Kevin Day, Navy UFO Contact After-Effects |403|

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Kevin Day, Navy UFO Contact After-Effects |403|
by Alex Tsakiris | Feb 19 | Others, Skepticism, Spirituality
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Kevin Day, was a TOPGUN Navy Air Controller when he was thrust into one of the biggest UFO events in history.

photo by: Skeptiko
Sunday, November 14th, 2004, morning. The Nimitz deck crews busy launching F/A-18F Super Hornets helicopters and E-2 Hawkeye electronic warfare planes. The mission – simulated air defense…
That’s a clip from the very excellent documentary that you’ll find on YouTube, The Nimitz Encounters, and we’ll get back to that in a minute. But first…
First this morning we’re going to be talking to Leslie Kean, New York Times reporter who first reported on the Navy departments release of UFO footage that really changed the world. It was one of history’s most important stories and I’m very proud…
Now, that was Whitley Strieber interviewing, of course, Leslie Kean who you’ve heard on this show who broke the New York Times story, the obvious, at least to me, politically controlled PSYOP release of UFO information. But I want to play that clip because Whitley does put it in perspective. This is the biggest news story ever and if Whitley’s too [alt-alt 00:01:13] media for you, go to Fox News.
UFOs have captivated the public interest for decades, but they’ve always been dismissed, including by me, as the province of whackos, but that is changing, thanks to some remarkable video tape and first-hand accounts from very sober people who are trained to identify aircraft. These are aircraft apparently that are moving in ways that appear to violate physics, that are flying very differently from any aircraft ever observed and way faster than any plane that we know any foreign country has. What is this?
That’s of course Tucker Carlson doing a mea culpa on the UFO thing.
So, the point being, how could this have happened right under our noses, right during our watch and why do so many people still not get it? Well, some people get it.
Nearby, the guided missile cruisers USS Princeton has been tracking unknown aircraft that appear and disappear from her sophisticated Aegis radar screens. The SPY-1 radar is one of the most advanced sensors ever deployed. The Princeton’s main role is air defense of the Strike Group for the past few days. Senior Chief, Kevin Day, has noticed these peculiar craft appearing on his radar screen, and some…
That’s today’s guest, Kevin Day (author of Sailor’s Anthology). 20-year Navy veteran and TopGun Intercept Controller who was drawn right in the middle of not only one of the [biggest UFO disclosure events in history], but into the middle of a UFO contact experience.
Kevin Day: After this now famous Commander Fravor intercept happened, I went back up into combat and I found one of these things on the radar and I got the relative bearing from the ship. I went up topside and I looked at that thing through the Big Eye binoculars and I think that’s the moment, if I had to say there was a moment, that was probably it, when I saw it with my eyeball. Whatever affected me happened then.
I mean, when Chakataya [sp] told me that I was incredibly important to what’s about to happen, I didn’t know what to think.

This is a multi-layered, multi-dimensional, multi-tunnels down the rabbit hole adventure. I’m tempted to try and deconstruct it and pull it all apart, but it’s another one of those where I probably need to just let it go and see where you take it.
Stick around for my interview with Kevin Day.
 
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https://skeptiko.com/kevin-day-navy-ufo-contact-after-effects-403/
Kevin Day: I think it’s entirely possible. It’s the one thing that makes sense to me. Let’s assume the case, yeah, the government does know about this or there’s a faction of the government that’s been dealing with this for 75 years or more than that. I have to think that maybe they have damn good reasons for not letting this come out. What those reasons are, I don’t know, I just think it’s possible. I can’t think of any other reason why they wouldn’t want it to come out, because the technology is pretty promising, it could solve our energy problems, for example, worldwide.
There are a lot of reasons the government might try to keep the alien presence secret...

http://ncu9nc.blogspot.com/2012/07/ufo-secrecy-and-spirituality.html
  • Some aliens seem to be abducting people and there is nothing the government or military can do to stop it. If acknowledged by the government, this could cause panic, and make the government look incompetent. Simply admitting the existence of aliens might not be too disturbing, but saying that some aliens are abducting people and hybridizing with them (raping them), could be very disturbing to many people. Some of the things the abductees have said they were told by the aliens, (imminent wars, disasters, alien invasions that never seem to really happen) if given credence by governmental acknowledgment of an alien presence, could cause panic.

  • It is rumored that the US government (President Eisenhower) made an agreement with some of the aliens to receive advanced alien technology in exchange for permission to carry out abductions. Since there was no way to stop the abductions it seems to be more of a surrender than a pact. If true, this would be a huge embarrassment if it become public knowledge.

  • People who claim contact with aliens consistently report alien predictions of imminent natural disasters, wars, and alien invasions that never seem to occur. If the aliens could make these predictions in person to all of humanity, it could cause world wide panic and social disruptions.

  • Some aliens may look just like humans. This could lead to chaotic situations where some humans claim to be aliens and take advantage of the fear and gullibility of other people. Or, it could lead situations where some humans are accused of being aliens and are persecuted. It also creates the possibility that the highest levels of the government are infiltrated by aliens. It would be very embarrassing for the government to have to admit this as a possibility or a fact.

  • The technology the UFOs use for propulsion seems to be capable of speeds reaching thousands of miles an hour in the atmosphere without subjecting interior of the craft to extremely high acceleration forces. This technology might be theoretically obscure but it might not be difficult to construct with currently available materials. If this was acknowledged by the government, it could encourage all sorts of dangerous people (national governments and private individuals) to attempt to discover this means of propulsion. That could lead to the development of weapons like extremely fast missiles (long range or short range) that are impossible to defend against. The power source for the alien craft might also be adapted to produce a warhead for these missiles of unimaginable power. [ Imagine the problems that would be caused by a faster than light missile with a free energy warhead]

  • The technology used to power the alien crafts, if made available to the public could disrupt our fossil fuel based economy. Obviously the current power structure doesn't want to change the status quo. But less obviously, if all the people currently employed in energy industries became unemployed, they would stop buying things and stop paying taxes until they found new jobs. The ripple effects could cause a deep recession or world wide economic depression. The new alien technology could ultimately have huge economic benefits and be good for society in the long run, but the transition from fossil fuels could be chaotic and traumatic for many people.

  • When secret military aircraft are accidentally observed by the public, the credibility of those observations can be damaged by misinformation ridiculing the observations as absurd reports of UFOs. Thus it would be harder to keep new and advanced military craft secret if UFOs were no longer a subject of ridicule.

  • The aliens don't use money. If a technologically superior civilization was known to not use money, people all over the world would question the current economic system on earth. If people demanded we organize the world economy on the same lines as the aliens organize theirs, it would threaten the power of the current elite which depends on monetary wealth for maintaining its power and luxurious lifestyle. The powerful will do what is necessary to maintain the current economic system.

  • The aliens may tell us the truth about the human soul or spirit and the truth about the history of human evolution and religion. This may contradict popular religions and scientific theories and could upset many people. Also, some people in the government might not believe this truth and consider the aliens to be demonic deceivers who should not be allowed to propagate heresy to the public.

  • The aliens may want to avoid disrupting the current cultures on earth. In the past, contact with European explorers led to the destruction of native cultures all over the world. Some aliens may want to avoid something similar and some aliens might be working to keep their presence secret. For reasons that might be ethical or simply selfish some aliens may want to preserve the current cultures on earth. The government may agree that there is a danger to earth culture and cooperate in keeping the alien presence secret.

  • If the presence of aliens is disclosed, no matter what the true alien agenda is (and there may be different groups of aliens with different agendas), some people will believe what the aliens say and some will not believe what they say. Some people will believe what the government says about the aliens, some people will not believe what the government says. Some people will benefit from the changes the aliens bring about, some people will find their own interests are harmed by those changes. No matter what the alien agenda is, it has the potential to cause intense social disruption. This could lead to fracturing of society into different factions and could lead to massive protests, boycotts, or other forms of resistance against governments, and could have significant effect on the world economy. Many people might feel a greater allegiance and loyalty to the aliens than to the human governments. Certain and factual knowledge of the alien presence is a grave danger to the status quo. Those in power benefit from the status quo and will resist change.

  • Those people responsible for suppressing information about aliens may have committed crimes or violations of the US constitution in order to keep that information secret. They will be reluctant to divulge what has been going on because they could face criminal charges.
 
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People have been saying we are going to find out the truth about the UFO's "real soon" for almost 70 years now. I would like to know why I should believe Kevin when so many others were premature.

Someone or other has been claiming disclosure is imminent since at least 1950 when Donald Keyhoe published The Flying Saucers Are Real

http://manybooks.net/titles/keyhoedoetext04tfsar10.html
The Flying Saucers Are Real
by Donald Keyhoe
...
I believe that the Air Force statements, contradictory as they appear, are part of an intricate program to
prepare America--and the world--for the secret of the disks.​

I don't dispute the fact of the UFO phenomenon, it has been verified by astronauts and high ranking government and military officials:

http://ncu9nc.blogspot.com/p/articles-and-links-arranged-by-subject.html#articles_by_subject_ufo

http://ncu9nc.blogspot.com/2013/04/astronauts-say-ufos-are-real.html
This excerpt from The Enduring Enigma of the UFO by Dean Radin quotes astronauts saying UFOs are real:

Apollo 14 astronaut Edgar Mitchell repeatedly has said that high-ranking military officers have privately admitted that for many decades factions of the U.S. government have been aware that UFOs and alien technology are real. Many other astronauts have provided corroborating statements. Mercury astronaut Scott Carpenter photographed a UFO while in orbit on May 24, 1962, later saying, “At no time when the astronauts were in space were they alone. There was a constant surveillance by UFOs.” In 1985, Mercury and Gemini astronaut Gordon Cooper, in an address to the United Nations, said: “I believe that these extraterrestrial vehicles and their crews are visiting this planet from other planets . . . For many years, I have lived with a secret, in a secrecy imposed on all specialists and astronauts. I can now reveal that every day, in the United States, our radar instruments capture objects of form and composition unknown to us. And there are thousands of witness reports and a quantity of documents to prove this, but nobody wants to make them public.” Such statements are not limited to U.S. astronauts. In 1979, Russian cosmonaut Victor Afanasyevcommented on a UFO he saw while en route to the Solyut 6 space station: “It followed us during half of our orbit . . . It was an engineered structure, made from some type of metal, approximately 40 meters long with inner hulls.” —DR​
Astronaut Deke Slaton described an encounter with a UFO while he was flying a military plane.
As I closed on this thing, it looked like a weather balloon and that's what I presumed it was. I had plenty of gas and time so I decided I'd just come back around and make make a pass on it. I got around where I should have been coming back on this thing all of a sudden it didn't look like a balloon anymore. It looked like a saucer sitting on edge about a 45 degree angle. I didn't have any gun camera film on board unfortunately or I'd a shot some pictures of it. About that time I guess, whatever it was, for whatever reason, it took off climbing at about a 45 degree angle and and just accelerated and disappeared. I obviously couldn't follow it with an old piston engine fighter so I turned around went home.​
http://ncu9nc.blogspot.com/2013/09/high-ranking-government-and-military.html
High ranking government and military officials have said that UFOs are extraterrestrial craft visiting the earth.

  • Paul Hellyer Minister of Defense for Canada believes four species of aliens have been visiting the earth for thousands of years.
  • Admiral Hellenkoetter Director CIA: "These UFOs are interplanetary devices systematically observing the earth..."
  • Lord Hill-Norton, Chief of Defense Staff, Ministry of Defense, Great Britain: "The evidence that there are objects which have been seen in our atmosphere, and even on terra firma, that cannot be accounted for either as man-made objects or as any physical force or effect known to our scientists seems to me to be overwhelming…"
  • President Harry S. Truman: "I can assure you that flying saucers, given that they exist, are not constructed by any power on earth."
  • Air Chief Marshal Lord Dowding, Commander-in-Chief of RAF Fighter Command: "... [UFOs] are not manufactured by any nation on earth. I can therefore see no alternative to accepting the theory that they come from some extraterrestrial source."
  • Nick Pope, British Ministry of Defense: "... intelligent extraterrestrials are visiting Earth."
  • H. Marshall Chadwell CIA Director of Scientific Intelligence: "Sightings of unexplained objects at great altitudes and traveling at high speeds in the vicinity of major U.S. defense installations are of such nature that they are not attributable to natural phenomena or known types of aerial vehicles."
  • A report in the FBI archives vault.fbi.gov reports that a US Air Force investigator stated in 1950 that three flying saucers had been recovered. They were 50 feet in diameter with raised centers and each was occupied by three human shaped bodies each approximately 3 feet tall.

References

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UFOs and Defense: What Should We Prepare For? The COMETA report produced by the Institute of Advanced Studies for National Defense in France. Part III concludes: "A single hypothesis sufficiently takes into account the facts and, for the most part, only calls for present-day science. It is the hypothesis of extraterrestrial visitors."
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_cometareport01.htm

Unidentified Flying Objects Briefing Document The Best Available Evidence by Don Berliner with Marie Galbraith Antonio Huneeus, Presented by CUFONS, FUFOR, MUFON December 1995
http://www.openminds.tv/wp-content/uploads/Rockefeller-Briefing-Document.pdf
 
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Does the U.S. government have SPECIAL knowledge which other governments do not have concerning the UFO topic? They sure behave a lot different and a LOT more strangely towards the topic than other governments do. It’s hard to know what to make of this strange behavior. A lot of people, Grant Cameron included, feel that this is sort of a “controlled disclosure.” That is, a slow and deliberate disclosure of pertinent information concerning the validity of the UFO phenomenon.

It’s a confusing thing to ponder. Why would the US government alone have this knowledge? Or, perhaps they are not alone, but then the other countries in the know are also involved in the coverup, but then they don’t act as strangely as the US government does towards the topic.
 
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Does the U.S. government have SPECIAL knowledge which other governments do not have concerning the UFO topic? They sure behave a lot different and a LOT more strangely towards the topic than other governments do. It’s hard to know what to make of this strange behavior. A lot of people, Grant Cameron included, feel that this is sort of a “controlled disclosure.” That is, a slow and deliberate disclosure of pertinent information concerning the validity of the UFO phenomenon.

It’s a confusing thing to ponder. Why would the US government alone have this knowledge? Or, perhaps they are not alone, but then the other countries in the know are also involved in the coverup, but then they don’t act as strangely as the US government does towards the topic.
Are you sure the US policy is different? If the other governments said they had contacts with aliens and put them on TV, I would be sure they had a different policy. Sometimes to keep something secret you let out a little bit of truth and people assume that is everything. Maybe the other governments know more than they are saying. The government officials in any given country who make public statements about UFO's are not necessarily the ones in their government who really know the most.

One method of keeping people confused and powerless is to give mixed messages. That way everyone believes what they want (due to confirmation bias) and they spend their time arguing with each other instead of demanding answers from the government.
 
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When he told them, "I got the long look down the nose from my family."

Kevin experienced both PTSD as well as a cognitive boost. Some of his shipmates he discovered, suffered similarly.

Kevin was able to apply his enhanced skills to ascertain the geological presence of a layer of ancient seabed of rare-earth/refractory/precious metals on his family's mineral claim.

Kevin stepped forward to talk about it. The effects of this observation are real. You are changed as a person, by
1. The technology itself???​
2. The shock of the paradigm shattering observations???​
3. The Intelligences behind the phenomenon themselves???​

In reality it does not matter, the effects change you physically and mentally.

Men approached him to use his mining claim for Spec Ops training. Kevin became suspicious but took them up there anyway. But they were visiting Kevin about the UAP phenomenon. They turned out to be part of the AATIP program (?). They told Kevin that 'he was incredibly important to what was about to happen.'

Kevin Day references the idea brought up inside the Vallée-Davis High Strangeness Physics model, that additional unanticipated effects occur commensurate with UAP's and other similar phenomena. Whatever affected him happened when he looked at the object visually through the ship's 'big-eyes' (very powerful binoculars which are mounted on a stanchion, usually on the bridge or signal bridge of the ship).

100 knots of speed at angels 28,000 ft - is ODD... very odd.... Cannot be birds, jets, helicopters, balloons, meteors, drones, rockets, missiles, parachutes, clouds, thermals - as NONE of them fly in this manner. A glider or Predator or RQ-4 Global Hawk can do this, but cannot descend to sea level in seconds thereafter (not to mention the fact that these craft are almost 'all wing' and could never be shaped like a tic-tac).

Kevin wants to convince people that this really happened, and if you encounter this yourself - expect to be changed in fundamental ways.

Kevin will be at UFO MegaCon:
https://ufomegacon.com/ 25 - 30 March Laughlin NV Aquarius Hotel Reservation Number – 1-800-662-5825

Thanks Kevin and Alex ;;/?
 
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When he told them, "I got the long look down the nose from my family."

Kevin experienced both PTSD as well as a cognitive boost. Some of his shipmates he discovered, suffered similarly.

Kevin was able to apply his enhanced skills to ascertain the geological presence of a layer of ancient seabed of rare-earth/refractory/precious metals on his family's mineral claim.

Kevin stepped forward to talk about it. The effects of this observation are real. You are changed as a person, by
1. The technology itself???​
2. The shock of the paradigm shattering observations???​
3. The Intelligences behind the phenomenon themselves???​

In reality it does not matter, the effects change you physically and mentally.

Men approached him to use his mining claim for Spec Ops training. Kevin became suspicious but took them up there anyway. But they were visiting Kevin about the UAP phenomenon. They turned out to be part of the AATIP program (?). They told Kevin that 'he was incredibly important to what was about to happen.'

Kevin Day references the idea brought up inside the Vallée-Davis High Strangeness Physics model, that additional unanticipated effects occur commensurate with UAP's and other similar phenomena. Whatever affected him happened when he looked at the object visually through the ship's 'big-eyes' (very powerful binoculars which are mounted on a stanchion, usually on the bridge or signal bridge of the ship).

100 knots of speed at angels 28,000 ft - is ODD... very odd.... Cannot be birds, jets, helicopters, balloons, meteors, drones, rockets, missiles, parachutes, clouds, thermals - as NONE of them fly in this manner. A glider or Predator or RQ-4 Global Hawk can do this, but cannot descend to sea level in seconds thereafter (not to mention the fact that these craft are almost 'all wing' and could never be shaped like a tic-tac).

Kevin wants to convince people that this really happened, and if you encounter this yourself - expect to be changed in fundamental ways.

Kevin will be at UFO MegaCon:
https://ufomegacon.com/ 25 - 30 March Laughlin NV Aquarius Hotel Reservation Number – 1-800-662-5825

Thanks Kevin and Alex ;;/?
thx for this great summary. more re Valle Davis effects:
http://ufoupdateslist.com/2003/nov/m07-015.shtml

Jacques F. Vallee and Eric W. Davis
National Institute for Discovery Science
Las Vegas, Nevada


Abstract

The main argument presented in this paper is that continuing
study of unidentified aerial phenomena ("UAP"), including
"apparitions" of a religious or spiritual nature, may offer an
existence theorem for new models of physical reality.

The current SETI paradigm and its "assumption of mediocrity"
place restrictions on forms of non-human intelligence that may
be researched in our environment.

A similar bias exists in the ufologists' often-stated hypothesis
that UAP, if real, must represent space visitors.

Observing that both models are biased by anthropomorphism, the
authors attempt to clarify the issues surrounding "high
strangeness" observations by distinguishing six layers of
information that can be derived from anomalous events, namely

(1) physical manifestations,
(2) anti-physical effects,
(3) psychological factors,
(4) physiological factors,
(5) psychic effects and
(6) cultural effects.

In a further step they propose a framework for scientific
analysis of unidentified phenomena that takes into account the
incommensurability problem.
 
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Kevin stepped forward to talk about it. The effects of this observation are real. You are changed as a person, by
1. The technology itself???​
2. The shock of the paradigm shattering observations???​
3. The Intelligences behind the phenomenon themselves???​
I don't know, but I get the sense that we may be looking at several different phenomenon related to contact: screen memories, experimentation effects (rats get harmed sometimes), spiritually transformative experiences, alien PTSD, and a bunch of other stuff. we're just shooting in the dark given how little research has been done.
 
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Here's a link to Kevin's book on issuu.com, where it's free and you don't have to sign up to read it.

https://issuu.com/kevinmday/docs/sailors_anthology_book_i_web_1_version

I thought I heard Kevin say he wasn't interest in UFO stuff until the last couple years. Maybe I misunderstood that. The story The See'r involves remote viewing, quantum effects, and UFO exopolitics material.

Regarding the interview, I was hoping for more about Chakatay and Forrest. Bummer that the skype feed cut out like that. Seems like a super interesting part of the story. Kevin, can you describe more about what your conversations with those guys were like and what you figure they were trying to do? I see in your pdf file that they were claiming to be pot-growers to help fund the fight against the jihad? Can you explain more what they meant by that?

By the way, Kevin, thanks for coming on Skeptiko and thanks for the work you're doing. You seem like you're coming at this from a place of good intentions and that's really decent and honorable of you to do. I think it takes a lot of courage to do what you're doing.
 
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I do not know who they were. I now know why they found me but, I do not know who sent them.
This happened to me too Kevin, as Officer of the Deck and AAW on an Aegis ship. Both Visual and search and fire control radar tracked. No IFF, and went berserk when it was painted with the missile FCS. The visual was the strange part, I saw it come into the MEZ visually on the bridge - and caught my mind trying to erase the event. Fortunately the other watchstanders saw it as well.

Strange that it knew it was being painted with a FCS Radar, but did not appear to know that it was outside the SM-2/ER's throw range.... I guess its TAO was not up on his American Missile Systems Specs... ha!

Rolled back the tapes in CIC and followed the whole scenario later 5 am that morning -
 
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Who were the men who visited his mining claim; Forest & Shokatay?
I agree
Forrest, I get, the other name no,does anybody have any idea as to its origin?seems a strange appendage esp for somebody who probably isnt
using their own name anyway.I remember listerning to Derren Brown talking about how he avoided getting the crap beaten out of himself by using
a hypnotic technique of introducing nonsense as a statement of fact ,to get an in to somebody's consciousness.
This is done all the time ie 9/11 and freefall of the towers,3rd building coming down etc
Of course it might just be nothing.
 
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This happened to me too Kevin, as Officer of the Deck and AAW on an Aegis ship. Both Visual and search and fire control radar tracked. No IFF, and went berserk when it was painted with the missile FCS. The visual was the strange part, I saw it come into the MEZ visually on the bridge - and caught my mind trying to erase the event. Fortunately the other watchstanders saw it as well.

Strange that it knew it was being painted with a FCS Radar, but did not appear to know that it was outside the SM-2/ER's throw range.... I guess its TAO was not up on his American Missile Systems Specs... ha!

Rolled back the tapes in CIC and followed the whole scenario later 5 am that morning -
Im glad to report that after 30 plus years in the Merchant navy on almost every ocean I havnt seen any UFOs, though admitidly a fair portion of that
was probably assisted by the amnesic effects of ethanol. There seems to be some attraction to weaponry by these flying friends.
Some of my shipmates could well have been aliens though (joking...sort of).
 
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No offense to Kevin Day, and I could be totally wrong of course, but I don't think he was experiencing PTSD as it is normally clinically defined. In my humble opinion Kevin experienced two major events that fundamentally altered the way he assembled the world. 1. He had been a sailor and that ended. 2. Simultaneous to the end of a way of life as a sailor, he witnessed UFOs.

Furthermore, I don't think the UFOs somehow gifted him with enhanced intelligence or other abilities. Rather, when the concepts and paradigms that we've pretty much hard wired to define how the world works, who we are, etc. break down, a new world and a new person emerges. Or, in other words we are how we are because we maintain a thought dialogue that keeps us that way. Ditto how the world works, what it looks like, what it means, etc. When something interrupts that dialogue we can ignore it and continue as programmed or we can look at it and roll with the ramifications of doing so - depression is a natural negative side effect (you're leaving everything familiar behind, for ever). Insanity can occur in less stable/solid individuals. On the positive side, once one gets past the negative effects, the positive aspects, the new self that emerges into a new world, can much more brightly reflect the totality of oneself. Healings can occur; even "miracles". Anything is possible once one leaves the little island that one has been subconsciously/unconsciously programmed to inhabit; so much essential energy is released that had been used to maintain an arbitrary perception of the world and one's self.

Basically, Kevin gifted himself with the enhanced abilities. They were always a potential within him (as they are within all of us). He just didn't know it because he had been programmed to live in a world and a be a person where such abilities are not known. The twin shock of leaving the Navy and seeing undeniable UFO phenomena caused the programming to break down. As a result, some of the potentials of the infinite self in an infinite universe emerged.

Hats off to Kevin for facing what he experienced head-on as opposed to ignoring and continuing to live on the little island. That takes courage and strength and a true warrior spirit.
 
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Eric, thank you very much for this post. And I agree with everything you wrote --- although the brave warrior hero part might be a bit of a stretch. I persisted for many years without a map or any guidance to follow, that's true, but likely because of my strong moral compass. And an overwhelming need to do the right thing. I don't know what causes the Vallee-Davis human post-effects from encounter with UAP. I do know the effects are quite real however. And quite insidious if you have no idea what is happening to you. As you point out, the experience could very easily drive a person insane.

My empathy exploded and I began helping others and causes even to my own detriment. I became more prescient and I somehow knew things that were about to happen --- even now, what I think about a lot tends to happen somehow. I became obsessed with the idea of finding the source of gold in the Kalmiopsis Wilderness. I was on a mission and 'the way' revealed itself to me in ways described by Dr. Diana Pasulka in her new book, American Cosmic. I found the source too --- although my family will never mine the deposits because they exist in one of the most rare and sensitive environments on the planet --- the Josephine Ophiolite. I became spiritual in a way I never imagined possible for me --- the gratitude for my life and my creator that I feel so strongly is often so overwhelming that I simply cry tears of thanks. The life in me in those moments so powerful. Physical changes too. I can do things athletically today, basketball, golf, darts, etc. that I was never able to do when younger.

PTSD? More likely PESD --- post encounter stress disorder. Just as life changing and every bit as debilitating because of the enigma, the missing 'why?' And so now, I'm on a new mission. I will help in preparing my fellow man for what is about to happen to them. My message? You are about to change too, but, DO NOT BE AFRAID. The real you is about to become reality.
 
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A couple of things came to mind listening to this.

1) Has he revealed any trauma from his time in military service pre-UFO sighting? Anything during childhood?
2) Any missing time episodes in his life?
3) Interesting that he mentioned the amount of UFOs he saw at one time. Fleets like this are common to documented UFO sightings in Mexican ufology and he was in the San Diego region.
4) If I understand his comment about looking at the craft through the binoculars, it sounds like he had a Philip K Dick style V.A.L.I.S download of information.
5) His insistence on mentioning very specific details during this interview (the golf course, how much he made selling his house, etc.) was interesting. They almost came across like screen memories and felt a little shoe horned into the conversation.
6) Very interested in his chat with Dr Diana Walsh Pasulka. She would be an amazing guest on the show to discuss the interesection of technology, religion, and the paranormal. She had a great chat on Radio Misterioso a year ago.
 
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This is an amazing interview. Glad I didn't give up on Skeptiko. Whew!
("You are very important for what's coming -- WHAT'S COMING!?!?!?!??!?)
(Also, did you just get a scoop about a Tom DeLonge documentary that will be shown on mainstream TV? Holy bing-bong!)

Also, unlike Eric, I completely believe that the UFO experience changed his brain. The same thing happened to Travis Walton, same thing happened to Jim Sparks (OMG please interview him... my favorite abductee), and many others - including people caring about environmental protections, synchronicities as he mentioned, residual psychic effects, etc.
 
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