Rob and Trish McGregor On Synchronicity and ET |432|

#21
That broadcast was crammed with ideas, I'll obviously have to listen to it again. Maybe long videos could be split into two parts?

Alex, the way you laughed about the idea of astral sex, I had to wonder if you have experienced it (you don't have to reply) :)

I have only experienced lucid dreaming once for a few seconds, so I didn't have time for that! However I have had a couple of very romantic conventional dreams that were obviously heading in that direction, but I awoke too soon.


Did you mean particle/wave?

David
Yes sorry just my imagination adding its own layer.
If you wake too soon to get from the romantic to the sex you probably need to start with the sex and then move to the
romantic, remember its your universe.
 
#22
Here's a weird thing that happened today. I was on my way home from walking a friend's dogs and saw something flappping around in the road just ahead of me. It looked initially like a big butterfly. As I drew nearer, I realized it was a bird that had been hit by a car and it was dying. A small bird. I swerved around it and immediately thought I should go back and rescue it. Or I should go back and run over it so it wouldn't suffer. I did neither. That in itself is a decision. I knew it meant something, that it was one of those warning synchronicities where the natural world speaks to us. I didn't have any idea, though, what the warning was until several hours later when Rob and I did a radio show (NOT THIS ONE!) where the host hadn't read the book and was completely disengaged. In short, the show didn't go well at all and ended 45 minutes early.

If I had gone back and either rescued or run over the bird to put it out of its misery, would things have turned out differently?? That's the trickster question with synchronicities. That's how free will operates, I think, within this matrix where we all live.
 
#23
Yes sorry just my imagination adding its own layer.
If you wake too soon to get from the romantic to the sex you probably need to start with the sex and then move to the
romantic, remember its your universe.
Ah but don't forget, I wasn't lucid in those dreams.

Even so, I would say that sex is better with a bit of build-up!

David
 
#24
Hi Michael
About synchronicity,I cant get over the feeling its the same cause as the pulse/wave change in the double slit experiment.
Look and there is nothing there, look away and all sort of stuff starts happening, one big cosmic joke happening behind our backs.
Its kinda like that - in that there seems to be a capacity to collapse a potential into actuality. Though my experience is that its less a joke than a tool to disrupt our linear thought - priming us to a more metaphysical consciousness.
 
#25
Love this, Michael. I remember writing it up. Thank you also for the recommendation to Alex. His show was one of the best we've had!
Hi Trish and Rob

This is a huge topic and I am so glad you have been able to share your perspective. I recall Alex saying he saw 4:44 on the day of the interview and I know you touched briefly on the 11:11 stuff, but this number synchronicity is widespread and I was hoping it might have been teased out a bit more. I have chronic episodes of 11:11 stringing out over days and then it backs off. I recently had a compelling 22:22 incident. By compelling I mean I was made to look at the clock as a sudden impulse - as if I suddenly need to know the time when it doesn't matter at all [a common experience]. I know other folk have other number combos.

With 11:11 approach and the prospect of 11:11:11:11:11 looming can you take a few moment to riff on the 11:11 phenomenon?

Also, Trish, you mentioned astrology. I have been getting year ahead readings from Kelly Surtees for the past few years. These having been astonishingly accurate as my career has gone through quite a radical shift - and with a series of completely unexpected turns [all for the good]. I used to be into astrology years ago and gave it up because I knew I couldn't dedicate the time demanded to be as competent as I sensed was possible. My readings with Kelly highlighted that foundation of astrology's validity did not lie in the physical placement of planets or stars, but a deeper interplay of consciousness that lies beneath the combination of physical forms, symbolism and the art of interpretation of charts.

So I am wondering how you knit astrology into the overall notion of synchronicity.
 
#26
Here's a weird thing that happened today. I was on my way home from walking a friend's dogs and saw something flappping around in the road just ahead of me. It looked initially like a big butterfly. As I drew nearer, I realized it was a bird that had been hit by a car and it was dying. A small bird. I swerved around it and immediately thought I should go back and rescue it. Or I should go back and run over it so it wouldn't suffer. I did neither. That in itself is a decision. I knew it meant something, that it was one of those warning synchronicities where the natural world speaks to us. I didn't have any idea, though, what the warning was until several hours later when Rob and I did a radio show (NOT THIS ONE!) where the host hadn't read the book and was completely disengaged. In short, the show didn't go well at all and ended 45 minutes early.

If I had gone back and either rescued or run over the bird to put it out of its misery, would things have turned out differently?? That's the trickster question with synchronicities. That's how free will operates, I think, within this matrix where we all live.
I think you illustrate something important in this story. If you have a sense the world talks to you then you can be alert to messages and then to their meaning. This kind of primed sense becomes a habit of mind after a time. You have to be alert to it - and that takes a certain approach to life. The world, our reality, is sentient and we can have an interactive relationship.

Back in the 1970s I was living in Strahan on the west coast of Tasmania. We had been adopted by a dog we called Merlin, He came and went and we were not certain about whether he'd stay around. One day we had to drive down to Hobart and on the way a sudden and strong gust of wind blew debris across the car. I said to my then partner that Merlin had just died. it was just on 4pm. She scorned my assertion. She wasn't good with that kind of stuff. When I got back to Strahan I found he's been shot around that time hassling chooks [chickens for Americans].

I suppose, if we mostly live in cities, we need to attune to a different kind of interplay.
 
#28
Its kinda like that - in that there seems to be a capacity to collapse a potential into actuality. Though my experience is that its less a joke than a tool to disrupt our linear thought - priming us to a more metaphysical consciousness.
Michael
Do you think its a bit like you are given a chance every now and then to 'create' the reality or have a bigger say in these things occasionally?
I think sometimes of various famous figures who could virtually do no wrong and then all of a sudden their star faded and nothing went right,
Napoleon ,Joan of Arc etc.
 
#29
The trickster role: It is so obvious to me that when an OBEr has astral sex he had better be sure of protection from evil spirits, who do circulate in the astral and are able to shape shift and appear to be "of the light."

The mantoid at the end of the bed: this one grabbed my attention. Alex, do you see a potential role for trickster / malicious counterfeiting here??
 
#30
Somebody/some being(s) are obviously trying to get our attention. But why? And why through this bizarre and obscure channel of communication which seems totally bizarre for the simple sake of being bizarre and dumbfounding. It’s hard to decipher and seemingly intentionally crazy.
Have you considered that synchronicities are You trying to get Your attention?
 
#31
Much of it is disturbing, and yet a lot of it seems to be very uplifting according to many experiencers. All in all though, it comes down to people being taken against their will. I would prefer caution in labeling these things as good (even if the abductee has a good experience) with that in mind due to this. It doesn’t mean that it can’t be good in some way we don’t understand. And Some people are even healed of ailments etc. while many others come away spiritually transformed...
Victims, huh? Physical reality happening to you, not through you?
 
#32
Have you considered that synchronicities are You trying to get Your attention?
I Haven’t directly considered it but I’m aware that we are multi-dimensional entities. In that sense, who knows what my “higher self” is up to. There’s lots of possibilities. But I do feel confident that our “guides” contact us through various methods synchronicities. This is based on tons of anectodal information coming from a few different areas of study. Why it needs to be and is generally so cryptic, I can’t be sure of course, but we are behind “the veil” for a reason.

At any rate, as I had mentioned, there’s no other area in the general study of anomalous phenomena which begets strangeness and synchronicity quite like that found within the UFO field. Particularly when it comes to contactees and abductees.

Victims, huh? Physical reality happening to you, not through you?
I don’t understand the difference or what you’re getting at.
 
#36
Michael
Do you think its a bit like you are given a chance every now and then to 'create' the reality or have a bigger say in these things occasionally?
I think sometimes of various famous figures who could virtually do no wrong and then all of a sudden their star faded and nothing went right,
Napoleon ,Joan of Arc etc.
I think more likely some folk are born with inordinate power. Napoleon had tremendous impact before things went bad. A lot of powerful people were problematic on a personal level, and were not uniformly great. Churchill comes readily to mind. It seems the mission and the person are not aligned often. Some fail at the end, others fade and others are sacrificed. Regardless of whether you think Jesus is an historic figure or a myth or fiction, he died young and came to a bad end. But his influence was radical.

My sense is that some folk come here for service and have to sort out personal issues as well. Other folk may come for service and have no real issues to work out. Some folk just have stuff to work out. We are all souls in meat suits doing [or trying to] what is ours to do. Some of us get buzzed by spirit with synchronicities and other stuff as a dialogue or as an attention getter/reminder/confirmer.

The mere fact of persistent and repeated synchronicities - such as 11:11 - indicates to me that spirit engagement is constant - but at different levels. You gotta be aware of something before it is a synchronicity - and that means paying attention and not editing stuff out by being to rational. It is often commented by spirit that really rational intellectual people are the hardest to get through to. That's why a NDE is the only way to get their attention - for some.
 
#37
Regardless of whether you think Jesus is an historic figure or a myth or fiction, he died young and came to a bad end. But his influence was radical.
Just whose influence was radical? Paul maybe? Or the others who attempted to construct a new religion? It doesn't seem that what followed was what Jesus intended at all. Centuries of misrepresentation, definitely.
 
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#38
I think more likely some folk are born with inordinate power. Napoleon had tremendous impact before things went bad. A lot of powerful people were problematic on a personal level, and were not uniformly great. Churchill comes readily to mind. It seems the mission and the person are not aligned often. Some fail at the end, others fade and others are sacrificed. Regardless of whether you think Jesus is an historic figure or a myth or fiction, he died young and came to a bad end. But his influence was radical.

My sense is that some folk come here for service and have to sort out personal issues as well. Other folk may come for service and have no real issues to work out. Some folk just have stuff to work out. We are all souls in meat suits doing [or trying to] what is ours to do. Some of us get buzzed by spirit with synchronicities and other stuff as a dialogue or as an attention getter/reminder/confirmer.

The mere fact of persistent and repeated synchronicities - such as 11:11 - indicates to me that spirit engagement is constant - but at different levels. You gotta be aware of something before it is a synchronicity - and that means paying attention and not editing stuff out by being to rational. It is often commented by spirit that really rational intellectual people are the hardest to get through to. That's why a NDE is the only way to get their attention - for some.
Thanks Michael
Sometimes it seems the more power you get the worse your life becomes but that is not a given as a psychopath like Genghis seemed to
enjoy his power and just let loose. In cases like that it does look a lot like demon possession as an easy explanation. Strangely to me it looks like the more you just get into the moment like a child the more power is produced (living in the moment).
 
#39
woojer said:" Victims, huh? Physical reality happening to you, not through you?

I don’t understand the difference or what you’re getting at.
If you are of the belief that physical reality is created by a source outside of you, then physical reality happens to you. If you are of the belief that physical reality is self-created, then it is happening through you. Better?
 
#40
Just whose influence was radical? Paul maybe? Or the others who attempted to construct a new religion? It doesn't seem that what followed was what Jesus intended at all. Centuries of misrepresentation, definitely.
Sure, Paul kicked things off in the direction that led to where we are now - and things did not turn out the way Jesus intended - if we take the Gospels as evidence of the sole scope of his thought.

But those core ideals have nevertheless informed and transformed many lives for the good. Faux adherents to the faith have cause immense harm. We can arguably credit Jesus for the good [again whether he is historic or fiction] - but not the evils done in his name.

My point was to illustrate that an individual can generate consequences way beyond a single life - for good or ill.
 
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