Mark Booth’s view of our secret history looks way beyond churchy Christianity.
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Alex Tsakiris: Today we welcome Mark Booth to Skeptiko. Mark is probably best known as the author of The Secret History of the World, an international bestseller from 2008, that really changed the way we think and talk about esoteric wisdom, secret societies, mystery schools, and it was also a book, I think, that has played a part in weakening the grip of this kind of soul-crushing, scientific materialism that we talk about so much on this show.
Mark, it’s great to have you here, thank so much for joining me.
Mark Booth: I’m so pleased to be on your show, I admire it enormously and I admire your cast of mind. You’re curious about everything, but you don’t want to be stupid, and I think, if there is a God, he doesn’t want us to be stupid. So, that’s a very sensible attitude to take.
Alex Tsakiris: Right-on to that, and in that spirit, I really want to have, what I like to call a level-3 kind of discussion here because level-1 is, as our culture would say, “Why would you listen to Mark Booth? I mean, that’s just ridiculous, don’t even pay any attention.” Then, level-2 is the people who just admire and so greatly are inspired by your work, as they should be, and say, “Yes, we must believe everything that Mark says.” Then, it’s level-3, that we don’t have enough of, where it says, “Gee, this a wonderful dialogue to engage in.”
Here is someone I truly believe is a hero, to have stepped forward and fought these tremendous cultural forces that you just have stacked yourself against, but let’s dig into it a little bit further. That’s my speech, that’s where we’re going to go, so if any time you think I’m poking you too hard, let me know. We need to have that next level of discussion.
Anytime somebody says, “every time you look into the UFO thing you find that all the people with the experiences are full of and are making stuff up”, you rest assured that they haven’t even begun investigating the phenomenon. Either that, or the phenomenon is incompatible with their beliefs, or they don’t want to believe it. And if one has never heard of Jacques Vallee, you can easily confirm your suspicion.
It took Roman goverment several centuries to co-opt Christianity and turn it into authoritarian imperial cult of Catholicism. Before it, it was a genuine liberation and innovation movement, a main threat to the imperial power, and thus a subject of intense repression.
It took American government several decades to co-opt Libertarian Left of 1960s - 1970s and turn it into authoritarian imperial cult of "politically correct" SJWism. Before it, it was a genuine liberation and innovation movement, a main threat to the imperial power, and thus a subject of intense repression.
Genuine liberation and innovation movements, such as Christianity or counter-cultural uprising of the mid-20th century, are never work of some small bunch of elite conspirators, but an authentic work of people's will and vision.
Understandably, elite conspirators would always do their worst to discredit, disrupt and destroy such movements - and, when it fails, to bribe them, manipulate them, institutionalise them and to turn them into yet another form of support for their power, wealth and fame.
Yet it always takes them a lot of time to achieve their goals - and before they succeed, such movements always produce some real, enduring change in society, a change that was not a part of elite conspirators' plans. To the contrary, these are elite conspirators who had to adjust and rewrite their plans to survive yet another actual uprising against them, to adopt to the new situation and to use it for their own benefit.
Some day they will fail to adopt, and their reign will end.
P.S. It is always an important part of the elite conspirators' discreditation work to try to persuade people that the protest and resistance movement was their work from the very start, and therefore there is no sense to participate in any protest or resistance.
P.P.S. Nothing work best for support of the elite conspirators' reign than the persuation of the population that their power is superhuman in its undefeatable greatness, that they are some kind of evil mages commanding demonic forces, knowing and controlling everything, etc.
While, in fact, their power is largely based on fabrication of illusions.
Agreed. Their ability to create seems very limited, forcing them to play a perpetual game of wack-a-mole in their attempt to stop our collective evolution. They never create movements that truly inspire, but can only co-opt legitimate ones.