals, from Intelligence and high academic positions, are also on board ― please see information on the Team for reference as you read.

What is going on here? Is this the beginning of some sort of trend towards a new openness on the part of the U.S. government? These people know more than any of us do, so the question of their motivation is fundamental.

It all started with award-winning platinum recording artist and producer Tom DeLonge, whose bands Blink182 and Angels & Airwaves sold over 25 million records in the 1990s. Tom spent many years studying UFOs, and essentially left his previous lucrative career to devote himself to this pursuit, using his own personal income and resources to set up an entertainment company called To The Stars (TTS). It had the goal of disseminating information about UFOs, consciousness, the paranormal and other unexplained mysteries through artistic pursuits such as fiction and non-fiction books, feature films, and television productions.

Most importantly, while doing so, Tom was gradually able to establish relationships with flag officers and other highly placed insiders in the aerospace industry, intelligence, the Department of Defense and NASA. These independent sources provided him with information about the UFO phenomenon and worked with him to develop a plan for the incremental release of this information through TTS, which would be particulary geared towards reaching younger audiences.

Like many others, I was astonished at Tom’s ability to win the trust of these impressive advisors, who at first wished to remain anonymous yet obvioulsy believed that this information belongs to all of us. I talked to Tom and found him to be serious, passionate, very sharp, articulate and highly motivated to find the truth. I understood how he was able to engage this group - he did his homework, worked very hard, was sincere, and knew how to conduct himself when meeting such people. Early on, Tom allowed me to speak with one of his advisors, which helped me understand more about his effort.

Then, in late 2016, Wikileaks published a number of Tom’s emails to John Podesta, which revealed the names of some of these sources. Among his advisors were two generals: one was a commander of the U.S. Air Force’s research laboratory at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base and responsible for managing the Air Force’s $2.2 billion science and technology program; the other was the Special Assistant to the Commander of Air Force Space Command at Peterson Air Force Base. As devastating as this was to some, it established for those who doubted him that Tom was indeed telling the truth about his high level contacts.

Tom’s plans for TTS were delayed at this point, but he persevered. Subsequent delays have been out of his control, but everyone involved agrees with the necessity for a gradual release of information. “I think they really do want us to know. I really do think they do. I do, at this point, feel like it’s going to be a tough thing to swallow for people and I think there are elements about it that people are not ready for,” Delonge told George Knapp, the chief investigative reporter for KLAS TV in Las Vegas and weekend host of Coast to Coast AM.
Fast foward to the present. Now, these early advisors have mostly receded to the background and Tom has moved on to something even bigger. He has assembled a new team of collaborators and created The To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science (TTS/AAS), for which he is President and interim CEO. The Academy includes three synergistic divisions: Science, Areospace, and Entertainment. The Public Benefit Corporation is seeking to serve the public good through exploring “the outer edges of science and the understanding of phenomena,” and making all of it public.

On Wednesday October 11, at 9:00 AM PT and 12:00 PM EST, the team will launch the new initiative at an event to be live-streamed from Seattle. Tom will introduce his colleagues and explain the intentions and purpose of the new company, and its need for public support. To tune in, or to watch it aftewards, click here.

According to a TTS /AAS statement, it’s team members who have been “operating under the shadows of top-secrecy for decades” believe that “there is sufficient credible evidence of UAP that proves exotic technologies exist that could revolutionize the human experience.” The Science divison will conduct the research, which will also include consciousness, engineering space-time, brain-computer interface, genomics, and creating a database of supranormal experiences. Aerospace will apply the science to create “next-generation energy and propulsion concepts for transportation and spaceflight that could forever change movement across land, water, air”, and Entertainment will offer “informative storytelling that provides insight into the journey and provokes curiosity in the profound yet unresolved mysteries of the world.”

On Oct. 4, I had the privilege of sitting down with Jim Semivan (TTS/AAS Vice President Operations), Harold Puthoff (Vice President Science and Technology), Christopher Mellon (National Security Affairs Advisor) and Luis Elizondo (Chief of Security and Special Programs) for a four hour meeting in Washingon DC. (I have known Hal Puthoff for many years, and worked with Chris Mellon previously for another HuffPost story.)

Hal Puthoff, who has spent over five decades publishing papers and advising government agencies on leading-edge technologies, explained that “these days, science fact is outstripping science fiction. We scientists are beginning to take seriously such ideas as warp-drive spaceflight right out of Star Trek, the high probability of extraterrestrial intelligence, and the realization that most of what will constitute the science of the future is well beyond our present comprehension. Given that the observation of anomalous aerospace phenomena in our skies might, in principle, incorporate elements from all three, it’s an irresistible challenge beckoning to be addressed.”
At the meeting, I was given information on background and shown some revelatory documents and data off the record, some of which will eventually be made public. I was especially curious to meet Luis Eiizondo because he ran a program at the DOD involving the study of anomalous aerial threats. Luis had resigned this position literally the day before we met. I was able to verify who he was and what his tasks were at the Pentagon. He received the highest commendatons from his superiors. I learned that important unclassified data and documentation is expected to be released through the Academy’s on-line Community of Interest (COI) in collaboration with the US government, which will be set up soon.

Luis told me that among several portfolios he managed, he found the issue of unexplained aerial threats and related phenomena to be particularly interesting and perplexing. “Unlike the other efforts that many people in the Pentagon knew I was associated with, the topic of aerial threats was a much more limited audience that few had any idea I was part of, with the exception of a select few individuals,” he said.

I asked him if these unidentified objects were considered to be threats. “They did not exhibit overt hostility,” he said. “But something unexplained is always assumed to be a potential threat until we are certain it isn’t.” I find it highly significant that Luis Elizondo is moving from this Program buried within the DOD into the private sector. “From our observations, my opinion and that of others is that the phenomenon is very real. On the bright side, I believe we are closer than ever before in our understanding of how it operates,” he told me.

Following the meeting, I spoke to Stephen Justice (Aerospace Division Director), who recently retired as a Program Director for Advanced Systems at Lockheed Martin after a thirty-one year career in the Skunk Works. “How dare we think that the physics we have today is all that there is,” he said, referencing this as an important message he learned from his father. “Let’s pick at those boundaries and figure out what we don’t know. Let’s remove the artficial constraints, the assumptions we’ve applied to things, and look for opportunity.” The opportunity here, as he sees it, is to “stand in the future and look back.”

Regarding UAP, he told me that since so many smart, credible people have seen them, he has concluded they must be real. “That means it can be done - these unusual flight characteristics can be done. So how do you do it? I want to dig into how you do it. It can be done!”

For example, one objective is to harvest the technology to build a vehicle that will allow for almost instantaneous travel through land, air, oceans and space, by engineering the fabric of space-time. Such a vehicle could also float, like something from science fiction. Steve says we have had glimpses of the science that could make this possible. It is not outside the realm of possibiity, if the necessary resources are in place.
Everyone I spoke to has some kind of unique relationship to or profound interest in “the Phenomenon” (UAP), and their own sense of a path forward. Jim Semivan joined the CIA in 1983 and retired after twenty-five-years. “I have come to realize that the Phenomenon is curiously multifaceted, exasperatingly complex and appears to exist both in our consensus reality and in another unknown space,” he wrote in an email to me after we met. “Perhaps, if we are very lucky, someday we may understand its ultimate purpose.”

Jim states that the planet seems to lack an organization that has the necessary funds to explore the Phenomenon in any detail and for a sustained period of time. “TTS/AAS hopes to raise enough money through its public offering and through expected profits from its entertainment and aerospace divisions to fund research into the Phenomenon and related exotic technologies for global consumption. Imagine a global, transparent, research organization tackling ideas that most scientists today will not entertain for fear of ridicule, involving young scientists from around the globe.”

I now understand the strong argument for taking this work out of government, where the priorites are different, funding is not available, and where this topic is such a hot potato that no one wants to touch it. Personal ideology and even religious fundamentalism lead to ridicule and efforts to suppress these investigations. We all know the limitations of the current system, even though some on the inside have worked hard to change that.

Chris Mellon served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence for two administrations and early in his career drafted the legislation that established the US Special Operations Command at a time when terrorism was not yet on the radar. He sees similarities between that and the present situation in terms of a lack of awareness of a major problem and a need for change.

“This is another case in which the system will not repair itself and people outside of government need to take action for breakthroughs to occur. This team has the skill set to process information others avert their eyes to and turn it to the advantage of the nation and the world.”

For many Americans, the US government is the only entity that can speak authoritatively on these issues. That will need to happen eventually if the current stalemate is to be broken. But does the movement of this knowledgeable, well-connected group out of the official world into a public company mean that government is beginning to relent? Who else might be waiting in the wings to participate? Could this endeavor be a catalyst for greater government openness?

The inspiration, the vision, and the excitement about the possible breakthroughs that this new venture offers are infectious; the intentions are of the highest order. Accomplishing the task is a mammoth - but it can be done. The TTS Academy intends to release game-changing information of the type interested people have been seeking for a long time. “The fact is, we might not necessarily be alone,” Luis Elizondo says. “Now is the time to move forward and try to answer some of life’s deepest mysteries.” This is not going to happen if we stick with the status quo.

Stay tuned for more.
 
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I watched some of their grand presentation, and I got sick of it - LOL!

David
If there hadn't been so much hype about evil aliens and government secrets leading up to this, it might have seemed more credible. But they just never deliver on the promise of new information.


Grant Cameron did some commentary on this. He explains the first video in the second video.


Here's a blog about it.
http://www.theangryufologist.us/tom-delonges-ufo-announcement-wasnt/

I was also reading Leslie Kean's FB page, and even though she is defending DeLonge, most people are just not buying into his story (or into his company).
https://www.facebook.com/lesliekean/posts/1563527857038279

George Knapp also covered the story. (Not sure if this is a news story or an infomercial.)
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/i-team-public-company-launched-to-investigate-ufos/833004610

 
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I started off in agreement with that guy, but then he wrote:
This screenshot from DeLonge’s Facebook page says it all. He claims to be building a spacecraft that can instantaneously jump anywhere in the Universe. Anyone with even the slightest modicum of physics knowledge knows just how powerfully insane that claim is, AND YOU CAN INVEST IN IT. There are a thousand tip-offs that this is just a money making scam, but this is a huge one. Praying on the scientifically illiterate is pathetic.
This kind of quote makes me angry. I mean, sure, a craft that could jump anywhere in the uiniverse, would break some laws, but the whole point about a potentially new phenomenon is that it will do something that previously seemed impossible.

Even QM tells you that anything - including a spaceship - has a probability distribution of being at a particularly location, which is sharply peaked at one particular location, but which spreads out to infinity (at least if we leave out relativity). Therefore anything that could tinker with QM probabilities could achieve a hell of a lot.

This reminds me of the common argument that X would break the first law of thermodynamics (conservation of energy). At first blush, that sounds like the ultimate put-down, but then if you think for a moment:

1) To apply the first law, you have to know all the sources of energy available. You can only do that if you know all the relevant physics - so if X is a brand knew phenomenon, claimed to use new physics - you can't definitively apply the law of conservation of energy. For example, before radioactivity was understood, you could have (erroneously) applied the first law to claim that a rock which stays hot is impossible!

2) Actually energy isn't conserved, only mass-energy (E=MC^2), and that change only occurred in the last 100 years. Who knows what other shocks may still turn up! Conceivably the first law itself might be wrong - at rock bottom it is just an observation that seems to hold true. Indeed Rupert Sheldrake suggests there is some evidence that energy is not conserved inside living systems.

Still I am glad I only heard of DeLonge yesterday, because if I had been anticipating this event for a long time, I would be mightily disappointed!

David
 
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Robert Sheaffer had Tom DeLonge's number back in May, when he disclosed the real purpose of the new venture:
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In other words, DeLonge's plan is to set up a UFO-related publishing and entertainment empire, alone the lines of George Lucas' Star Wars. As I have not read his book I cannot say whether it is likely to succeed on its own merits. However, it seems extremely dubious that large numbers of people would pay much attention to all these products were they not enticed by DeLonge's promise of Imminent UFO Disclosure!!!!

Tom DeLonge's "Sixtyish" Days to UFO Disclosure Become "Ninetyish"

In his latest post on the subject, Sheaffer writes:
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In other words, DeLonge is not announcing anything about UFOs. Instead, he has announced the formation of his new corporation to look into UFOs, and he wants you to fund it. What a truly breathtaking announcement! Here is your chance to give money to the very wealthy Tom DeLonge! Don't miss this opportunity of a lifetime!!!
...​

Sheaffer goes on to add:
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Is the presence of "government insiders" in a UFO organization unprecedented? Does it promise significant informational breakthroughs? Most UFOlogists today may not aware that back in the 1950s and 60s, NICAP had several former high-ranking CIA officials in its leadership. In 1957, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, the first Director of Central Intelligence (1947-1950) became a member of the board of NICAP. Also in 1957, Colonel Joseph Bryan III, the founder and head of the Psychological Warfare Staff at the CIA, became member of the NICAP board. Several other former CIA officials also became affiliated with NICAP. Nonetheless, despite all these government insiders, NICAP never obtained or revealed any supposed UFO secrets held by the government.

Nor is this the first time that those with a background in science and technology have been brought together in a UFO research organization. In 1973 with much fanfare, former Air Force Blue Book consultant Dr. J. Allen Hynek announced the formation of the Center for UFO Studies. Despite the participation of numerous scientists who were previously part of Hynek's "invisible college," CUFOS ultimately changed nothing in the UFO controversy.
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and:
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But let's look at the fine print. This is a stock offering, and that entails a lot of legal red tape, "Filed pursuant to Rule 253(g)(2), File No. 024-10728." "OFFERING CIRCULAR DATED SEPTEMBER 29, 2017 To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science Inc. Up to 10,000,000 shares of Class A Common Stock."
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At Longe Last - Tom DeLonge's Dramatic UFO Announcement!!
Jason Colavito goes several steps further in examining the details of the stock offering, writing:
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In generally glowing fringe media coverage of the company’s launch, no one has followed the money to see where the cash is going. This speaks both to the laziness of journalists—who focus on celebrity and “access” over facts—and to the tacit agreement of fringe types to protect their gravy train at all costs.
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and:
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Basically, it sure looks like it’s a media company that sees “disclosure” as the content it’s pursuing only insofar as it provides grist for the entertainment products. This seemed to be confirmed in a promotional article that ran on the Huffington Post in advance of today’s event. In it, the reporter wrote that the company’s ex-government consultants “intend to move into the private sector and to make all declassified information, and any future knowledge, available for all to see.” Note that they only plan to work with material that is already freely available, or that the government will itself make available of its own volition. They don’t seem to hellbent on forcing the matter, though they made vague promises that after generating vast profits from stock sales and merchandise sales (apparently more of the former than the latter, for now), they might be able to use some of the money for UFO research.
...​

Some more highlights:
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So, basically, DeLonge is giving himself a minimum $100,000 annual income just for the use of his music and image. As I read it, he would then be entitled to even more money as president and CEO of the company and possibly still more money for the original TTS AAS products he develops as part of its regular operations—i.e., the movies. That part isn’t spelled out in the documents, so I have no idea what salary DeLonge will pull in, or how he will be paid for the materials he “writes” and produces for the company outside of his own production house.

Given that the payments are supposed to last for at least seven years, don’t expect “disclosure” any time soon.
and:

What is utterly astonishing is that DeLonge is using “disclosure” to sell t-shirts and CDs, and this, in turn, seems designed to create demand for TTS AAS stock. The money taken in through the stock offering—one million dollars or more—is already earmarked to the tune of $700,000 minimum to DeLonge himself.
In short, this is what TTS AAS is all about: Big cash payments in a for-profit entertainment company. This is hardly a nonprofit selflessly pursuing “truth.” “Disclosure” is simply a product sold for profit.

Update:
At the noon ET launch event, DeLonge described his company as “a perpetual funding machine,” which seems to confirm exactly my suspicions.

Not Quite a "UFO IPO": Tom DeLonge Is Seeking Your Investment in "To the Stars" to Give Himself a $700,000 or More Payday
It's a sad state of affairs when we have to depend on unpaid bloggers like Sheaffer and Colavito for insights into the shenanigans of the UFO community. It seems celebrity UFO authors and journalists have become mere cheerleaders for keeping the mystery alive and the funds rolling in.

Doug
 
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Robert Sheaffer had Tom DeLonge's number back in May, when he disclosed the real purpose of the new venture:
...
In other words, DeLonge's plan is to set up a UFO-related publishing and entertainment empire, alone the lines of George Lucas' Star Wars. As I have not read his book I cannot say whether it is likely to succeed on its own merits. However, it seems extremely dubious that large numbers of people would pay much attention to all these products were they not enticed by DeLonge's promise of Imminent UFO Disclosure!!!!

Tom DeLonge's "Sixtyish" Days to UFO Disclosure Become "Ninetyish"

In his latest post on the subject, Sheaffer writes:
...
In other words, DeLonge is not announcing anything about UFOs. Instead, he has announced the formation of his new corporation to look into UFOs, and he wants you to fund it. What a truly breathtaking announcement! Here is your chance to give money to the very wealthy Tom DeLonge! Don't miss this opportunity of a lifetime!!!
...​

Sheaffer goes on to add:
...
Is the presence of "government insiders" in a UFO organization unprecedented? Does it promise significant informational breakthroughs? Most UFOlogists today may not aware that back in the 1950s and 60s, NICAP had several former high-ranking CIA officials in its leadership. In 1957, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, the first Director of Central Intelligence (1947-1950) became a member of the board of NICAP. Also in 1957, Colonel Joseph Bryan III, the founder and head of the Psychological Warfare Staff at the CIA, became member of the NICAP board. Several other former CIA officials also became affiliated with NICAP. Nonetheless, despite all these government insiders, NICAP never obtained or revealed any supposed UFO secrets held by the government.

Nor is this the first time that those with a background in science and technology have been brought together in a UFO research organization. In 1973 with much fanfare, former Air Force Blue Book consultant Dr. J. Allen Hynek announced the formation of the Center for UFO Studies. Despite the participation of numerous scientists who were previously part of Hynek's "invisible college," CUFOS ultimately changed nothing in the UFO controversy.
...​

and:
...
But let's look at the fine print. This is a stock offering, and that entails a lot of legal red tape, "Filed pursuant to Rule 253(g)(2), File No. 024-10728." "OFFERING CIRCULAR DATED SEPTEMBER 29, 2017 To The Stars Academy of Arts and Science Inc. Up to 10,000,000 shares of Class A Common Stock."
...
At Longe Last - Tom DeLonge's Dramatic UFO Announcement!!
Jason Colavito goes several steps further in examining the details of the stock offering, writing:
...
In generally glowing fringe media coverage of the company’s launch, no one has followed the money to see where the cash is going. This speaks both to the laziness of journalists—who focus on celebrity and “access” over facts—and to the tacit agreement of fringe types to protect their gravy train at all costs.
...​
and:
...
Basically, it sure looks like it’s a media company that sees “disclosure” as the content it’s pursuing only insofar as it provides grist for the entertainment products. This seemed to be confirmed in a promotional article that ran on the Huffington Post in advance of today’s event. In it, the reporter wrote that the company’s ex-government consultants “intend to move into the private sector and to make all declassified information, and any future knowledge, available for all to see.” Note that they only plan to work with material that is already freely available, or that the government will itself make available of its own volition. They don’t seem to hellbent on forcing the matter, though they made vague promises that after generating vast profits from stock sales and merchandise sales (apparently more of the former than the latter, for now), they might be able to use some of the money for UFO research.
...​

Some more highlights:
...
So, basically, DeLonge is giving himself a minimum $100,000 annual income just for the use of his music and image. As I read it, he would then be entitled to even more money as president and CEO of the company and possibly still more money for the original TTS AAS products he develops as part of its regular operations—i.e., the movies. That part isn’t spelled out in the documents, so I have no idea what salary DeLonge will pull in, or how he will be paid for the materials he “writes” and produces for the company outside of his own production house.

Given that the payments are supposed to last for at least seven years, don’t expect “disclosure” any time soon.
and:

What is utterly astonishing is that DeLonge is using “disclosure” to sell t-shirts and CDs, and this, in turn, seems designed to create demand for TTS AAS stock. The money taken in through the stock offering—one million dollars or more—is already earmarked to the tune of $700,000 minimum to DeLonge himself.
In short, this is what TTS AAS is all about: Big cash payments in a for-profit entertainment company. This is hardly a nonprofit selflessly pursuing “truth.” “Disclosure” is simply a product sold for profit.

Update:
At the noon ET launch event, DeLonge described his company as “a perpetual funding machine,” which seems to confirm exactly my suspicions.

Not Quite a "UFO IPO": Tom DeLonge Is Seeking Your Investment in "To the Stars" to Give Himself a $700,000 or More Payday
It's a sad state of affairs when we have to depend on unpaid bloggers like Sheaffer and Colavito for insights into the shenanigans of the UFO community. It seems celebrity UFO authors and journalists have become mere cheerleaders for keeping the mystery alive and the funds rolling in.

Doug
This is really cringe inducing stuff. I have no idea how this has gotten past anyone's bullshit detector and its worrying that Hal Puthoff, Dean Radin and Leslie Kean are endorsing this.
 
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If someone tried to explain how alien/UFO technology actually works, you would all stand around with your eyes glazed over. It's all above humanity's ability to understand. If you can generate a superluminal field, you can do anything.
 
#11
More promises from DeLonge.


Whitley Streiber gives his support to DeLonge.


John Alexander doesn't recommend investing in Delonge's company, and Robert Bigelow is busy working on his own stuff right now:


I'm still not buying into what DeLonge is selling.
 
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#12
Where Did the Road Go? gets into the Tom DeLonge controversy. (Trancestate should check out what is said at around 55 mins.)


Here is another commentary on To The Stars Academy (which was originally To the Stars Incorporated):

 
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#13
Grant Cameron says it's a setup.


Grant Cameron provides some interesting commentary about Delonge including suggesting that Delonge tried to buy the data collected by FREE from UFO experiencers (6:17 min). Apparently, Rey Hernandez turned down the money that Delonge offered.

 
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This commentator suggests that what the ex-CIA/skunkworks people involved with Tom Delonge are actually promoting is the weaponization of space. Which Grant Cameron also touched on when he mentioned that Delonge thinks the US should fire nukes into the upper atmosphere (in the previous post's video).


Here's the full Joe Rogan interview with Tom Delonge. Delonge calls UFOs "aerial threats".

 
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Robert Sheaffer has a new blog post about Tom DeLonge:

Tom DeLonge, Serial Deleter
[...]For one thing, he is a Serial Deleter on social media. Meaning, that he carelessly posts stupid stuff, that he soon has to delete after the embarrassment of having it quickly shot down.[...]
[...]What all this shows is that Tom DeLonge is a very careless guy, who believes practically every crazy UFO story he hears. He impulsively posts flaky photos to Facebook or Instagram, then soon removes them once someone points out that they are known to be hoaxes. Yet he has raised almost $2 million from "investors" in less than a month. I'll bet even Steven Greer hasn't raised that much in the past few years.......[...]
Sheaffer includes a few examples of DeLonge's extreme credulity. They'd be amusing if it weren't for the fact that this flake has raised nearly $2 million over the past month from suckers who believe DeLonge's entry into the UFO industry will make a difference, and actually lead to a greater understanding of the phenomenon.
 
#16
Here's the full Joe Rogan interview with Tom Delonge. Delonge calls UFOs "aerial threats
The stupidity of this is breathtaking. If UFO's exist, they obviously employ technologies far beyond ours, and dreaming of attacking them (while probably destroying our own civilisation in the process) is just madness.

I think there are unthinking forces in the US that just thrive on war or the threat of war.

David
 
#17
I agree with you, David.

Here is more commentary on the Tom Delonge thing.


I thought maybe I had imagined that George Knapp said Delonge's lawyers wouldn't let him give interviews, because it makes no sense that he was on Rogan if that were true. But here it is:

 
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