The SJW and equality movement

Canada does not have a free press. Trudeau bailed out the mainstream media, and if they don't support him they lose the funding. He is currently trying to shut down independent news sources. Trudeau is very big on censorship.

Without a free press, it's hard to know what is really going on. The government news site, the CBC, barely covers any negative news regarding Trudeau and when they do, they try their hardest not to anger him. They have actually taken down stories from their website that weren't flattering enough.

I suspect that may be changing. Perhaps the media has figured out that they have lost all credibility, along with their audience.

That may explain why the PM is not showing up to work these days.

https://spencerfernando.com/2020/07...s-question-period-takes-personal-day-instead/
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Man, this "swamp" just gets bigger & bigger. I now see the global agenda clearly.
 
it seems somewhat contradictory to me that people in this thread are presumably anti human sex trafficking and at the same time seem to think that generations of enslavement (getting stolen, sold, worked to death, beaten, and raped) should have no impact on the ability of African Americans to pursue education and financial success. or am I reading the comments wrong?
 
it seems somewhat contradictory to me that people in this thread are presumably anti human sex trafficking and at the same time seem to think that generations of enslavement (getting stolen, sold, worked to death, beaten, and raped) should have no impact on the ability of African Americans to pursue education and financial success. or am I reading the comments wrong?
Yes. There's definitely some ignorance around the difference between "equality" and "equity"...

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Yes. There's definitely some ignorance around the difference between "equality" and "equity"...
agreed, and well said. now cue the comments along the lines of: "well how do you determine equity? how do you measure xyz to determine what it is equitable? are you saying everyone should get abc regardless of 123?"

sorry. i should limit the sarcasm. but yeah. I just don't get people who seem to think that historical events don't (or shouldn't) play any role in current circumstances.
 
Yes. There's definitely some ignorance around the difference between "equality" and "equity"...
So should professional sports teams apply equity and allow everyone to play regardless of ability? Would you want to watch?

What about trans women competing in women's sports? Is that equity?
 
agreed, and well said. now cue the comments along the lines of: "well how do you determine equity? how do you measure xyz to determine what it is equitable? are you saying everyone should get abc regardless of 123?"

sorry. i should limit the sarcasm. but yeah. I just don't get people who seem to think that historical events don't (or shouldn't) play any role in current circumstances.
So you want communism then.

That never ends well.

https://archive.org/details/TheGulagArchipelago/Solzhenitzyn_-_Gulag_Archiepelago_-_001-104.mp3
 
I would agree K9, about a more silent group that exists that opposes extreme left ideologies (SJW, etc.). However, I don't see any evidence to conflate this with the notion that this group "stands with Trump". At least that's not how folks that fit this description in my social network talk about Trump. They don't like the guy and would giddily exchange him for another (any other?) viable republican with similar policy leanings.
 
I would agree K9, about a more silent group that exists that opposes extreme left ideologies (SJW, etc.). However, I don't see any evidence to conflate this with the notion that this group "stands with Trump". At least that's not how folks that fit this description in my social network talk about Trump. They don't like the guy and would giddily exchange him for another (any other?) viable republican with similar policy leanings.
I've seen Trump supporters in my own circles be afraid to say anything for fear of losing their jobs. That is a serious fear and it's well-founded. Students in universities are afraid to support their own president for fear of retaliation. by the universities. Even centrists are being attacked.

The thing is, Conservatives/Classical Liberals are more willing to be friends with Leftists that vice versa. Leftists control the media and most institutions. So anyone not far left is at risk of retaliation.

I think the Democrats ties to the radical left have hurt them with Classical Liberals who otherwise may have supported them. There were a lot of silent Trump supporters in 2016. It could happen again.
 
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So should professional sports teams apply equity and allow everyone to play regardless of ability?
No. I think the theory is that it has to kick in educationally much younger than that. So that the youngest kids have at least the possibility of attaining some ‘ability’ at something further down the track. There are some amazing teachers doing fantastic work in this field in America. It’s not all doom and gloom, there is some real hope for the future.
 
No. I think the theory is that it has to kick in educationally much younger than that. So that the youngest kids have at least the possibility of attaining some ‘ability’ at something further down the track. There are some amazing teachers doing fantastic work in this field in America. It’s not all doom and gloom, there is some real hope for the future.
The problem with your theory is that natural ability can't be taken out of the equation. Natural talent and hard work make individuals stand out from the crowd. Of course, individuality and hard work are now considered "whiteness" by the left. It's no wonder they are telling kids not to be individuals and not to work hard. I suppose if you brainwash enough children, there will be a generation mediocre enough to create equity.

No more gifted athletes or great mathematicians. No more breathtaking art.

That's the price of equity.
 
https://www.newsweek.com/smithsonia...l-thinking-hard-work-are-white-values-1518333

A graphic displayed in the guidelines, entitled "Aspects and Assumptions of Whiteness in the United States," declares that rational thinking and hard work, among others, are white values.

In the section, Smithsonian declares that "objective, rational, linear thinking," "quantitative emphasis," "hard work before play," and various other values are aspects and assumptions of whiteness.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12142926/african-american-museum-whiteness-chart-protestant-values/

 
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timot...ciety-is-a-product-of-white-ideology-n2388692

A college professor thinks hard work is a bad thing.

Putman believes that it is somehow a bad thing to teach students personal responsibility. Emphasizing a collectivist mindset, Putman puts forth the idea that Americans are falsely "socialized to believe that we got to where we are… because of our own individual efforts.”

This “ideology” she says, perpetuates whiteness and racism throughout society. Once students learn more about "white ideology," they will hopefully “resist perpetuating and reifying whiteness through their own discourse and interactions,” and challenge systemic “manifestations of racism and whiteness.”

Until students learn the hidden dangers of believing in the value of hard-work and a positive attitude, “whiteness ideologies may be reproduced through a general acceptance and unchallenging of norms, as well as through everyday discourse from a wide variety of racial positionalities.”
Putman did not say how she would be grading students in the future. According to her theory, grading based on their merits and test scores would be a perpetuation of white ideological privilege.
 
The problem with your theory is that natural ability can't be taken out of the equation. Natural talent and hard work make individuals stand out from the crowd. Of course, individuality and hard work are now considered "whiteness" by the left. It's no wonder they are telling kids not to be individuals and not to work hard. I suppose if you brainwash enough children, there will be a generation mediocre enough to create equity.

No more gifted athletes or great mathematicians. No more breathtaking art.

That's the price of equity.
Living aside the fact that anyone who has worked really hard to excel at something will have a lot to say about the notion/myth of ‘natural talent’, we have to try and enable everyone to be the best they can be, and reach their potential. I think your misunderstanding deliberately to make a point.
 
I call it what it is. Marxism is Marxism.
You, and others, are using ‘marxism’ to describe any scrutiny, or questioning, of the prevailing capitalist model. Unfettered capitalism tends to be checked and corrected every so often but I would advise you to relax - it won’t disappear. I live in a country with a strong socialist government, yet we still play the game.
 
Living aside the fact that anyone who has worked really hard to excel at something will have a lot to say about the notion/myth of ‘natural talent’, we have to try and enable everyone to be the best they can be, and reach their potential. I think your misunderstanding deliberately to make a point.
How about the effect of different intelligence levels? Or physical strength? Or creativity?

There is no such thing as equity. People are individuals. The only way to artificially create equity is to hold some people back. That creates a lot of problems and doesn't solve anything.
 
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