Trump Consciousness

I'm not evading anything. I responded to David's points.

It seems you are telling me that Big Pharma and social media tech firms are the bad actors. I'll grant they might be. Fair enough?

Here's the next question: Why are all the other billionaires allowing them to destroy our economy?
First, and I hate to hammer you when you do this, but you use the word "all" and the fact is that it is most but not all. So I will try and address the answer in view of "most." Billionaires own outright or participate in ownership of massively large corporations. Massively large corporations see all the smaller corporations and all small and medium size businesses as competition. The massive corporations have no allegiance to the US and have demonstrated zero (or almost zero) concern for the lives and livelihoods of the common folk, the middle class. They have no issues with outsourcing any labor to the cheapest places on the planet they can obtain in (including factoring in transportation costs from distant lands. They want to replace humans with machines if their analysis is that the machines can create more profits and/or assist them in lowering their costs which can destroy their competition.

Trump has stood in their way (with measurable success) and they know that won't change if he is re-elected.

Big Pharma and tech probably makes up something close to 20% of the market cap these days (might even be a bit more).

Market cap percentage does not equate to their influence. Especially with regards to Big Pharma (one of the powerful octopus arms of the legacy of the Rockefeller medical legacy and its associates in "death technology." If you spend a fair enough time paying attention to the main advertisers of the mainstream media news opinion shows, you'll see the plethora of "Pharma" products endlessly paraded before you.

That said, the rest of the corporate interest is a majority and an extended lock-down is generally a bad thing for them as I've stated previously.
Not when you look at things through a longer term lens. And in some cases, like Amazon for example, you are cleaning up while 30% of the small businesses they used to compete against have closed and most for good.

But also, there are major corporations who have experienced lower profits but lockdowns for these companies are a BIG WIN because they have the ability to raise funds (in some cases via their political friends in congress that throw bailout money their way... as Trump has signed off on (to the dismay of some of us) but as Joe Biden would most certainly do as well.

How the hell did Big Pharma (isolating them for a minute) get such an outsized and apparently unchallenged position of power among the industrial elite? I don't see any evidence for it.
I already addressed that but I will add another factor. The massive profit potential of Big Pharma, especially if government "partners" (wink wink) with them and allows exorbitant pricing to remain in place while forcing taxpayers to support the costs. Trump pulled the rug out from under Big Pharma with his executive action that lowers the prices here in America to what they can be bought for in another country AND Trump took the wind out of Obamacare by eliminating the mandate which, by the way, was paid for by people who made less than 50,000 a year... did you know that? Those are the middle class who Trump has tried to help by lowering the unemployment rate, tax reform and eliminating this mandate.

Are the big banks bad actors? (Let's not forget Trump has lots of relationships with big banks as its a core part of being a real estate magnate. More broadly, Trump recently reminded us that he has great relationships on Wall Street when talking about Biden's fund raising. Would seem to be great alignment there for these two Forces (Trump and the big banks) to counter the influence of Big Pharma.)
Trump is a bloviator - what's new... but when you look at the facts - Wall Street contributed over 90% to Biden... what does that tell you? And the financial sector of Wall Street is a significant sector.

And think about it. We all know (now more than ever) that Joe Biden is the political arm of the Biden family. Other members play their roles as bagmen for the family collecting for selling access to Joe. If you are a bank or any corporation for that matter... or any foreign government for that matter, who would you want as President of the United States? Someone you can buy off (and oh... perhaps have blackmail on).
 
It is now clear why he didn't say "he had copies" - he didn't need to. What was sent was a flash drive which is exactly what I would have done myself. I certainly would not have sent "original copies" anyways. That would be beyond stupid.

Sending the documents as electronic files suggests quite strongly these same files are safe and secure on other secure electronic storage and likely also suggests the original files, if ever on paper, are also quite secure.

Note that these days, there are original documents in electronic format only. If someone printed one, it would be a print copy of the original electronic document. This is our world now... has been that way for awhile (in fact).
"UPDATE: UPS Finds Tucker Carlson’s Lost Hunter Biden Package That Went Missing in the Mail"
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-lost-hunter-biden-package-went-missing-mail/

I wonder what the tracking page said and why Tucker didn't say anything about it?
 
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Fascinating Tucker Carlson interview of Glenn Greenwald, one of the best Journalists out there.

He explains why he resigned yesterday from the media company he founded, The Intercept, because the editors refused to publish his article containing criticisms of Joe Biden.

He details what we already know, the MSM is controlled by intelligence agencies who propagandize Americans with lies for the benefit of Wall Street Billionaires.

 
"UPDATE: UPS Finds Tucker Carlson’s Lost Hunter Biden Package That Went Missing in the Mail"
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...-lost-hunter-biden-package-went-missing-mail/

I wonder what the tracking page said and why Tucker didn't say anything about it?
He didn't need to say anything about the tracking page because he stated the various "scan points" were provided by UPS and so whether those came from their monitoring of the tracking page or UPS or both, sharing which came from which (if different) does not really tell us much... understand, the tracking page tracks the envelope. The mystery wasn't so much about "where's the envelope." The mystery is when where and how the envelope was emptied of its contents (the flash drive).
 
I absolutely believe that scientists like Ioannidis should be part of the dialogue. But are you suggesting his voice is "better"?
There are those of us who are led by our conscience. And there are those who are not (or have none). And between those two extremes spans a vast sea of humanity that makes up the masses... and these are the more vulnerable among us.

If you rely on information provided by any human, whether directly or indirectly (like when humans create programs that provide information), it is completely your own responsibility the decide for yourself how much stock you put in the information.

So when I consider your question as to which "voice is better" I would be stepping on your own personal responsibility to decide a.) whether or not that which comes out of someone's voice is more reliable or less reliable and b.) that if "better" is something I must traverse, I may only do so with regards to deciding this for myself and not for you or any other.

But what I "do" more than anything when it comes to how much I am willing to risk "onboarding" information (and recommendations) from another, be it an individual or a group, I assess (with full personal responsibility for that assessment) the measure of conscience the source appears to have. That is the first and foremost criteria I use when weighing information.

Here's an example - Fauci

Fauci's Treacherous Ties to China and Globalists

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/...cid=20201030ZC_HL2&mid=DM704708&rid=999558817

Story at-a-glance
  • A report by Dr. Peter Breggin reveals Dr. Anthony Fauci’s ties to the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and globalists who have profited from the pandemic measures promoted by him as the leader of the U.S. Coronavirus Task Force
  • Fauci has been the major force behind research activities that enabled the Chinese Communist Party to manufacture lethal SARS coronaviruses, which in turn led to the release — whether accidental or not — of SARS-CoV-2 from the Wuhan Institute of Virology
  • In collaboration with the CCP and the World Health Organization, Fauci initially suppressed the truth about the origins and dangers of the pandemic, thereby enabling the spread of the virus from China to the rest of the world
  • Fauci has supported and praised Director-General of the WHO, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, a member of a Marxist-Leninist Ethiopian political party with a corrupt past and terrorist ties who has also been accused of covering up cholera outbreaks in Ethiopia
  • Fauci recently published a paper in which he dismisses the possibility that SARS-CoV-2 was created in and released from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, arguing instead for natural mutation. He also uses the pandemic to justify the “green new deal” and the globalist movement known as “the Great Reset”

This article features some of the data points I incorporate into the massive set of data points I have gathered regarding the degree of personal, individual conscience to which I choose to provisionally assume Dr. Fauci maintains. His rating (for me, not you or anyone else) is almost "zero." (almost 0.00%)

On the other hand, Dr. Ioannidis has maintained a very high level of confidence in my assessment protocol with regards to having a well integrated conscience. I put it up well over 95%.

How you assess information is your business. That is why I strive never to impose my conclusions on others. If I made a statement that Person A's voice was better or worse [full stop]... that format of communicating would be a form of imposition of my opinion, my view. If, instead, I stated that "I value Person A's voice far more than Person B's voice," as long as I am speaking truth, I am only sharing my own view and leaving you space to decide for yourself.

I perceive this form of operation as respectful to others. Opinion and view imposition is disrespectful to others.
 
https://www.lifesitenews.com/images/pdfs/Open_Letter_to_POTUS.pdf

His Excellency Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò has written yet another open letter to President Donald J. Trump. Read it in its entirety below.

OPEN LETTER TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

DONALD J. TRUMP

Sunday, October 25, 2020

Solemnity of Christ the King

Mr. President,

Allow me to address you at this hour in which the fate of the whole world is being threatened by a global conspiracy against God and humanity. I write to you as an Archbishop, as a Successor of the Apostles, as the former Apostolic Nuncio to the United States of America. I am writing to you in the midst of the silence of both civil and religious authorities. May you accept these words of mine as the “voice of one crying out in the desert” (Jn 1:23).

As I said when I wrote my letter to you in June, this historical moment sees the forces of Evil aligned in a battle without quarter against the forces of Good; forces of Evil that appear powerful and organized as they oppose the children of Light, who are disoriented and disorganized, abandoned by their temporal and spiritual leaders.

Daily we sense the attacks multiplying of those who want to destroy the very basis of society: the natural family, respect for human life, love of country, freedom of education and business. We see heads of nations and religious leaders pandering to this suicide of Western culture and its Christian soul, while the fundamental rights of citizens and believers are denied in the name of a health emergency that is revealing itself more and more fully as instrumental to the establishment of an inhuman faceless tyranny.

A global plan called the Great Reset is underway. Its architect is a global élite that wants to subdue all of humanity, imposing coercive measures with which to drastically limit individual freedoms and those of entire populations. In several nations this plan has already been approved and financed; in others it is still in an early stage. Behind the world leaders who are the accomplices and executors of this infernal project, there are unscrupulous characters who finance the World Economic Forum and Event 201, promoting their agenda.

The purpose of the Great Reset is the imposition of a health dictatorship aiming at the imposition of liberticidal measures, hidden behind tempting promises of ensuring a universal income and cancelling individual debt. The price of these concessions from the International Monetary Fund will be the renunciation of private property and adherence to a program of vaccination against Covid-19 and Covid-21 promoted by Bill Gates with the collaboration of the main pharmaceutical groups. Beyond the enormous economic interests that motivate the promoters of the Great Reset, the imposition of the vaccination will be accompanied by the requirement of a health passport and a digital ID, with the consequent contact tracing of the population of the entire world. Those who do not accept these measures will be confined in detention camps or placed under house arrest, and all their assets will be confiscated.

Mr. President, I imagine that you are already aware that in some countries the Great Reset will be activated between the end of this year and the first trimester of 2021. For this purpose, further lockdowns are planned, which will be officially justified by a supposed second and third wave of the pandemic. You are well aware of the means that have been deployed to sow panic and legitimize draconian limitations on individual liberties, artfully provoking a world-wide economic crisis. In the intentions of its architects, this crisis will serve to make the recourse of nations to the Great Reset irreversible, thereby giving the final blow to a world whose existence and very memory they want to completely cancel. But this world, Mr. President, includes people, affections, institutions, faith, culture, traditions, and ideals: people and values that do not act like automatons, who do not obey like machines, because they are endowed with a soul and a heart, because they are tied together by a spiritual bond that draws its strength from above, from that God that our adversaries want to challenge, just as Lucifer did at the beginning of time with his “non serviam.

Many people – as we well know – are annoyed by this reference to the clash between Good and Evil and the use of “apocalyptic” overtones, which according to them exasperates spirits and sharpens divisions. It is not surprising that the enemy is angered at being discovered just when he believes he has reached the citadel he seeks to conquer undisturbed. What is surprising, however, is that there is no one to sound the alarm. The reaction of the deep state to those who denounce its plan is broken and incoherent, but understandable. Just when the complicity of the mainstream media had succeeded in making the transition to the New World Order almost painless and unnoticed, all sorts of deceptions, scandals and crimes are coming to light.

Until a few months ago, it was easy to smear as “conspiracy theorists” those who denounced these terrible plans, which we now see being carried out down to the smallest detail. No one, up until last February, would ever have thought that, in all of our cities, citizens would be arrested simply for wanting to walk down the street, to breathe, to want to keep their business open, to want to go to church on Sunday. Yet now it is happening all over the world, even in picture-postcard Italy that many Americans consider to be a small enchanted country, with its ancient monuments, its churches, its charming cities, its characteristic villages. And while the politicians are barricaded inside their palaces promulgating decrees like Persian satraps, businesses are failing, shops are closing, and people are prevented from living, traveling, working, and praying. The disastrous psychological consequences of this operation are already being seen, beginning with the suicides of desperate entrepreneurs and of our children, segregated from friends and classmates, told to follow their classes while sitting at home alone in front of a computer.

In Sacred Scripture, Saint Paul speaks to us of “the one who opposes” the manifestation of the mystery of iniquity, the kathèkon (2 Thess 2:6-7). In the religious sphere, this obstacle to evil is the Church, and in particular the papacy; in the political sphere, it is those who impede the establishment of the New World Order.

As is now clear, the one who occupies the Chair of Peter has betrayed his role from the very beginning in order to defend and promote the globalist ideology, supporting the agenda of the deep church, who chose him from its ranks.

Mr. President, you have clearly stated that you want to defend the nation – One Nation under God, fundamental liberties, and non-negotiable values that are denied and fought against today. It is you, dear President, who are “the one who opposes” the deep state, the final assault of the children of darkness.

For this reason, it is necessary that all people of good will be persuaded of the epochal importance of the imminent election: not so much for the sake of this or that political program, but because of the general inspiration of your action that best embodies – in this particular historical context – that world, our world, which they want to cancel by means of the lockdown. Your adversary is also our adversary: it is the Enemy of the human race, He who is “a murderer from the beginning” (Jn 8:44).

Around you are gathered with faith and courage those who consider you the final garrison against the world dictatorship. The alternative is to vote for a person who is manipulated by the deep state, gravely compromised by scandals and corruption, who will do to the United States what Jorge Mario Bergoglio is doing to the Church, Prime Minister Conte to Italy, President Macron to France, Prime Minster Sanchez to Spain, and so on. The blackmailable nature of Joe Biden – just like that of the prelates of the Vatican’s “magic circle” – will expose him to be used unscrupulously, allowing illegitimate powers to interfere in both domestic politics as well as international balances. It is obvious that those who manipulate him already have someone worse than him ready, with whom they will replace him as soon as the opportunity arises.

And yet, in the midst of this bleak picture, this apparently unstoppable advance of the “Invisible Enemy,” an element of hope emerges. The adversary does not know how to love, and it does not understand that it is not enough to assure a universal income or to cancel mortgages in order to subjugate the masses and convince them to be branded like cattle. This people, which for too long has endured the abuses of a hateful and tyrannical power, is rediscovering that it has a soul; it is understanding that it is not willing to exchange its freedom for the homogenization and cancellation of its identity; it is beginning to understand the value of familial and social ties, of the bonds of faith and culture that unite honest people. This Great Reset is destined to fail because those who planned it do not understand that there are still people ready to take to the streets to defend their rights, to protect their loved ones, to give a future to their children and grandchildren. The leveling inhumanity of the globalist project will shatter miserably in the face of the firm and courageous opposition of the children of Light. The enemy has Satan on its side, He who only knows how to hate. But on our side, we have the Lord Almighty, the God of armies arrayed for battle, and the Most Holy Virgin, who will crush the head of the ancient Serpent. “If God is for us, who can be against us?” (Rom 8:31).

Mr. President, you are well aware that, in this crucial hour, the United States of America is considered the defending wall against which the war declared by the advocates of globalism has been unleashed. Place your trust in the Lord, strengthened by the words of the Apostle Paul: “I can do all things in Him who strengthens me” (Phil 4:13). To be an instrument of Divine Providence is a great responsibility, for which you will certainly receive all the graces of state that you need, since they are being fervently implored for you by the many people who support you with their prayers.

With this heavenly hope and the assurance of my prayer for you, for the First Lady, and for your collaborators, with all my heart I send you my blessing.

God bless the United States of America!

+ Carlo Maria Viganò

Tit. Archbishop of Ulpiana

Former Apostolic Nuncio to the United States of America
 
Larry Fink (Head of Blackrock) is on the Board of Trustees of the World Economic Forum.

Trump on Larry Fink:

THE PRESIDENT: So, yeah, sure. It’s a good question. We have brilliant people. We have a tremendous amount of money. And we have brilliant people that I’m taking from Wall Street with Secretary Mnuchin, who’s done an incredible job. A brilliant guy.

I’m taking from Wall Street people that I’ve known, that you all know. The top people in the world. They don’t want money, they don’t want — I mean, will they get something? Yes, maybe they’ll get — who knows? Peanuts, what they want — compared to what they would normally get.

I’m taking the smartest, the most brilliant people in the world in finance, and they’re going to be dealing. I’m not going to hire — I’m not going to hire somebody that’s never done it, that’s a political person or anything else. We’re getting the most brilliant financial minds in the world. I know all of them, and you know all of them. I mean, you read about all of them. I guess, some you don’t read about, and they’re probably the smartest of them all.

But the fact is we’re taking these brilliant people, and they’ll be dealing with United. And they want to help. Look, the airline business — I’ll tell you right now: The airline business has always been a tough business. It’s always been a very tough business. Tough to make money with, with — it’s got every — every barrier you could have, that business has. But for our country, it’s very important. We have to take care of our country. We need the airlines to stay. It’s also big for jobs. So we will be able to handle United, and we’ll be able to handle Delta, and we’ll be able to handle all of it. We have plenty of money.

Now, will we end up owning large chunks, depending on what these great geniuses decide, along with the executives of the different companies? You know, it’s possible. And they’ll make a better deal on the loan, but the taxpayer will then end up owning a big chunk of companies.

As an example, Boeing — Boeing, until a year ago, was the greatest company, I think, in the world by far. There wasn’t — to me, there wasn’t anything close. I believe it was 1 percent of GDP. Okay? Think of it. One company, 1 percent of GDP. It was flawless. Then it had the problems, and then it had on top of it this whole thing with the virus. So Boeing will probably need a hand, and we’re going to bring Boeing back to health.

But we have the smartest people in the world. We have the smartest. I don’t even know if you know that. I think this could be the first time you’ve heard it. People like Larry Fink we’re talking to, and — that’s BlackRock. And we have, you know, the smartest people. And they all want to do it. They all — I mean, this to them — they love this country; they all want to do it. So we’re speaking to people like that, and they’ll be able to work it out.
Source: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...ers-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-13/

Curious to me is all.
 
Read the post right above this one of yours... It addresses your questions to me and others. - This one -
http://www.skeptiko-forum.com/threads/trump-consciousness.4080/page-132#post-147654
Right, that's the one I wrote my post in response to.

The Bishop's reference (effectively) to Larry Fink:
Behind the world leaders who are the accomplices and executors of this infernal project, there are unscrupulous characters who finance the World Economic Forum and Event 201, promoting their agenda.
On a related note, there is irony to my read in the Bishop's letter. It reads pretty close to how someone who seeks to burn down the world might write it. Imminent threat, identifying groups that are evil without any sort of due process, and inciting fear.

Sure, maybe he's right. Its possible and I'm presuming you agree with much (all?) of what the Bishop had to say. Someone taking such a stance better be darn sure, because you may end up inspiring a lot of people to take action which would cause a whole lot of pain.
 
Right, that's the one I wrote my post in response to.

The Bishop's reference (effectively) to Larry Fink:


On a related note, there is irony to my read in the Bishop's letter. It reads pretty close to how someone who seeks to burn down the world might write it. Imminent threat, identifying groups that are evil without any sort of due process, and inciting fear.

Sure, maybe he's right. Its possible and I'm presuming you agree with much (all?) of what the Bishop had to say. Someone taking such a stance better be darn sure, because you may end up inspiring a lot of people to take action which would cause a whole lot of pain.
Enjoy your future, Silence. Be well.
 
This is pandemic related from a right leaning source in the uk.

Note the co-author of the GBD has an alternative to lockdowns, but it’s a long way from “open up, it’ll disappear, like magic”...


I genuinely hope Trump wins. I predict it will end very badly, will destroy him, the Republican Party and populist ideologies for a generation.
 
If you want to know why the government of Minnesota tried to restrict attendance at the Trump rally to 250 people today, listen to what Trump had to say about them when he came out anyway and held the outdoor rally with thousands of people gathered outside the venue watching on a screen set up for them.

Trump pointed out that Democrats give special rights to criminals who were allowed to gather to burn and loot in Minnesota cities, but take away the rights of law abiding people through stay at home orders and crowd limits at political rallies.




 
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If you want to know why the government of Minnesota tried to restrict attendance at the Trump rally to 250 people today, listen to what Trump had to say about them when he came out anyway and held the outdoor rally with thousands of people gathered outside the venue watching on a screen set up for them.

Trump pointed out that Democrats give special rights to criminals who were allowed to gather to burn and loot in Minnesota cities, but take away the rights of law abiding people through stay at home orders and crowd limits at political rallies.




Jim, you've made a career of majoring in the minors. Smells desperate to me.
 
If you want to know why the government of Minnesota tried to restrict attendance at the Trump rally to 250 people today, listen to what Trump had to say about them when he came out anyway and held the outdoor rally with thousands of people gathered outside the venue watching on a screen set up for them.

Trump pointed out that Democrats give special rights to criminals who were allowed to gather to burn and loot in Minnesota cities, but take away the rights of law abiding people through stay at home orders and crowd limits at political rallies.




Everyone loves a farewell tour.
 
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