Jasun Horsley, How Culture Shapers Spin Aleister Crowley |457|

Alex

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#21
this just in
Pentagon Has ‘Off-World Vehicles Not Made on This Earth’
Bombshell: The government’s once-clandestine UFO program will reveal findings on unexplained materials and crashes.
BY ANDREW DANIELS
JUL 25, 2020:
https://www.popularmechanics.com/mi...3777/pentagon-ufo-program-materials-vehicles/

note the hat-tip to "To The Stars Academy of Arts & Science, a UFO research group from former blink-182 member Tom DeLonge."

And the clickable Amazon ads at the end of the article to Pasulka's American Cosmic.
and the source: popularmechanics... of 9/11 fame :)

--- from above:
Now, a new report in the New York Times confirms those accounts. The government’s UFO unit currently resides in the Office of Naval Intelligence, where it “deals with classified matters,” per the report, even though the unit itself isn’t classified.
... and even though (as Leslie Kean and I chatted about) the tic-toc stuff wasn't classified... I mean, I honestly can't wrap my head around this spin:
 
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#22
Yeppers. Speaking only for myself (though I would imagine this applies to everyone).

I no longer have any clue as to what to "conclude," much less to perilously adopt as a "belief" - an operational assumption upon which I will make life impacting decisions.

It is as if I have one of 16 personal appendages in each of those 16 regions of hell where all I can do is watch. Just like Alex. And all I am left with is the entertainment value of it all...

 
#23
I don't self-designate that way - it would be presumptuous and un-humble of me, and not very Christian! ;) But as I said to Alex, even without looking to Rene Girard, Dostoyevsky, C S Lewis, or Rudolph Steiner for deep reading, there is something unparalleled in profundity about the Christ-ian formula.

Girard for dummies: https://auticulture.com/the-skapegoat-rene-girard-cbc-series-mp3-downloads/
My goal for the weekend is to have listened to all five parts and...

To have gone through the entirety of the Levenda - Crowley - Horsley article (and e-mail exchange) on Jasun's site
 
#25
I don't self-designate that way - it would be presumptuous and un-humble of me, and not very Christian! ;) But as I said to Alex, even without looking to Rene Girard, Dostoyevsky, C S Lewis, or Rudolph Steiner for deep reading, there is something unparalleled in profundity about the Christ-ian formula.

Girard for dummies: https://auticulture.com/the-skapegoat-rene-girard-cbc-series-mp3-downloads/
Jasun, please forgive me for my mistake, and deep thanks for the Girard links. I had tried to research his position on the run, but with little success, and I appreciate the opportunity to listen to these downloads.
 
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#26
I immersed myself in ufology for a year (2006) and despite my proficiency in research came away with dismay at its being a labyrinth of such a degree of disinformation that trying to simply form even hypotheses seemed futile. The latest round seems like the same ole same ole, yet it is catching intelligent "newbies" in it web, even if they remain on the fence about the key questions. One possible difference (I say "possible" b/c I refuse to spend much of my scarce time on ufology) is that there is no longer propaganda about an alien invasion. If I am right, why do you think this is so?
 
#28
A couple of observations: Peter Levenda is one of the few in conspiracy culture who remains steadfastly anti-fascist. It is curious that his character is being assassinated when the rest of that subculture is going all in for far right ideologies.

Also, Alex mentions "Sabbatean Frankists." Can someone unpack that?
 

Alex

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#29
A couple of observations: Peter Levenda is one of the few in conspiracy culture who remains steadfastly anti-fascist. It is curious that his character is being assassinated when the rest of that subculture is going all in for far right ideologies.

Also, Alex mentions "Sabbatean Frankists." Can someone unpack that?
What's Behind the Frankist-Sabbatean Movement and its Cult ...

SABBATAI ZEVI & JACOB FRANK - THE SATANIC LAW OF ...

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of course all this is coming out of a dominant religious/cult-ish perspective... but it's absolutely 100% real history... this stuff really happened.
 
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