The #QAnon Conciousness Phenomena

Discussion in 'Extended Consciousness & Spirituality' started by Charlie Primero, Jan 6, 2018.

  1. I also think a big part of the problem for the Democrats is that for more than a generation the left has stunted their intellectual development by replacing free speech with political correctness and they no longer have the ability to think rationally. It is not conducive to maintaining the popularity of a movement.

    Mark Lilla, professor of humanities at Columbia University:

    "As a teacher, I am increasingly struck by a difference between my conservative and progressive students. Contrary to the stereotype, the conservatives are far more likely to connect their engagements to a set of political ideas and principles. Young people on the left are much more inclined to say that they are engaged in politics as an X, concerned about other Xs and those issues touching on X-ness. And they are less and less comfortable with debate."​

     
  2. I just finished reading "The Art of the Deal" written by Trump in 1987. In reading the book I can see where he got the skills he uses in politics and governing. The book discusses some the the real estate deals he made. These deals involved coordinating many individuals and organizations including business partners - people and corporations, architects, lawyers, building contractors, financiers, state and city government agencies. He had to persuade financiers to lend him money, he had to persuade partners to join him and support his plans, and he had to persuade sometimes multiple city and state government organizations such as zoning boards to approve his plans, casino licensing boards to allow him to operate casinos, and other government authorities to grant tax breaks. He had to attract commercial and residential tenants to his properties and customers to his casinos which involved sales, marketing, publicity and persuasion - he learned the value of both good and bad publicity. He had public feuds. And he had several projects going on at any given time. He is a fighter who will stand up as a matter of principle even when caving in would be better for him financially.

    All that by 1987. It is no wonder that by 2016 he was most able candidate in the race.
     
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  3. David Bailey

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    Do you know anything about this guy - is he 'far right' in the sense of being pro-Trump, or is he 'far right' in the sense of being a sinister individual?

    David
     
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  4. Mitchell is a conservative not a neo-nazi. He has an internet TV show somewhat like Alex Jones. He is a bit of a self promoter. I don't trust him unless, like with any other source of information, I can verify what he says from other reliable sources.
     
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  5. https://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion...aking-up-to-the-duplicity-of-the-13337404.php

    "What most non-Latinos don’t grasp is that Latinos are ambivalent about illegal immigration. They have a front-row seat not just to the pain of deportations, but also to how many immigrants commit crimes or abuse social services.

    In 2016, an astounding 29 percent of Latinos voted for Trump.

    And now, two years into his presidency, polls show that his support among Latinos is somewhere between 33 and 41 percent. That’s insanely good for a president who is so bad on issues that Latinos supposedly care about."​
     
  6. You quoted my post on Bill Mitchell but I don't know where you got far-right from, maybe here...

    If you were wondering about this post I don't really know. I assume anyone who is a conservative is called Hitler/Nazi by the media so if they say far-right I assume he is a centrist or conservative. But I don't really know anything about him. But it is interesting because there seems to be an international trend Brexit, Trump, Bolsonaro, and others.
     
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  7. Charlie Primero

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    Bill Mitchell is your standard pro-Israel NeoCon Republican Retard.

    His shtick is to be a Trump cheerleader no matter what. He supported Trump's bombing of Syria.

    The "far-right" hates Mitchell's guts, and rightly so.
     
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    In Texas most Latinos support Trump because they oppose Illegal Immigration. They know the deleterious effects Immigration has on society. see: https://imgur.com/a/B0zF7P8

    A minority of Latinos oppose Trump because they know ethnic solidarity will give them more political power in the long run.
     
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  9. Here is a longer list of 573 instances.
    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1057324510473527302.html

    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/i-spe...st-violence-because-cnn-says-it-doesnt-exist/

    "I Spent 6 Hours Tweeting About 573 Instances Of Leftist Violence, Because CNN Says It Doesn’t Exist
    Oct 30, 2018 By Peter D'Abrosca
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    Some leftists, desperate to defend their party’s bruised reputation have complained that many of the instances are not “actual violence” against right wingers. Indeed, some instances are death threats against right wingers, famous Hollywood types calling for assassination of right wingers and instances of theft or vandalism of personal property of right wingers.

    This is a rich criticism from the political left, considering that their news networks constantly lecture President Donald J. Trump about his “rhetoric.”

    But more importantly, to those leftists attempting to make this distinction, I ask: Which of the items on this list would you want to happen to you? The answer is none."​
     
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  10. David Bailey

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    Apparently Bolsonaro is a climate sceptic!

    David
     
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  11. President Trump criticized the left-wing fake news media for spreading division and he defended his followers again at the Ft Myers Rally:




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    "Before going any further I want to take a moment to address the horrific shooting at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh. It was terrible. Eleven Americans were brutally murdered in an evil anti-semitic attack. Yesterday I traveled to Pittsburgh to meet with the families and first responders. And I especially want to thank rabbi Jeffrey Myers he was terrific. He was terrific. Fine man. We grieve for the families of the fallen and we send our eternal gratitude to the law enforcement officers who sustained severe injuries taking down the gunman. They were incredible. They were incredible. They were incredible. Could have, been, as bad as it was, and it was bad, it could have been far worse. They were unbelievable. And they got there fast.

    We pledge our resolve to remove the vile poison of anti-semitism and so many other problems from our world. And we reaffirm our unbreakable solidarity with the Jewish people. Thank you.

    Yesterday's visit to Pittsburgh was about coming together as a nation to comfort and to heal. After this day of unity and togetherness I came home and sadly turned on the news and watched as the far-left media once again used tragedy to sow anger and division. Sadly they took a small group of protesters far away from where we were, because we could not have been treated better, the first lady and myself. But we're representing the presidency and they did everything in their power to try to play it up and push people apart. That's what's happening, they're pushing people apart. It was fake and it was make-believe what they said. I came home look forward to seeing it and it was sad. And when we talk about division this is a big part of the division right there.

    The far-left media has spread terrible lies and stories about the Trump administration and the tens of millions of people who make up our great movement the greatest political movement in the history of our country. The greatest. The greatest. The greatest movement in the history of our country and they don't even refute that fact. It is possibly the greatest political movement anywhere. I can't think of anyplace else. It's because of you. The movement is you, and it's about you, not me, it's about you.

    I am proud of the fact that my administration has boldly revitalized our nation's historic bond with Israel and moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem. And remember many presidents have promised to do that. Many many many presidents, "we are going to move the embassy to Jerusalem" and then they don't do it. The reason is it is not an easy thing to do. I've done it and by the way the embassy is already built it's already open and it came in 1 billion dollars less than people thought. They should like that. They should really like it.

    We've taken aggressive measures against the terrorist groups that seek the slaughter of innocent people all around the world for lots of different reasons. It's terrible.

    We've taken unprecedented action to confront the regime in Iran. And we have ended the horrible one-sided Iran nuclear catastrophe. And Iran is a much different country today than the country that started off at the beginning of our administration almost two years ago.

    We have forcefully condemned hatred, bigotry, racism, and prejudice in all of its ugly forms.

    But the media doesn't want you to hear your story. It's not my story, it's your story. And that's why 33% of the people in this country believe the fake news is in fact, and I hate to say this, in fact, the enemy of the people. The left-wing media doesn't want to solve problems they want to stoke resentment. It has to stop. They believe that progress isn't good for profit or for whatever reason it is they're playing their game.

    Our movement is about safe homes, great jobs for every citizen. Our movement is about love for our fellow Americans. Our movement is for everyone and belongs to anyone who wants to build a better future. You can do it right here in the USA, right here."
     
  12. Reece

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    Yeah, me too.

    In fact, with one exception where a girl kind of coaxed me into voting since I was with her when she went, I've never even voted. But in this case I cannot not vote. And I'll vote right-wing across the board, most likely.

    (And for those that don't know, I called myself a "radical leftist" for a good decade and a half . . . but now, though I would've never guessed a few years back, all the breathing room, tolerance, support of free speech, freshness, and sanity is on the (new) right . . . imo.)
     
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  13. David Bailey

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    I think the whole left-right axis has somehow rotated - politics has changed but the names of the parties remained the same.

    If this is your first time voting for a long time, do check that you are properly registered to vote - I don't know the details because I am not American.

    David
     
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  14. I think I remember someone saying on the forum here that people who voted for Trump were fools, they would be disappointed because Trump could not be trusted to keep his campaign promises - he had changed positions so many times in the past.

    I have to say that person was wrong. Here is a partial list of Trumps accomplishments.

    Economy
    • Cutting taxes
    • Reducing regulations
    • Lowest Black unemployment
    • Lowest Hispanic Unemployment
    • Black and Hispanic poverty rates at historic lows.
    Health Care
    • Right to try
    • Eliminating the Obamacare individual mandate
    • Reducing costs of prescription drugs
    Trade Policy
    • USMCA closed the loophole in NAFTA that let China, Europe, and other countries "sneak" their products into the US through Mexico and Canada
    • Tariffs on dumped steel and aluminum, restoring the US steel industry an issue of national security.
    • Tariffs on Chinese imports as leverage for a reciprocal trade agreement.

    Immigration and Border Security
    • US-Mexico border wall is under construction
    • Ended catch and release
    • Enhanced vetting of refugees
    • Arresting and deporting MS-13 gang members
    Nominating Judges
    • Appointing Justice Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court
    • Appointing Justice Gorsuch to the Supreme Court
    • Many other federal court judges appointed
    Veterans

    • Allowing veterans to use any doctor
    • VA accountability law (ability to fire staff at VA hospitals)
    Military
    • Rebuilding the Military
    • Wiping out ISIS
    • Making other NATO countries pay their fair share
    Foreign Policy
    • Stopping nuclear weapons tests and missile tests in North Korea
    • Sanctions back on Iran
    Cultural issues
    • Speaking out against and standing up to the fake news media.
    • Speaking out against and standing up to the political correctness bullies.
    My only concern when voting for Trump was his trade policies but what he has done is so far is not anything I object to. I am not against reciprocal trade agreements (or using tariffs as leverage to get them), or tariffs to protect industries of importance to national security.

    At this point I have to say that I have gotten more satisfaction from voting for Trump than from any other vote I have cast.

     
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  15. President Trump Gives Remarks on Lowering Drug Prices



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    https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapo...prices-will-have-a-major-impact/#6e9d64212691

    The Trump Plan To Reduce Prescription Drug Prices Will Have A Major Impact

     
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  16. President Trump announced plans to:
    • Deny asylum to anyone who enters the country illegally.
    • Deny asylum to caravan members - they should have accepted asylum from Mexico.
    • End catch and release - illegal immigrants and asylum seekers will now be housed in tents instead of being released when there is insufficient space in permanent facilities. It also sounded like they will provide facilities where children can be housed with their parents so they will not have to be released - this will end an incentive to bring children across the border illegally.

    Article and video of the president's announcement:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-caravan-remarks-at-the-white-house


    (The video here is of lower quality but has the Q&A with reporters at the end.)
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...mp-speech-immigration-live-stream/1849944002/
     
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  17. 11/1/18 Columbia Missouri



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    "The Republican agenda is the mainstream agenda of the American people. It's how we all got here. The greatest movement in the history of politics in our country. It's about you not about me. The Democrat agenda is the agenda of the extreme far left. They've gone crazy folks. They've gone totally loco. Republicans are the party of all Americans. We welcome citizens from all walks of life and embrace freedom of thought, freedom of speech, and freedom of everything else. The Democrats are the party of rigid ideology and total conformity. They demand absolute agreement and they dismiss, demean and demonize anyone who questions their radical ideas. Did you ever see anything like what's going on? You can't have dinner, can't have dinner. Do you see what they're doing to our people? I mean see what they're doing to people that represent our thought. And we're being so nice we're being so nice, and let's stay being nice, right? We'll stay being nice because we are tough as hell. We're going to stay nice. We're going to stay nice."​
     
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  18. Reece

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    Yeah, I happen to be registered because I just had to renew my license last week.

    And yeah, you're right. Ten years ago I would've never believed that all the oxygen and breathing room would be on the right . . . along with a real fight for free speech, a sense of tolerance, and the pro-worker stance (opposed to the new anti-worker, immigration stance of the left). And the right has just become the cooler of the two groups with folks like Gavin McInnes, Jordan Peterson, Dave Rubin, and a ton of others. Who would've ever guessed?
     
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