Syria and US aggression

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  1. Red

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    This is indeed a must see. I have long suspected that things are not as they seem in Syria, or at least, as we are being told by our media. I was first alerted to the incongruencies after talking to Syrian friends a couple of years about their thoughts on Assad. They fully support him and respect his ability to lead. Since then I have looked at Western media claims with much skepticism and watched many Assad interviews.

    The situation really is shameful.

    http://www.theeventchronicle.com/me...m-back-from-syria-the-media-is-lying-to-you/#
     
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    Saw that one! That's what sparked this thread...
     
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    I'm just beginning to watch this. At 15:30 or so, the speaker says the U.S. sanctions against Syria are not reported in the media. Is that really true? I don't know. I just Googled and found this:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...b84201e0645_story.html?utm_term=.62cb5e6d6673
    http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/25/politics/treasury-sanctions-russians-syrians-assad/
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/04/world/middleeast/syria-us-sets-new-sanctions.html

    Maybe underreported?

    I don't know if what these official sites cover the US & EU sanctions described in the presentation:

    https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/Programs/pages/syria.aspx
    http://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/p...nds sanctions against the regime by one year#
     
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    It might have been mentioned...somewhere...once or twice... But it's certainly under reported, and the media doesn't make it plain this is essentially an ongoing act of war against a sovereign nation and is part of a historic pattern of US thuggery and it does not educate anyone on the ramifications to the people of Syria... On the other hand the media reported endlessly on Assad's alleged single usage of chemical weapons which turned out to be a lie.
     
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    false flag
     
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    Over here it was under reported to say the least.
    Admittedly I do not follow much of the mainstream media, at least not as I used to 10 or 15 years ago. A rapid search for those sanctions brought up several blogs and independent sources but only 2 very short articles from two major national newspapers, one from 2011 and another from 2016.

    Ansa, the major news agency in Italy, reported the renewal of the EU sanctions on May 2016 in a similarly short rand ather vague article:
    http://www.ansa.it/europa/notizie/r...sco_6e4848cf-d672-4316-8c63-7a622be25b1b.html

    ... but as far as I can see 99% of the media simply glossed over it. The Vatican radio actually mentioned it. :)
     
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    I have had the uneasy feeling that a lot of the truth about this war, and other US activities is not being reported. Obama seemed like he was going to be a good president at the beginning, but somehow he has been progressively sidelined - goodness knows how.

    The report "What's really happening in Syria?" seems frighteningly likely to be something like the truth because the US and even UK seem to have gradually believed the myth that there are 'moderate' pro-western forces in country after country in the middle east, even when they are obviously nowhere to be found.

    The chemical weapons attack that was blamed on Assad's forces, was also extremely odd because they didn't use enough such weapons to make an appreciable difference - it was just a token use - which was meant to cause Obama to attack the Syrian held areas, as he had said he would do if this happened. With the rise of ISIS, it is clear that the fanatics over there will do anything to win - including releasing chemical weapons on their own side!

    The really curious thing was that the media dodged the obvious questions back then - why use just enough chemical weapons to justify the US to attack their own side? I think our press has become muzzled in an extraordinary way - their lack of curiosity about 'climate change' is just another example of this phenomenon - though how that idiocy fits in to Washington's agenda is less than clear.

    I really hope Trump wins.

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    I agree with all you said, except that list line. That one I do not hope, not in the least. But I also do not hope Hillary wins. I have no hope :D
     
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    Well put it this way, Trump wants to stop all the US interference around the world - isn't that better than handing the baton to Clinton?

    David
     
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    I wouldn't vote Trump for fear of Hillary's victory.
    People over here voted Berlusconi for a similar fear. It didn't work out :)

    I am also not very convinced that Trump intends to do what you said:
    http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-on-foreign-policy/

    Seems like there's not much planned in terms of dealing with Iran, Syria and the like... besides "bombing the shit" out of some of their oil operations...
     
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    http://www.infowars.com/state-dept-threatens-terror-attacks-in-russia-if-moscow-keeps-fighting-isis/


    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-09-29/us-suspend-syria-diplomacy-russia-prepares-military-options

     
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    The rich & powerful on all sides doing their thing... Until the public within the democratic states involved, wake up, and demand to know what is being done in their name, this sort of thing will continue... Change will be difficult.
     
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    I think they are beginning to wake up, but it is difficult when information is veiled with self interest.
     
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    I'm really surprised NBC would allow this to be shown.
     
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    Aye, it's an enormous problem, although only one of many.

    On the bright side, there's a window of opportunity opened up through the Internet, to get easy access to masses of alternative information... and communicate.

    Dunno whether it can compete though, or for how long the window will stay open.
     
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