The Government's UFO Research Program Went Way Further Than We Can Imagine

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This is extremely interesting. Recently it was revealed via a FOIA request that the DIA's research on UFOs was more extensive than we thought. Covered in the documents are the subjects that the DIA was and may still be actively pursuing: antigravity, interdimensional travel, survival of tissue in oxygen-deprived environments, and even travel via Stargate-like portals- also mentioned is zero point energy. I have always heard claims by UFO researchers that all this stuff was real, but failed to believe it. Now I'm not so sure...

https://futurism.com/secretly-funded-research-ufos-wormholes
 
#3
I view the tic tac ufo as either lies or obvious evidence of technology that shouldn't exist according to known physics laws. I recognize many are not lying about embarrassing ufo contact experiences. If lies, why?

There are cynical responses available, no details needed only imagination.

On the other hand, many believe the data is worth pursuing 'seriously'. Obviously they would have much better data -- true PROOF! Why bother unless its real? And so in time people will know if it is -- and so shall we.

But I must add, if after 30 years nothing changes i would believe the lie hypothesis is more likely. Not from say 1% to 99.999% just greater than 1%. It's all about money -- ufo or not (and power of course...)
 
#4
I view the tic tac ufo as either lies or obvious evidence of technology that shouldn't exist according to known physics laws. I recognize many are not lying about embarrassing ufo contact experiences. If lies, why?

There are cynical responses available, no details needed only imagination.

On the other hand, many believe the data is worth pursuing 'seriously'. Obviously they would have much better data -- true PROOF! Why bother unless its real? And so in time people will know if it is -- and so shall we.

But I must add, if after 30 years nothing changes i would believe the lie hypothesis is more likely. Not from say 1% to 99.999% just greater than 1%. It's all about money -- ufo or not (and power of course...)
The thing is that I feel that there is enough evidence now to show that something is going on via declassified documents and the impressive level of radar evidence, documented electronic phenomena, etc. What is incredibly fascinating to me is that there appears to be some kind of link between experiencing these crafts and other paranormal events. For instance, at the Skin Walker ranch, researchers working for Bob Bigelow have reported extremely anomalous activity, including poltergeist phenomena, various types of beasts, etc.. There is also the Point Pleasant case with the Mothman. Interestingly enough, this was also proceeded by UFO sighting and many reported poltergeist-like activity. The aftereffects of supposed contactees are also similar to NDErs, particularly with electronic disturbance and a greater level of communication with the so-called spirit world. Whitley Striber, for instance, if he is to be believed, reported that after his encounter that he had greater communication with his dead wife.

I am more inclined to believe Jacques Vallee's interpretation of UFOs: there is something going on here that is bigger than we can understand or imagine. What it is is anyone's guess. It is a fact, though that militaries all over the world have reported encounters with these crafts.
 
#5
The truth is that while my response is backed up by facts, I might have some personal bias on this subject because I've had two anomalous experiences in my life that I have yet to adequately explain. The first was when I was around 20 years old. I remember I was drifting off to sleep and then I woke up and somehow my consciousness was above the ceiling. I could see my body sleeping from my vantage point and could look all around the room. It only happened once and I have never repeated it again, but it left a lasting impression on me. I thought it was incredibly odd that the person I was looking at was myself.

The other strange experience happened oddly enough during the tail end of a Halloween party. I was with a friend at the time and we were going to drive together to another house party. I remember him telling me that he needed to grab something inside quick. He ran inside and while I was in my car, something very odd happened. Suddenly, the road seemed to fill with this extremely bright light and the next thing I knew I was back in the same position in my car and I got a phone call from my friend, extremely angry at me because he had been waiting at the party for an hour. I told him that was impossible because I just saw him go inside the house and my clock on my car and phone read the same time. He accused me of being on drugs (which I was not), and generally, the relationship became kind of sour at that point. Now I acknowledge that I could have fallen asleep and dreamt the whole thing, but why would my phone have read the same time and my car? This experience still terrifies me and the only logical explanation I can come up with is some kind of wonky coincidence mixed with a hallucination.
 
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The loss of time you experienced is very odd. Unlike the silly 'Mandala effect' I believe your experience. Not so much because you have stated it, but because thousands of people have also stated something similar. Imagine NDE's before the internet! Scientology challeneged the ethics of psychiatrists! They may have had a role in curbing their power, specifically the ability to label someone insane and thus incapable of self care. I imagine the power of psychiatry and psychology circa the 1950 was amazing and frightening.

Luckily a family friend is currently overseer of sorts for my state -- i forget his title.

The only time I experienced an OBE of sorts is within a lucid dream, but that doesn't count. It's also the only time I've experienced loss of time. One minute I am running down my childhood street, then I blink and I find myself looking around the corner where I would have run, with two people that I now recognize as guides telling me I can never go back there (home).

I wouldn't trust hypnotic regression as a technique to recover memory unless its verifiable.
 
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The loss of time you experienced is very odd. Unlike the silly 'Mandala effect' I believe your experience. Not so much because you have stated it, but because thousands of people have also stated something similar. Imagine NDE's before the internet! Scientology challeneged the ethics of psychiatrists! They may have had a role in curbing their power, specifically the ability to label someone insane and thus incapable of self care. I imagine the power of psychiatry and psychology circa the 1950 was amazing and frightening.

Luckily a family friend is currently overseer of sorts for my state -- i forget his title.

The only time I experienced an OBE of sorts is within a lucid dream, but that doesn't count. It's also the only time I've experienced loss of time. One minute I am running down my childhood street, then I blink and I find myself looking around the corner where I would have run, with two people that I now recognize as guides telling me I can never go back there (home).

I wouldn't trust hypnotic regression as a technique to recover memory unless its verifiable.
Right.. I can't make any definite claim as to what I experienced. I just know that it was anomalous. I acknowledge that it could be a spooky coincidence, but it was unlike any I've ever had before. Unfortunately, this was on a dead-end road and there was no one else driving outside or was seen outside, so I only have my own senses to back me up.
 
#8
I personally think it adds to my credibility that I admit that it could be a coincidence. I do know, however, that many people in my life have shared with me anomalous experiences. While I was working on a political campaign last year, the person I was working with shared his NDE with me. When I was dating my girlfriend last year, she mentioned that the house that she had moved to in Oakland, Chicago was formerly owned by a person that was an occultist. She told me that while she was there, her family members both were assaulted by some kind of dark shadow that moved like some kind of fog or smoke. I later collaborated this story with her mother, and she assured me that it was true. It turns out that they found in the house various Satanic iconography, including a pentagram that was under the stairs of the basement.

I also had a childhood friend tell me that he experienced a similar phenomenon in his old house, and his sister and his mother both collaborated his story. He also admitted to me that he had a dream about meeting his next door neighbor before it happened. I don't know how or why, but for some reason, people have always felt comfortable to tell me about the experiences they've had, perhaps because I have a non-judgemental though skeptical attitude towards most things. The other time I had someone mention something strange happening was a caretaker named Kris who worked at a nursing home. She mentioned that various things would happen while she worked her shifts: nothing malevolent, just odd. Objects would move on their own, doors would open and close and sometimes stay open for long periods of time, random drafts of cold air were commonly felt. One time she told me that she saw a waste container move all on its own to the other side of the room.

Needless to say, having had so many people share their experiences with me, I am inclined to believe there is something to them, especially since precognitive dreams seem to be fairly common in the literature.
 
#9
I personally think it adds to my credibility that I admit that it could be a coincidence. <SNIP>

When I was dating my girlfriend last year, she mentioned that the house that she had moved to in Oakland, Chicago was formerly owned by a person that was an occultist. She told me that while she was there, her family members both were assaulted by some kind of dark shadow that moved like some kind of fog or smoke. I later collaborated this story with her mother, and she assured me that it was true. It turns out that they found in the house various Satanic iconography, including a pentagram that was under the stairs of the basement.

I also had a childhood friend tell me that he experienced a similar phenomenon in his old house, and his sister and his mother both collaborated his story. He also admitted to me that he had a dream about meeting his next door neighbor before it happened. <SNIP>

Needless to say, having had so many people share their experiences with me, I am inclined to believe there is something to them, especially since precognitive dreams seem to be fairly common in the literature.
I had a dream where I was aware of my sisters frightened state of mind, but I cannot prove the timing. I am good at finding synchronicities but of course it improves with practice! One that I had *is* a super synchronicity as related by Gary Schwartz. Let's just say the computer isn't supposed to switch tabs and programs on its own, or wake up on thought -- wake up on thought and in context with the sounds directly reflecting those thoughts...three times. And this after I had re installed windows! And it doesn't do it now!

Like holy fuck! I ask the computer (spirit??) 'do that thing with the sound playing when the computer is asleep. I had closed the laptop with a youtube video of an indian quantum physicist. It plays. I listen, then start drifting off. I think, its going to turn off due to my lack of awareness. It does. Ok, i get it. Coincidence. But holy shit! I think, ok turn back on if you are real!

And it does. But it WAS REWOUND to the part I missed! I don't mind if you don't believe. I wouldn't if i were you. BTW I got up and wrote the sequence down on my blackboard. Not in writing on papyrus. We all know the gospels were just made up. (i kid, i kid).

When everyone sees and feels the same thing that is more than odd.
 
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This is extremely interesting. Recently it was revealed via a FOIA request that the DIA's research on UFOs was more extensive than we thought. Covered in the documents are the subjects that the DIA was and may still be actively pursuing: antigravity, interdimensional travel, survival of tissue in oxygen-deprived environments, and even travel via Stargate-like portals- also mentioned is zero point energy. I have always heard claims by UFO researchers that all this stuff was real, but failed to believe it. Now I'm not so sure...

https://futurism.com/secretly-funded-research-ufos-wormholes
great. thx for this. I'm amazed at how ineffective the alt media / UFO community has been with regard to the big-picture implications of this controlled disclosure. it's like watching history unfold in slow motion. I sometimes think these guys must be amazed at how effective their 50 year propaganda /mind control campaign regarding UFOs has been.
 
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