And the overly tired, false equivalencies come out.
So its mutually exclusive? An effective, non-war mongering president must also be a boor? The ends simply justify the means?
Look, you made a statement consistent with many you've made in the past, lamenting the fact that so many Americans dislike the man "for no good reason".
Well it is now recognised for example that Kennedy had a fair few liaisons on the side. I'd guess there was a certain amount of boorishness in that - not to mention heartbreak. Bush senior seems to have always pawed women - and girls, and still does from his wheel chair.
Maybe it would be better to exclude such people from politics, but that is not why the media is full of anti-Trump messages, because if it was, wouldn't they have exposed Eric Schneiderman a little sooner than they did. The press couldn't care a damn about even the most gross sexual misconduct, unless it is politically useful.
I dare say Trump has had liasions with a fair few women, and he obviously didn't succeed by simply grabbing their genitals - the very fact that this joke is publicised rather than the accusations that Hillary pressurised a woman not to bring a rape charge against her husband, tells you (or at least it should tell you) how bogus is their indignation.
The reasons are plenty good, you've just chosen to adopt this binary, ends justifies the means approach to things.
Well how about starting with one
really good reason. I don't think a joke is a 'plenty good' reason to disrespect an elected president.
You've made it black and white. Plus, the war starting thing hasn't played itself out just yet. Trump has plenty of time to wreak havoc before his time is done; whether it be through traditional armed conflict or other, potentially even more dangerous means.
Perhaps we should create some sort of scale on which to judge politicians. I think such a scale would have to be logarithmic.
Starting a war unnecessarily or on false pretences -1000,000 points.
Murdering someone - 500,000 points
Raping someone -100,000 points
Coercing someone not to report a rape -20,000 points
(or zero if it was genuinely done to try to protect the victim from additional harm)
Fraud etc -1000 points
Adultery -100 points
Making frequent coarse jokes -10 points
Making a single coarse joke -1 point
Making the economy work +1000 points
Avoiding a war that doesn't need fighting +1000,000 points
Feel free to adjust the numbers, but I don't see any reasonable way you could score Trump lower than Hillary! Maybe try scoring one or two other US presidents while you are on with it.
David