Reece
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Perhaps we can come here to follow our derailments, rather than staying on the derailed thread or else having to go to private conversation . . .
I wonder what you could mean by goofy: he basically said that people should eat what they've been eating for one million, nine hundred and ninety thousand years . . . not the things that have been suddenly added (or taken away, actually) that we haven't had time to evolve to handle . . . I would think the goofy idea would be the latter
Why do you put "those people" in quotes? Are you implying I said something in bad taste?
Life expectancy: he spent a lot of time, in fact, looking at populations with higher numbers of people living to be 100+. But as far as life expectancy and what killed them, well, the idea is that as long as people are eating what they evolved to eat, they're gonna be healthy . . . I mean, if a wolf has evolved for tens of thousands or a couple hundred thousand years to eat, say, 90% raw meat and 10% grass (I have no idea what they eat, statistically broken down, but would guess much meat), then they should be healthy, right? Would they still be healthy if they ate 40% wheat, and 20% corn, and 15% overcooked vebetables, and 25% cooked meat? I mean, look at our teeth. Do you see any wolves with crooked teeth and cancer or diabetes? One might look long enough and find a wild animal with this or that ailment. I'm sure that does happen, but it certainly couldn't be much. The poeple that Weston Price studied - populations where they still ate what they'd eaten for tens of thousands of years - this is exactly what he found: the health you'd expect of any other (undomesticated) animal. And with the teeth thing, which is a result of low nutrients, I've never once seen a single animal with crooked teeth. But, I'd wager if we keep feeding our dogs and cats soy, wheat, and corn - grains, which they haven't evolved to eat - that we'd eventually see such a thing.
Our dog, before we were savvy to this stuff, was a female Jack Russell. She should've been very active and relatively thin. She wasn't at all. She became very overweight at a relatively young age . . . not that it should've even really mattered what age she was . . . And she had a serious heart problem for a couple years which eventually killed her. The dog she grew up with (a friend of our's) also became overweight and had health problems. They both coughed like crazy and had major breathing issues! What did we feed them? Something - heavy grains - in a bag labelled "dog food," which any dog, left to it's own devices, would never eat.
And that's basically what humans have done: breads and pasta and such in massive amounts that, even if it were originally of some marginal value, has been modified to be almost nothing like what it was - devaluing a pretty bad food even further - so that harvests could be drastically increased; sugar; low-nutrient, normally genetically modified corn that's wholly unlike maize from hundreds of years ago; foods with natural fats extracted; manmade transfats; cooked and overcooked and packaged foods of all kinds with sugar and endless other what-not added; almost, quite literally, no raw meat whatsoever despite the fact that every single group that Price looked at ate raw meats; meat that is consumed is fattened with grains normally and likely almost nothing like wild game that was consumed 12 thousand or even 2 thousand years ago; no organ meats, though every "food-indigenous" group he looked at consumed every single part of the animal; very, very little traditional fermented foods like sauerkraut or kefir; high consumption of soy, which Asians considered poison unless fermented . . . and so on.
Yet, yet, yet, the cancer industry says they don't know what's causing the problem! And they also keep the "we're closer to a cure" mantra going year after year.
I'm very familiar with Price. I think he...came up with some goofy ideas, but was kinda on to some things, too. The idea that "those people" never had heart disease, etc, is interesting.
What do you think their life expectancy was, and what do you think eventually killed them?
I wonder what you could mean by goofy: he basically said that people should eat what they've been eating for one million, nine hundred and ninety thousand years . . . not the things that have been suddenly added (or taken away, actually) that we haven't had time to evolve to handle . . . I would think the goofy idea would be the latter
Why do you put "those people" in quotes? Are you implying I said something in bad taste?
Life expectancy: he spent a lot of time, in fact, looking at populations with higher numbers of people living to be 100+. But as far as life expectancy and what killed them, well, the idea is that as long as people are eating what they evolved to eat, they're gonna be healthy . . . I mean, if a wolf has evolved for tens of thousands or a couple hundred thousand years to eat, say, 90% raw meat and 10% grass (I have no idea what they eat, statistically broken down, but would guess much meat), then they should be healthy, right? Would they still be healthy if they ate 40% wheat, and 20% corn, and 15% overcooked vebetables, and 25% cooked meat? I mean, look at our teeth. Do you see any wolves with crooked teeth and cancer or diabetes? One might look long enough and find a wild animal with this or that ailment. I'm sure that does happen, but it certainly couldn't be much. The poeple that Weston Price studied - populations where they still ate what they'd eaten for tens of thousands of years - this is exactly what he found: the health you'd expect of any other (undomesticated) animal. And with the teeth thing, which is a result of low nutrients, I've never once seen a single animal with crooked teeth. But, I'd wager if we keep feeding our dogs and cats soy, wheat, and corn - grains, which they haven't evolved to eat - that we'd eventually see such a thing.
Our dog, before we were savvy to this stuff, was a female Jack Russell. She should've been very active and relatively thin. She wasn't at all. She became very overweight at a relatively young age . . . not that it should've even really mattered what age she was . . . And she had a serious heart problem for a couple years which eventually killed her. The dog she grew up with (a friend of our's) also became overweight and had health problems. They both coughed like crazy and had major breathing issues! What did we feed them? Something - heavy grains - in a bag labelled "dog food," which any dog, left to it's own devices, would never eat.
And that's basically what humans have done: breads and pasta and such in massive amounts that, even if it were originally of some marginal value, has been modified to be almost nothing like what it was - devaluing a pretty bad food even further - so that harvests could be drastically increased; sugar; low-nutrient, normally genetically modified corn that's wholly unlike maize from hundreds of years ago; foods with natural fats extracted; manmade transfats; cooked and overcooked and packaged foods of all kinds with sugar and endless other what-not added; almost, quite literally, no raw meat whatsoever despite the fact that every single group that Price looked at ate raw meats; meat that is consumed is fattened with grains normally and likely almost nothing like wild game that was consumed 12 thousand or even 2 thousand years ago; no organ meats, though every "food-indigenous" group he looked at consumed every single part of the animal; very, very little traditional fermented foods like sauerkraut or kefir; high consumption of soy, which Asians considered poison unless fermented . . . and so on.
Yet, yet, yet, the cancer industry says they don't know what's causing the problem! And they also keep the "we're closer to a cure" mantra going year after year.
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