I've been saying forever and repeating ad nauseum on this forum that this the wrong way to think about things. It's an old flavor of dualism that is always going to lead into contradictions. Just look at Idealism as explained by Bernardo Kastrup and that is already an entirely different way of looking at things. It also jives up with Indian Philosophy which often holds that matter IS spirit, we just don't recognize it as such. And, there is a vast continuum of increasingly "ethereal" substance between matter and the ultimate ground of all being, or what we might call Spirit or even "God". But, everything is mind, or consciousness, under these views, even matter. Immaterial vs Material is a limiting concept created by the dividing consciousness of the ego that is oblivious to any other aspects of reality other than matter.