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The Alpha · Jul 30, 2017

David Bailey said: (go to post)

If you really want to discuss this issue, I will discuss it via PM.

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Just started using this site, might be a good idea to notify me about how to do that function...

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David Bailey · Jul 31, 2017

The Alpha said: (go to post)

Just started using this site, might be a good idea to notify me about how to do that function...

Russell
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There are several ways. Start from the main forum page:
http://www.skeptiko-forum.com/

Then click on 'conversations' on the menu bar, and clisk 'start a new conversation' at top right.

David

Sciborg_S_Patel · Aug 4, 2017

Lucifer's Technologies, Part One

Well, what about all those Luciferian texts and the Luciferian cults and the Luciferian this and the Luciferian that?

Well, there may be a few small cults here and there that identify as "Luciferian" (and might be considered as such by some, like the Process Church) but as you probably know a handful of people can get together and call themselves whatever they want.

It's much the same way people misidentify the Eye of Providence with the Eye of Horus. Because they can and it feels good.

The truth is that the "facts" you might have heard about the "Luciferians" in the New World Order are based entirely on rumor and innuendo arising from the fertile imaginations of religious paranoids, many of which are of extremely recent vintage (Jack Chick, Texe Marrs, Tony Alamo, etc etc etc).

The name has entered the lexicon because "Satanist" sounds too trailer-park, is my best guess. "Luciferian" sounds all hoity-toity and Masterpiece Theatre. British accents are almost de rigeur.

Similarly, the Bavarian Illuminati were not "Luciferian," unless you begin to stretch the term to mean absolutely anything you want it to. The Bavarian Illuminati were in fact Enlightenment rationalists, most of whom had little time for supernaturalism of any kind.
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And given the incredible evil and totalitarianism that's out in the open, do we still really need myths of secret UN Theosophists setting the table for Lucifer's return? It seems almost comforting in light of the insanity that's gripping this country (oh, like the mainstreaming of Satanism) and the rest of the planet as well.
Indeed, it's all too fitting that Lucifer retired as King of Hell in the comics and now the TV series since he or more accurately, the title, seems to have been press-ganged into service in the first place.

As many of you might know, there is in fact a Luciferian body of literature of another kind, myths of light-bringers who defied the Great Sky Gods in order to grant knowledge unto humans and paid a terrible price for these gifts.

It could very well be why these Gnostic groups saw the Serpent in the Garden of Eden as the good guy- some even saw him as Christ himself- because he came to free Adam and Eve from the bondage of ignorance. As it turns out, they were cribbing their theology from other sources.
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Vault313 · Aug 4, 2017

Sciborg_S_Patel said: (go to post)

Lucifer's Technologies, Part One
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I just referenced Chris Knowles in another thread. I've heard him say before that he doesn't believe Luciferianism is actually a thing. But as your referenced quote shows, he does believe Satanism is very much a thing.

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