Charlie Primero
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Maybe the Democrats can use this as a wake up call. They need to be actual Liberals again, not this woke communist nonsense. I don't think you are a fan of the woke SJW stuff. The democrats need better candidates and they need to get away from people like Biden who use political office as a way to make themselves rich rather than to help make things better for their constituents. They should have learned their lesson with Hillary, but instead of fixing what went wrong for them in 2016, the Democrats doubled-down on stupid and gave voters no choice but Trump.I think Trump is ahead as things stand here today. Pretty sure once the dust settles, the votes are tallied, he'll be confirmed for a second term. Not my choice, but the majority appears to have spoken.
Interesting that of all the "patriots" here, not one seems interested in actually counting the vote. Our resident wanna-be-Rambo plans on using this site's name on his gunbag when he takes up arms against the U.S. Our resident Trump sycophant began puking his usual drivel of Trump-propaganda, conspiracy theories, and other 2nd grade education level content just like any other day. You guys make me proud to be an American!
I think Trump is ahead as things stand here today. Pretty sure once the dust settles, the votes are tallied, he'll be confirmed for a second term. Not my choice, but the majority appears to have spoken.
Interesting that of all the "patriots" here, not one seems interested in actually counting the vote. Our resident wanna-be-Rambo plans on using this site's name on his gunbag when he takes up arms against the U.S. Our resident Trump sycophant began puking his usual drivel of Trump-propaganda, conspiracy theories, and other 2nd grade education level content just like any other day. You guys make me proud to be an American!
Maybe the Democrats can use this as a wake up call. They need to be actual Liberals again, not this woke communist nonsense. I don't think you are a fan of the woke SJW stuff. The democrats need better candidates and they need to get away from people like Biden who use political office as a way to make themselves rich rather than to help make things better for their constituents. They should have learned their lesson with Hillary, but instead of fixing what went wrong for them in 2016, the Democrats doubled-down on stupid and gave voters no choice but Trump.
Hopefully in 4 years, there will be good candidates running on both sides.
On the bright side, Trump is very good at building the economy. That's a good skill for a president to have right now.
Do better research.Hey people, what you are both talking about? As I see it now, Democrats are shmelessly trying to proclaim a fake "win", with the help of the most brazen and shameless fraud possible (such as preemptively declaring Biden a "winner" in Arizona)...
Do better research.
Biden did not declare Arizona. Fox News did. Yes, that Fox News. NBC and I believe CNN have left AZ in the "Too close to call" category. Further, Biden did not declare himself a winner either; said we had to let the votes be counted.
Trump, himself, announced to the world last night that he was declaring himself the winner AND went on to suggest that any further vote counting would be fraudulent presuming said counts start to move against him.
That's where we stand.
(Now, wait for the conspiracists to jump in here accusing one campaign of attempting to manipulate the election while their own candidate is doing everything he can to undermine the electorial process. Its insanity.)
It looks like enough votes have been manufactured overnight to give Biden the win by one seat. So it will go to court, although it would have gone to court in any event.
Look, anything is possible and we seem to LOVE dealing in hyperbole around here but let's at least talk about what each candidate has said so far:Yes, I have also counted that - if Biden proclams faux "victory" in all the states in that everything suddenly turned to his side after a counting pause, he will get EXACTLY 270 votes.
Why can't you just quote Trump. You always seem to be making up what he says. You did the same this with the debate transcript. You don't say what he says, you say what you think he said based on what the MSM has told you.Look, anything is possible and we seem to LOVE dealing in hyperbole around here but let's at least talk about what each candidate has said so far:
Biden: (paraphrasing) "We feel good about where we are, but we have to let the votes be counted. I can't declare myself the winner nor can Donald Trump. The American voters are the ones who decide."
Trump: (paraphasinig) "We've won. The election has been decided. Some nasty people are trying to disenfranchise you (i.e., Trump voters) by doing some very bad things."
You seem to be seeing Biden as the current bad actor when, in fact, the only non-democratic comments have come from Trump. Why the mental gymnastics here?
Rules and laws should be followed. Trump ran on a "law and order" ticket as it was. The undeclared states in question have such rules and laws, most have which have been on the books for years. The notable exception is the recent Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruling as it relates to the validity of non-post marked ballots. (Trump has an appeal on the SCOTUS' desk regarding this judicial action.) Votes should be counted (is this even a question?) and any fraud or other nefarious action should be ferreted out and correct; should any occur.
As I've said, I fully expect that this ends with Trump getting to 270 electorial votes. I can't stand the guy, I voted against him, but if the process is followed (i.e., votes are counted) then he's the President for the next four years. My fellow citizens have spoken.
Yet in spite of this, its Trump that continues to make incredibly autocratic comments; anti-democratic comments. That's not even factoring in the continued division he sells like he's marketing office space in one of his high rises. I find this of high concern and ominously dangerous.
Antifa was attacking Biden supporters last night. So there will be violence no matter who wins.The conspiracy theories are the products of sore losers.
I watched fox closely all night. They were very cautious. Even Carl Rove knew it would tighten in those ‘lean dem’ states, and counselled against getting carried away.
Trump and the other bullshit spouters will incite violence and bloodshed.
Why can't you just quote Trump. You always seem to be making up what he says. You did the same this with the debate transcript. You don't say what he says, you say what you think he said based on what the MSM has told you.
Even you thought Trump had won based on last night's numbers. Does it really seem plausible that Biden got 100% of the votes that came in overnight?
Antifa was attacking Biden supporters last night. So there will be violence no matter who wins.
On the bright side, if Biden does the green new deal and destroys the US energy sector, perhaps Canada can start selling them oil again.
We all knew he’d be a bad loser. Utterly predictable, and the real problem. A big baby til the last.
Btw, our energy production in Nz is 80% from renewables. What’s wrong with that? You really think burning through fossil fuels is a sustainable model?
The conspiracy theories are the products of sore losers.
I watched fox closely all night. They were very cautious. Even Carl Rove knew it would tighten in those ‘lean dem’ states, and counselled against getting carried away.
Trump and the other bullshit spouters will incite violence and bloodshed.