LoneShaman
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Perhaps there will be a church of Mork in a few thousand years. :)
I can buy that! I would be the Catholic gnostic Mork! Plus you know what they say about Catholic girls !!! OHHHHH, don't get me going at work here ! You know what, I come to love this thread!
posts should contribute to the knowledge base of the group. links, quotes, informed opinions based on experience. please take a couple of days off from posting so you can read the forum and get a hang of it. send me an email when yr ready to re-join: alex at skeptiko.comIt sounds like you both are from the Charles Manson family lol much like Mr. Crowley one of your types.
it's kinda funny that you started this thread because this is the next major skeptiko project and we are right in the middle of it. so please send me a private message / conversation if you want to join in the fun.
But be forewarned we're doing kind of a deep dive so unless you're into stuff like comparing josephus versus tacitus it might not be that interesting to you.
Spoiler alert... it's pretty obvious that jesus of the bible didn't exist. and if you want to settle for an atheist... oops I mean agnostic... fallback position like bart ehrman then you have to ask yourself what that version of jesus gets you
For Gnostics the root of evil is ignorance and by following the teachings we can learn to escape ignorance to become enlightened. It is not given by Jesus or God, but is attained by turning inwards to attain gnosis. So it is up to the individual to gain salvation.
Therein lies the fundamental difference between Gnosticism and Christianity.
Gnosticism says men can become gods by their own volition, without God's grace.
The Bible teaches that men are not intended to be gods, but can achieve eternal life only by exercising their Free Will to obey the laws of the Universe as revealed by the Monad in the Bible.
Again I ask, why is it that Christians are a hated minority, and the destructive systems of Transhumanism, Communism, and Global NWO Totalitarianism are based upon Gnosticism? You keep ignoring this.
There is no reference to the Monad, that would be blasphemous! Although this is who Jesus refers to
Because it isn't.
It certainly can't be argued that the Church has not been responsible for all the things I previously mentioned over 2 thousand years. Except the apologetic view that it was Satan's work or rather the erroneous ad hoc equivalent of Lucifer that was responsible and not actually men acting in Gods name.
You contradict yourself.
The destructive systems of Transhumanism, Communism, and Global NWO Totalitarianism are indeed based upon Gnosticism/Luciferianism/Satanism.
Keep studying all those philosophies and you will eventually realize this fact.
What percentage of the world's population do you calculate is Christian? Please show your work.
No, I think I was quite clear, but please if you can find reference to the Monad in the bible I would very much appreciate the quote.
You said that in the bible Jesus refers to the Monad.
Then you said there is no reference in the bible to the Monad.
Which is it?
Both. Like I said there are two Gods in the bible. Only one is named.
I think it is easy to obsess about whether a person - or indeed a virus - did or did not exist. It sort of misses the point. Can you say that a virus exists, if it doesn't have the properties stated for it? Likewise, can you say that a figure like Jesus existed, if he didn't have a life anything like the one he is recorded as having.Noting magical or mystical about a person living on earth or not; they did or didn't . Fact is Jesus did exist and was killed crucified by the powers of be in Israel at the time along with the Jewish leaders because of things he was doing. Any Atheist PHD in history will tell you that. I mean did George Washington really exist? How do you really know? Dumb question right ? If the shoe fits!
...then he just about disappears till he is nearly 30
There is absolutely no references during the life of Jesus, nothing.