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Seriously? This sort of lunacy doesn't help the cause. Really.
I was posting to clarify a point about French grammar.
Seriously? This sort of lunacy doesn't help the cause. Really.
I really don't want to dig back thru that darkness, but you would be doing us all a service if you could make a post cataloging all the art in question and the links/non-links to the parties involved.
any comments on Bob Hamer and his NAMBLA investigation?
My point is not that Occult pedophilia does not exist but rather that this is not it. Every magician with any experience knows who the pedos are and what their set-up is.
exclusively???I can tell you one thing: they are exclusively right-wing or Libertarian and most Occultists know all about them and who they are. Pizzagate is most likely some disinformation from this very demographic.
Alex could have talked to Michael Hughes about what Occultism is.
you have much more confidence in the powers of "magicians" than I do.
exclusively???
No, thank you. I know him from The Secret Sun and I wince when I see his picture/symbol. (Which is weird because I'm friendly as hell. I like almost everybody?) He may be here as well, whatever. I get a very bad vibe from him. He was sheep-herding people about how silly it was to believe Pizzagate and just left a wake of negative energy all over the place. No matter what you think of the subject or whether it is true or not, his approach was not helpful. Neither was the magic guy that wrote for Disinformation. I forgot his name, I think I defriended him.
funny you should say as that was was my initial thought. I wanted to present a broader perspective on the occult and still deal with the Pizzagate stuff. I interviewed Michael for Skeptiko, but the interview was a disaster and I decided not to publish it (a first).No, thank you. I know him from The Secret Sun and I wince when I see his picture/symbol. (Which is weird because I'm friendly as hell. I like almost everybody?) He may be here as well, whatever. I get a very bad vibe from him. He was sheep-herding people about how silly it was to believe Pizzagate and just left a wake of negative energy all over the place. No matter what you think of the subject or whether it is true or not, his approach was not helpful. Neither was the magic guy that wrote for Disinformation. I forgot his name, I think I defriended him.
Some people have a religious fervor re politics that's way beyond what I understand. Fanatics/fundamentalists are all similar, regardless of the cause.
I really don't want to dig back thru that darkness, but you would be doing us all a service if you could make a post cataloging all the art in question and the links/non-links to the parties involved.
@Alex I really think you need to try to put together a strong case that Pizzagate is true. I tend to think it is, but clearly a lot of people don't, and I don't think we should promote this without pretty clear evidence. If you can't do that, it might be best to delete this thread and the accompanying podcast.
Now back to you - other than Kim Noble's art, which doesn't seem to be associated with Podesta or Alefantis, what is there?
Just because so much about pedophilia in our cultural institutions is speculative does not mean the topic should be avoided.
Conversely you could make a list of the Occultist opponents of pedophilia. I think you'll find only left-wing ones.
Nice, according to you I'm not an opponent of pedophilia, nor is Gordon White.
I don't know who you are but I have never classed Gordon as right-wing. Perhaps you have some evidence?