Joseph Atwill, Why is the Deep State Interested in Psychedelics? |364|

The only entheogen I have ever taken is oral cannabis (I have never smoked anything), and I must say, one time when I took it, I threw up. I think the body just reacts to the weirdness with a sense of "maybe this is poison" and takes the obvious action - rather as it does sometimes if people are subjected to aerial stunts or even to roller coasters!.

BTW, it is good to see you back, once you realised that we are not in any way interested in bashing President Trump - well I think Alex still has some caveats about him, but I don't!

David
I never left because of any Trump comment, I was busy riding my bike or roaming around. Anyone who wants to fight about Trump with me can meet me outside, and if I'm not there in 5 mins. they can start without me.

I don't know about eating cannabis... I think you should smoke that. But you know, not become addicted to it or buy it, you should grow it yourself so you know what is in it. I think it would help you concentrate on things, I mean if you wanted to.

Each person is such an individual what & how they do things depends on their life experiences and their own body. I'm listening to this program as I type. So yes, this guy who took it for headaches, fine. People who have their heads together, LSD... fine. These plants or things there of, should be studied and used to help others. The new thing they are pushing is "micro dosing". um... maybe good/maybe bad for people.

Yep, if you have your head together, taking something like LSD will open the mind to new ideas and thinking, there is nothing like it. I have a problem with adults (who should know better) telling every kid, "oh, go to Mexico and take weird drugs." No. That is a bad idea. A VERY bad idea. That isn't how it's done.

I'll tell you a bigger issue we should be looking at. Did you know 80% of generic Rx's come from China? Walk it back.... you see the problem here? None of these drugs are labeled where they come from. We need to change that law now. I'll pay $2. more for aspirins made in the USA.

** and to Alex (in regards to Trump) yeh, we all laughed when he first came upon the scene, I got that. I don't even think he actually thought he could win, but hey attention is good.. right? So there he goes & next thing he finds he actually won. Next, he saw all these people and something happened in him. Americans looking for him to "fix" stuff. yep, he all of a sudden saw something. He has kids, he loves his kids. This became something new to him. He found himself in the thick of it all. I'm sure his eyes were opened once he got in for a few months & got some "briefings". I read some FBI reports when I was young, and it was shocking. From the church, to why wars, oil, Kennedy, all the way to laser weapons. Pretty scary stuff. Just when you think it was YOUR idea you find out no, you've been lead like a fool to the poisoned water and drank.

So, President Trump is trying to do the best he can under terrible circumstances. Look at the life he could have had. The Democrats are poison. Look at Mexico Beach, Fla., Washington state, Chicago, San Francisco, freakin mess. Who is in charge there? yeh that. The Clinton (sellout) machine. It's pretty deep all right, pretty deep.

Alex, your video for today (I'm sure you've seen it/but is worth repeating):
 
I don't know about eating cannabis... I think you should smoke that. But you know, not become addicted to it or buy it, you should grow it yourself so you know what is in it. I think it would help you concentrate on things, I mean if you wanted to.
Well of course, I cooked it into something - it is just that I have always avoided smoking anything, and I am certain I am better for that.
Each person is such an individual what & how they do things depends on their life experiences and their own body. I'm listening to this program as I type. So yes, this guy who took it for headaches, fine. People who have their heads together, LSD... fine. These plants or things there of, should be studied and used to help others. The new thing they are pushing is "micro dosing". um... maybe good/maybe bad for people.
I'd love to try LSD, but how can you be sure it is not contaminated with other chemicals wherever it is manufactured. At least cannabis is a natural plant.
I'll tell you a bigger issue we should be looking at. Did you know 80% of generic Rx's come from China? Walk it back.... you see the problem here? None of these drugs are labeled where they come from. We need to change that law now. I'll pay $2. more for aspirins made in the USA.
Agreed, and I think it would be far better if each country manufactured far more of the stuff it needs. It might be less 'efficient' but it would give people back proper jobs.
** and to Alex (in regards to Trump) yeh, we all laughed when he first came upon the scene, I got that. I don't even think he actually thought he could win, but hey attention is good.. right? So there he goes & next thing he finds he actually won. Next, he saw all these people and something happened in him. Americans looking for him to "fix" stuff. yep, he all of a sudden saw something. He has kids, he loves his kids.
I first got interested in Trump at a UKIP party conference (that is the party that campaigned for the BREXIT vote). There was a guy there with a huge picture of Donald Trump on a T shirt that covered most of his body. He described how the US media would pick out odd phrases from his rallies to try to make him look stupid (echoed over here by the BBC), he also pointed out the connections between Trump and the whole UKIP/BREXIT movement here in Britain.
So, President Trump is trying to do the best he can under terrible circumstances. Look at the life he could have had. The Democrats are poison. Look at Mexico Beach, Fla., Washington state, Chicago, San Francisco, freakin mess. Who is in charge there? yeh that. The Clinton (sellout) machine. It's pretty deep all right, pretty deep.
I used to like the Dems decades ago, but they seem to have decayed into something wild. Mind you, I think without Trump at the head, the Republican party can get pretty weird too. It is as though something is eating into our democracies.
Alex, your video for today (I'm sure you've seen it/but is worth repeating):
Er, that video was hypnotically dystopian, but is it meant to mean something? I'm almost 70, so maybe it is an age thing - Alex clearly loved it!

David
 
Well of course, I cooked it into something - it is just that I have always avoided smoking anything, and I am certain I am better for that.

Yes, of course smoking is bad. But, I think if it's just a bit of grass... I just think that delivery system would be better.

I'd love to try LSD, but how can you be sure it is not contaminated with other chemicals wherever it is manufactured. At least cannabis is a natural plant.

Of course. You'd have to get some from somebody who already did that batch that you trust. It was easier in the 70's.....now, too many "sketch" people". You'd have to make inroads into people who know... but I think if you can't get LSD, then mushrooms (which you can grow yourself) would be a great alternative. Yes (to the question you are thinking).

Now obtaining the spores for the mushrooms... you're in Britain right? Well they sell kits there. If you did the mushroom, you'd want "golden teacher" do just a tiny bit, then build up to what you like. The difference between the effects of LSD & mushrooms is different yes. I'd say w/LSD you are looking at all kinds of patterns, even little elephants walking on your window ledge. But, in those patterns you begin to see a common pattern. Now, all of this is of course if you are "all good" (which I've never been bad on this) but... the pattern help you understand how things are connected. Suddenly you can see the correlation between things (everything sometimes).

On the mushroom, it's more... hum, how to explain...things become "clear".

Agreed, and I think it would be far better if each country manufactured far more of the stuff it needs. It might be less 'efficient' but it would give people back proper jobs.

I first got interested in Trump at a UKIP party conference (that is the party that campaigned for the BREXIT vote). There was a guy there with a huge picture of Donald Trump on a T shirt that covered most of his body. He described how the US media would pick out odd phrases from his rallies to try to make him look stupid (echoed over here by the BBC), he also pointed out the connections between Trump and the whole UKIP/BREXIT movement here in Britain.

Yikes, YES, I've been watching this entire Brexit thing. wow. When it passed I thought oh hell no, the EU will NEVER let them leave. AND, if they do, there will be so many strings you guys might as well be in. They will make it look like you're "out" but, you'll be tied up forever. The Americans don't understand or hear about Brexit on the news of course, I have to dig to find info. AND, the problem w/that is you never know who looks good, but is selling nonsense. Even some people living there argued with me that there were no"no go zones" they said that was a lie. It isn't a lie.

I've seen this happen almost overnight in one of our states. Hundreds of thousands of migrants came to our city (Miami, Fl.) it was unbelievable. All of a sudden everything changed, the language, business's, crime. At the time I was a forest ranger (very young), I saw them wash up on Key Biscayne beaches. It was near sunrise. I yelled to my fellow rangers omg look! We have to go down & round them up! They just sat there. I said wth? Let's go! They said no, because the police already said they can't do anything. They will still be filling out paperwork while they are on the street with $$, housing and free loans.

When I spoke to an FBI agent, he told me, "Virginia, look at a map it will tell you all you need to know." Further, he told me of the mass exodus of agents & law enforcement to other states. The slogan began "will the last American please bring the flag." Even a quick stop at the airport there (years later) with my kids (to show them Key West) was a nightmare. Driving through was almost a disaster and we kept to the main roads.

You have to leave the EU. They will make it VERY painful (even try to make you regret leaving) but, you have to become sovereign. I don't know, to me you guys kind of look like you're done. You're too overcome already. pshhh, "government" bunch of loons. At our ages we just should find peace & happiness where we can. I just feel bad for those behind us. God help us if there is reincarnation! I'm going to another planet!

I used to like the Dems decades ago, but they seem to have decayed into something wild. Mind you, I think without Trump at the head, the Republican party can get pretty weird too. It is as though something is eating into our democracies.

Yes, but it's been "eating" on us for awhile. I also used to vote Dem. not now. I've seen the decline also, everyone has, it's in your face. It's coming from the media (no shocker there), educational systems & fractured societies. Even the kids in their 20's see it has changed. Our cultures, what is acceptable.

Er, that video was hypnotically dystopian, but is it meant to mean something? I'm almost 70, so maybe it is an age thing - Alex clearly loved it!

Oh the video is actually very good. At 70 you should understand more than most, it shows the destruction. How oil is tied to things (the 7 sisters). The infiltration of what the "church" has done, creeper governments & their crypt keeper sock puppets. mmm. there is too much to explain, but the chest board...
C7 is a chess move. There are a lot of web sites to explain much that is seen in I pet Goat.


Did you see the opening ceremony for the Gotthard base tunnel in Switzerland? Now that was weird:




David
 
Atlantis,

About smoking - I think those of us who never have would find it difficult to inhale even one breath - I think I would be instantly nauseous.

About mushrooms - I think that might be a possibility, but my partner would go berserk if I tried to do it! She is from an Eastern European country where they pick edible mushrooms to eat, but the kind of mushrooms we are talking about are considered inedible! However, I will think about it!

I can't tell how the BREXIT thing will end, but we might get free because the EU is starting to get sick of waiting for our politicians to decide - of course they shouldn't be doing that - because we made the decision 3 years ago! Back in 1975, we had a referendum on the same issue, but the EU was called the Common Market. I voted to stay in back then because the Common Market seemed harmless and beneficial in that it did tend to damp down possible military fights between nations (remember WWII was not so very long in the past), but now the EU is quite expansionist - like any other empire - and dangerous.

I must say that when I look at politics now, I do wonder if there is some psychic component to what is happening - in addition to shed loads of money from Soros! The degeneration has been so swift - it makes me think of the fall of so many civilisations in the past.

David
 
Atlantis,

About smoking - I think those of us who never have would find it difficult to inhale even one breath - I think I would be instantly nauseous.

You just go slow. I don't smoke except the once in awhile weed.

About mushrooms - I think that might be a possibility, but my partner would go berserk if I tried to do it! She is from an Eastern European country where they pick edible mushrooms to eat, but the kind of mushrooms we are talking about are considered inedible! However, I will think about it!

Well then, you can't do it if she is going to freak out about it. You can't have that it will bum you out. You really need to be in a happy place.

I can't tell how the BREXIT thing will end, but we might get free because the EU is starting to get sick of waiting for our politicians to decide - of course they shouldn't be doing that - because we made the decision 3 years ago! Back in 1975, we had a referendum on the same issue, but the EU was called the Common Market. I voted to stay in back then because the Common Market seemed harmless and beneficial in that it did tend to damp down possible military fights between nations (remember WWII was not so very long in the past), but now the EU is quite expansionist - like any other empire - and dangerous.

Yes, living there with that WW2 history would make things look very different than being over here. But, you have Germany ordering you around now. I don't know, I wouldn't like it. England has changed so much. The way you look, what is reported. It's not the same & not an improvement.

I must say that when I look at politics now, I do wonder if there is some psychic component to what is happening - in addition to shed loads of money from Soros! The degeneration has been so swift - it makes me think of the fall of so many civilisations in the past.

I thought the same thing as you said above, the fall of Rome. BUT, (since I'm a natural debater anyway) we are not living in 476 C.E.! That might be a good thing... with AI coming and technology... we might have another chance. We can still pull this out.

This "psychic component" you speak of you mean like the Bible & God (end times kind of thing)? Eh, it DID cross my mind, but I don't think so. I mean I live in Georgia in the USA and this is known as the "Bible belt". So, we hear a lot of "God's wrath/demons doing their nasty" in regards to much of what is going on esp. in politics. AND, according to Wikileaks the Dems were into some real nasty weirdness, with "spirit dinners", odd ball child porn pictures. I mean the whole thing is sick (too much to get into here). They are freaks for sure.... but, I think they are just sick people. Not the "devils work".

What I have noted is someone is trying to split the UK and the USA up. We get to hear about your London mayor who floats that stupid diaper balloon. The spy who wrote that nasty dossier (did you read it?!). Now, that was trash. So, this Mi6 (I think you call your spy club) he was trying to undo our election. So... yeah.. I am noticing that.

PS: Soros is a tool.
David
 
Yes, living there with that WW2 history would make things look very different than being over here. But, you have Germany ordering you around now. I don't know, I wouldn't like it. England has changed so much. The way you look, what is reported. It's not the same & not an improvement.
We do have Germany controlling us, but do I remember that I campaigned and voted for BREXIT. The EU now is utterly different from the organisation we joined long ago.
I thought the same thing as you said above, the fall of Rome. BUT, (since I'm a natural debater anyway) we are not living in 476 C.E.! That might be a good thing... with AI coming and technology... we might have another chance. We can still pull this out.

This "psychic component" you speak of you mean like the Bible & God (end times kind of thing)? Eh, it DID cross my mind, but I don't think so. I mean I live in Georgia in the USA and this is known as the "Bible belt". So, we hear a lot of "God's wrath/demons doing their nasty" in regards to much of what is going on esp. in politics. AND, according to Wikileaks the Dems were into some real nasty weirdness, with "spirit dinners", odd ball child porn pictures. I mean the whole thing is sick (too much to get into here). They are freaks for sure.... but, I think they are just sick people. Not the "devils work".
As I have said before, the Dems seem to have decayed into a total mess. I certainly wasn't thinking of anything Christian (I don't subscribe to any faith) when I wrote of a possible psychic component.
What I have noted is someone is trying to split the UK and the USA up. We get to hear about your London mayor who floats that stupid diaper balloon. The spy who wrote that nasty dossier (did you read it?!). Now, that was trash. So, this Mi6 (I think you call your spy club) he was trying to undo our election. So... yeah.. I am noticing that.
My feeling is that our media and some of our politicians have simply aped the Dems. I don't think they know why the President is supposedly bad - they just assume that since everyone else says he is bad, he must be! Equally they all parrot about climate change without knowing anything at all about it!
PS: Soros is a tool.
Yes but a tool of whom or what?

PS You aren't really using the quoting mechanism properly, which makes it trickier to reply to you.

David





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We do have Germany controlling us, but do I remember that I campaigned and voted for BREXIT. The EU now is utterly different from the organisation we joined long ago.

As I have said before, the Dems seem to have decayed into a total mess. I certainly wasn't thinking of anything Christian (I don't subscribe to any faith) when I wrote of a possible psychic component.

My feeling is that our media and some of our politicians have simply aped the Dems. I don't think they know why the President is supposedly bad - they just assume that since everyone else says he is bad, he must be! Equally they all parrot about climate change without knowing anything at all about it!

Yes but a tool of whom or what?

PS You aren't really using the quoting mechanism properly, which makes it trickier to reply to you.

David
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Hi David, I heard a program last night I thought you might like: https://www.veritasradio.com/guests/2018/07jul/VS-180726-sverstappen.php

The term "tool" in the U.S. means basically he's an idiot. eh, he's also probably a fools tool. Don't know, just know he's a nit & he has caused a lot of trouble all over the world.

Have a great day.

PS: President Trump is bad to the status quo because he isn't a "player". Our gov. has been run by lobbyist for years & years. Our agencies have been overrun with paid company men (hence you now can't always believe what these agencies say).

One of the main reasons I did vote for him (besides Clinton is a shape shifting reptilian < that's a joke/but might be TRUE)... anyway, the reason Trump is hated by MSM is because he wasn't controlled by "lobbyist". Our country has become the best government money can buy.

**MSM= main-stream media.
 
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