Trump Consciousness

Lmao. What reality do YOU live in pal? Seriously? Or has the last 8 months or so been wiped from your memory? Do your eyeballs work?

No wonder we are being fractured into different sides when some people seem to inhabit a parallel universe, where apparently ALL of the oppressive lockdowns of the past year don't exist. I tell ya man, I wish I lived in your world where none of that exists, where I have a job, where I have a future and where I'm not told I'm going to be arrested for leaving my area to visit loved ones.
Are you in the US?
 
Lmao. What reality do YOU live in pal? Seriously? Or has the last 8 months or so been wiped from your memory? Do your eyeballs work?

No wonder we are being fractured into different sides when some people seem to inhabit a parallel universe, where apparently ALL of the oppressive lockdowns of the past year don't exist. I tell ya man, I wish I lived in your world where none of that exists, where I have a job, where I have a future and where I'm not told I'm going to be arrested for leaving my area to visit loved ones.
My apologies...I meant in the US.
 
No worries.

Sometimes with all this arguing, I forget that some people are not in the UK or AUS, and don't experience first hand, the police harassing, threatening and preventing you for trying to seeing your loved ones. It makes you go a little crazy tbh.
 
I already know what's going to happen. All these cases will get thrown out and then there will just be more conspiracy theories coming out. That's one concern I have about this forum. I feel like I'm in the twilight zone with all these crazy conspiracy theories. When I question things on here, i get links to videos with random people who have the "facts" but I don't even know who they are or where they get their info. I don't think the mainstream media is all facts obviously, but I trust them more than people who have a handheld in their basement.
Bingo. The point of these legal cases isn’t to win them. They just want to cause eniugh suspicion so that the state electors will buckle. That’s already working.
 

Bart V

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I already know what's going to happen. All these cases will get thrown out and then there will just be more conspiracy theories coming out. That's one concern I have about this forum. I feel like I'm in the twilight zone with all these crazy conspiracy theories. When I question things on here, i get links to videos with random people who have the "facts" but I don't even know who they are or where they get their info. I don't think the mainstream media is all facts obviously, but I trust them more than people who have a handheld in their basement.
Agreed, we all know the biases of most serious news outlets.

But there is a difference between reporting the facts from a certain perspective, and reporting "alternative facts®".
The more reputable news sources all have editorial standards, they do have a certain level of accountability, they have mechanisms for fact checking. Even Fox news does not skirt to far away from the truth, if you stay away from the opinion clowns, that is.

However the sources that are linked to here, are either from pure propaganda entities (for instances RT), right wing think tanks, or irrelevant nobodies.
We see videos the from the most random You Tubers, some of them probably do not even believe the nonsense they spew , they may be in it purely for the clicks and views. One of them even wears a woolen hat indoors to hide the tin foil hat underneath.
We see whole twitter threads copied verbatim.

Sometimes i think the conspiracy crowd over here is trying to convince themselves, rather than other people

The irony is that those who think we are all "sheeple", are the ones who are so obviously bamboozled and used for personal or political gain.
Maybe even just trolled, simply for the kicks.

Sometimes i think they live in their own private story from "the blacklist", i love that show.
I love it for it's over-the-topness, for it's obviously flawed plot lines, for the cartoonishness of the characters.
But i will never confuse it with reality, as some here seem to do.
 
Agreed, we all know the biases of most serious news outlets.

But there is a difference between reporting the facts from a certain perspective, and reporting "alternative facts®".
The more reputable news sources all have editorial standards, they do have a certain level of accountability, they have mechanisms for fact checking. Even Fox news does not skirt to far away from the truth, if you stay away from the opinion clowns, that is.

However the sources that are linked to here, are either from pure propaganda entities (for instances RT), right wing think tanks, or irrelevant nobodies.
We see videos the from the most random You Tubers, some of them probably do not even believe the nonsense they spew , they may be in it purely for the clicks and views. One of them even wears a woolen hat indoors to hide the tin foil hat underneath.
We see whole twitter threads copied verbatim.

Sometimes i think the conspiracy crowd over here is trying to convince themselves, rather than other people

The irony is that those who think we are all "sheeple", are the ones who are so obviously bamboozled and used for personal or political gain.
Maybe even just trolled, simply for the kicks.

Sometimes i think they live in their own private story from "the blacklist", i love that show.
I love it for it's over-the-topness, for it's obviously flawed plot lines, for the cartoonishness of the characters.
But i will never confuse it with reality, as some here seem to do.
Perfectly said. The "sheeple" term could definitely go in the opposite direction.
 
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...rotection-7-million-votes-stolen-trump-audio/

Sidney Powell:​
** There are many smoking guns and we are going to need federal protection for many people​
** 3 million dead people voted​
** A lot of the evidence of fraud is coming out next week. We have more evidence coming in every day. It only gets worse and worse.​
** The fraud was very widespread, very deliberate and very well funded.​
** Everybody and their pet rock is trying to stop me from exposing it.​
** I think the fraud went much further than just President Trump. I think they did it to John James and others.​
** We have data out of California in 2016 that Hillary Clinton did it to Bernie Sanders there.​
** We have a number of smoking guns and we may have to get witness protection for them.​
** We have a lot of evidence, it’s beyond impressive and absolutely terrifying.​
** These are federal court lawsuits. They’re paramount to any future life of our republic.​
** We ‘ve got evidence of people being paid. We got check studs from people being paid.​


Here is the video from Howie Carr's youtube channel. The above segment starts at 1:30:47
 
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/20...rotection-7-million-votes-stolen-trump-audio/

Sidney Powell:​
** There are many smoking guns and we are going to need federal protection for many people​
** 3 million dead people voted​
** A lot of the evidence of fraud is coming out next week. We have more evidence coming in every day. It only gets worse and worse.​
** The fraud was very widespread, very deliberate and very well funded.​
** Everybody and their pet rock is trying to stop me from exposing it.​
** I think the fraud went much further than just President Trump. I think they did it to John James and others.​
** We have data out of California in 2016 that Hillary Clinton did it to Bernie Sanders there.​
** We have a number of smoking guns and we may have to get witness protection for them.​
** We have a lot of evidence, it’s beyond impressive and absolutely terrifying.​
** These are federal court lawsuits. They’re paramount to any future life of our republic.​
** We ‘ve got evidence of people being paid. We got check studs from people being paid.​


Here is the video from Howie Carr's youtube channel. The above segment starts at 1:30:47

More from Sidney:

She estimates they removed 7 million votes from Trump but it might be more, and probably gave at least 10 million votes to Biden.

"Several million" dead people voted each instance of that is a federal felony and they are going to find there was a significant conspiracy to do that.
(The article said 3 million dead people voted, I suppose that is their interpretation of "several", everything else is I quoted above is an accurate representation of what Sidney said in the interview.)

She believes, (but can't say for sure because they haven't had the time to check the data) that the vote fraud algorithm was run nationwide.

Biden's confession that: "We have put together and you guys did this for Obama's administration before this, I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in history of American politics" is credible because dementia removes your filter.

1:40:57
"At the rate information is pouring in and with the dedicated little team that we have, I think that we're going to get it done. Certainly enough to blow it absolutely all up, and it should thoroughly embarrass the Department of Justice, and the National Security Administration, and the Department of Homeland Security, and the FBI, that they have ignored all this for this time. Either that or they were complicit in operating it and running it and using it for their own operations. The CIA, I'm sure, had a hand in it."

She says heads of CIA and FBI should be fired immediately.

She will be trying to file Federal lawsuits by next Friday and will be releasing additional evidence to the public.

There was substantial foreign interference, including China, Iran, Serbia, Lichtenstein.
 
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Any thoughts on Trump’s tax affairs?
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Sure. Nobody cares. Here is the deal, he's rich. He probably took EVERY deductable & also bought many things going into capital accounts (so you don't have to pay taxes). Like a business that makes a bunch of $$ at the end of the year, will go out & buy a LOT of stuff. Like computers, furniture, supplies, property. It's very common. This stuff is not taxed & so your bottom line looks less to tax on. You can delay depositing $$ until the following year to lower your profit margins /taxable income until the next year (not legal) but all businesses do this.

Or they will do a c-corp or s-corp. But Malf you know this means nothing. I mean if we go there, then we want to point out Pelosi is worth 190 million. Joe Biden hides his gains in his son or brother's accounts. His hedge funds with his daughter's husband. Biden is MUCH dirtier than Trump.

and Clinton beats them all (I've seen her balance sheet & income statements). The foundation is very dirty. They laundered $$ through HSBC bank, back when Comey worked at HSBC bank. HSBC is well known for laundering money.

If you're going to toast someone make it mean something MALF. Like child porn or human trafficking, pay to play. The lobbyist are the ones destroying this country. Biden just directly sells us out & takes his 10% cut.

But, whatever you do, if you don't like Trump fine, but don't be a fool that latches on to his enemies. They are even worse. You know this Malf, you just got angered by Trump. The correct response isn't to love his enemies. You wouldn't sit down at the same dinner table as them.
 
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Sure. Nobody cares. Here is the deal, he's rich. He probably took EVERY deductable & also bought many things going into capital accounts (so you don't have to pay taxes). Like a business that makes a bunch of $$ at the end of the year, will go out & buy a LOT of stuff. Like computers, furniture, supplies, property. It's very common. This stuff is not taxed & so your bottom line looks less to tax on. You can delay depositing $$ until the following year to lower your profit margins /taxable income until the next year (not legal) but all businesses do this.

Or they will do a c-corp or s-corp. But Malf you know this means nothing. I mean if we go there, then we want to point out Pelosi is worth 190 million. Joe Biden hides his gains in his son or brother's accounts. His hedge funds with his daughter's husband. Biden is MUCH dirtier than Trump.

and Clinton beats them all (I've seen her balance sheet & income statements). The foundation is very dirty. They laundered $$ through HSBC bank, back when Comey worked at HSBC bank. HSBC is well known for laundering money.

If you're going to toast someone make it mean something MALF. Like child porn or human trafficking, pay to play. The lobbyist are the ones destroying this country. Biden just directly sells us out & takes his 10% cut.

But, whatever you do, if you don't like Trump fine, but don't be a fool that latches on to his enemies. They are even worse. You know this Malf, you just got angered by Trump. The correct response isn't to love his enemies. You wouldn't sit down at the same dinner table as them.
You think Trump is less dirty than these other folks? You're dreaming. I suggest you do some research into his past...he's been cheating people his whole life.
 

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1329794369453400064.html

Democrats are employing some excellent brainwashing technique to defend the election as fair. Here are some of their tricks.​
1. "Refuses to concede" is making you think past the sale that Trump's legal challenges will fail. This is their main persuasion trick.​
continued...​
2. "Audit" is being used to make a simple recount of (alleged) fraudulent ballots seem as if that could potentially find all types of fraud, which a recount is not designed to do. When none is found (because they are not looking), they will declare it proof there was no fraud.​
3. "No evidence" is being used to reframe "plenty of evidence but not yet proven in court."​
4. "No WIDESPREAD fraud" is the defense against the allegation of TARGETED fraud in specific swing state cities. This is misdirection aimed at low-information voters, which is most of the public.​
5. Massive fraud would be "obvious" if it happened, so therefore it didn't happen. This ignores the entire nature of the allegation -- that it is totally obvious to about half of the country. No one believes Biden got far more votes than Obama.​
6. Trump lawsuits are being tossed out of court. The fake news does not tell you the strongest evidence of fraud has not yet been presented to the courts. The first lawsuits were probably just to keep the fraud argument alive while lawyers dug for the good stuff.​
7. Character assassination by bad analogy. The fake news is labelling Trump's legal challenges to the election as McCarthyism, racism, and the work of a dictator staging a coup. All of that is fear-persuasion based on bad analogies.​
8. Experts and trusted media say no fraud has been detected. What they leave out is that they were not looking for it, and in some cases the people responsible for preventing election fraud are just saying they did a terrific job. This is misdirection.​
 
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