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This post is mostly directed to AryaS.

Re the Pizzagate thread: I started off agreeing with David B that Alex ought to have provided more proof. Then, like David B, some of the evidence started to sink in. I mean, honestly, who could take literally a quote like (paraphrased) "We only have one slice of pizza, and want to know how many people we need to divide it up amongst". Seriously? You don't have enough money to buy more than a single slice of pizza? Clearly, this is some sort of code, and since the codewords are known to be paedophilic, it doesn't take much to get to ... well, Pizzagate. Also, some of the associated artwork is blatantly paedophilic.

So, yes, I'm willing to accept that there might be connections amongst the dots here. And of course, this is nothing new: high-level paedophilia has a precedent.

So, what's my point? It is that not all of the folks who founded a new forum when Alex decided to delete most of our communication platform here are deniers of high-level paedophilia, nor even of the possibility that Pizzagate is legit.

And secondarily: that you, AryaS, are very welcome on the new forum. There is an ongoing thread where members are discussing the role to be played by politics / conspiracy theories on the new forum, and your voice would be valued there!
 
You're accusing innocent folk
Good lord.

And this is a version of "pouncing" on someone by implying they're so lacking in scruples as to carelessly accuse someone of something so serious . . . which is itself careless.

claiming snowflake status
This from the person who accused me of sexism because I said a woman wasn't trustworthy while two men were at least believably not Ill-intentioned. This is one step away from - actually basically the same as - accusing one of the worst thing one can be accused of in today's world: racism. And I don't doubt for a minute if I criticized a black person and not a white, this would be leveled against me. I take that silly SJW-ing crap very serious . . . And consider it very low-minded and petty. Only "snowflakes" do this . . . And really, aside from some possibly equating a right-wing person with a Nazi, is the only time I've seen it here on this forum, ever . . . which is to say, if there's anyone here that's a "snowflake" in my book, it's the one accusing another of just such a thing.
 
This post is mostly directed to AryaS.

Re the Pizzagate thread: I started off agreeing with David B that Alex ought to have provided more proof. Then, like David B, some of the evidence started to sink in. I mean, honestly, who could take literally a quote like (paraphrased) "We only have one slice of pizza, and want to know how many people we need to divide it up amongst". Seriously? You don't have enough money to buy more than a single slice of pizza? Clearly, this is some sort of code, and since the codewords are known to be paedophilic, it doesn't take much to get to ... well, Pizzagate. Also, some of the associated artwork is blatantly paedophilic.

So, yes, I'm willing to accept that there might be connections amongst the dots here. And of course, this is nothing new: high-level paedophilia has a precedent.

So, what's my point? It is that not all of the folks who founded a new forum when Alex decided to delete most of our communication platform here are deniers of high-level paedophilia, nor even of the possibility that Pizzagate is legit.

And secondarily: that you, AryaS, are very welcome on the new forum. There is an ongoing thread where members are discussing the role to be played by politics / conspiracy theories on the new forum, and your voice would be valued there!
I really appreciate your welcoming post, Laird. I've enjoyed many of your posts here on Skeptiko. Thanks.
 
Can you give an example of where you have been 'pounced on' or unfairly challenged? The leader/moderator of the forum is clearly on your side, and has already fired warning shots towards your opponents.

You're accusing innocent folk of peadophilia and simultaneously claiming snowflake status?

Welcome to the forum.
We don't need to make this discussion personal, do we? It would make far more sense to address yourself to some of facts on the pizzagate thread. Clearly you can't legally declare someone guilty of pedophilia without a trial, but the whole point of that discussion is that many people think there are some serious questions to be asked.

David
 
They are innocent , until proven guilty, and we're a long way from that.




This from the person who accused me of sexism because I said a woman wasn't trustworthy while two men were at least believably not Ill-intentioned. This is one step away from - actually basically the same as - accusing one of the worst thing one can be accused of in today's world: racism. And I don't doubt for a minute if I criticized a black person and not a white, this would be leveled against me. I take that silly SJW-ing crap very serious . . . And consider it very low-minded and petty. Only "snowflakes" do this . . . And really, aside from some possibly equating a right-wing person with a Nazi, is the only time I've seen it here on this forum, ever . . . which is to say, if there's anyone here that's a "snowflake" in my book, it's the one accusing another of just such a thing.
I've no idea what you're talking about here.
 
We don't need to make this discussion personal, do we? It would make far more sense to address yourself to some of facts on the pizzagate thread. Clearly you can't legally declare someone guilty of pedophilia without a trial, but the whole point of that discussion is that many people think there are some serious questions to be asked.

David
I tried asking for "facts" in the pizzagate thread and got served some pretty thin gruel.
 
I suppose it is too late to suggest we move back to forum.mind-energy.net. Jacob has had it too easy - the wandering tribe could return and drive him nuts again.
 
I suppose it is too late to suggest we move back to forum.mind-energy.net. Jacob has had it too easy - the wandering tribe could return and drive him nuts again.
Haven't we just started a new, community-driven forum, Psience Quest? A lot of effort has already been invested into it. And it has a good potential to develop.

Well, I'm going to invest my own effort in it, for sure - now I'm preparing the first Psience Quest interview, the one with Titus Rivas.
 
Haven't we just started a new, community-driven forum, Psience Quest? A lot of effort has already been invested into it. And it has a good potential to develop.

Well, I'm going to invest my own effort in it, for sure - now I'm preparing the first Psience Quest interview, the one with Titus Rivas.
When I wrote "I suppose it's too late...", I thought it would be pretty clear that I meant it was too late for us to migrate back.


http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Too+Late
Too late
Also found in: Acronyms.

after the proper or available time; when the time or opportunity is past.



See also: Late​
 
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David,

Can you move the intelligent design thread into consciousness and science forum? Right now it is in other stuff.

http://www.skeptiko-forum.com/threads/intelligent-design.1228/

And the NDE documentaries thread?
http://www.skeptiko-forum.com/threads/skeptiko-nde-documentaries-thread-and-other-related.136/

(Would you be able to browse through the "other stuff" forum and move over any threads worth saving?)
Done! Note that Intelligent Design appears on page 10 of Consciousness.

Because Alex would like to prune out the political stuff, I am going to remove your new Trump thread. It is a shame, because I thought you posted an excellent video!

David
 
Done! Note that Intelligent Design appears on page 10 of Consciousness.

Because Alex would like to prune out the political stuff, I am going to remove your new Trump thread. It is a shame, because I thought you posted an excellent video!

David
David,

Can you remind me which video that was?

Thanks.
 
David,

Can you remind me which video that was?

Thanks.
It was a video in which the President was attacking the press for demanding instant condemnation of one side in Charlottesville - before even it was clear what had happened - and ignoring the fact that this was a fight in which both sides were armed with clubs and suchlike. I thought he presented his case very well.

David
 
It was a video in which the President was attacking the press for demanding instant condemnation of one side in Charlottesville - before even it was clear what had happened - and ignoring the fact that this was a fight in which both sides were armed with clubs and suchlike. I thought he presented his case very well.

David

The part under discussion starts at 13:40
also see
https://www.scribd.com/document/356073046/Political-Warfare-NSC-memo
Which explains why Trump's brash speaking style is an offesive weapon against the political correctness thought police and islmaic terrorists wihch have formed an alliance to suppress opposition with political correctness.
 
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I really liked that video - it shows clearly what press harassment the President has to put up with, and how determinedly he put them down. Not one of them seemed to respond to the facts that the President pointed out - they were like a mob.

David
 
But he is more than happy to talk about conspiracy theories? How can you even begin to discuss 9/11 for example without 'political stuff'?
I don't yet know how Alex intends to resolve this - obviously there is something of a contradiction as it stands. My preference would be to see SKEPTIKO focus more on ψ and consciousness (plus related science subjects such as evolution), and exclude politics. That does not mean, of course, that I am not interested in politics, but I don't think the mix works well - politics seems to generate very intense emotions bordering on hatred right now, and I would rather we excluded it from this forum.

David
 
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