Ok thanks for clarification, browsed this manifesto, creeps me out a little. I hear so much double-speak and marketing in these efforts now, though I realize this is my lens at this time. While I agree on the basis of what's being 'sold' I am confused about all the appeals to authority. So we need to not throw the baby out with the bathwater, I've heard that enough times to see it in their appeals, but I still hear a controlling hand here, in every point. But just for the one you quoted, #4 "4. Scientific methods based upon materialistic philosophy have been highly successful in not only increasing our understanding of nature but also in bringing greater control and freedom through advances in technology." I don't think the average man or woman understands nature any better, not by a long shot, thanks to advances in technology. Do you think you have a good understanding of nature? How much control do you have over your daily life now, and how much freedom, would you say? I don't think this does reinforce any point about no cogent single voice as alternative, I think it does just the opposite. It tells us we will still be working through the maps and institutions currently laid out for us, but in a more integrated way. So to me this means, more waters infested with the same agenda but new fishes.