Trump Consciousness
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Well, then shut down Skeptiko, then. Guess the first couple years of the show were pointless and taught us nothing. Shut down IANDS and NDERF, too. Call up the folks at University of Virginia and tell them to call it quits: diverdown says we know nothing about the afterlife and therefore Trump is the spiritual role model all humanity should aspire to.
I didn’t say anything about anyone other than Trump as far as life reviews go. I also didn’t say anything about Hitler. Let me tell you though, in case you haven’t acquainted yourself with the NDE accounts: you don’t have to come anywhere near being Hitleresque to have a terrifying NDE.
You do you. I came on here and said what I said mostly for myself. I had to go somewhere to say it and this is the best place for me to do so. I get the feeling that all of us are going to be getting only more greatly polarized along any number of spiritual and emotional sensibilities as this breakdown both nationally and globally continues on. These times are like the story of the tower of Babel. We’re all going to be going our own ways in a short time, I suspect.
One last thought: Does “Trump Consciousness” pass the litmus test of being loving? The self-evident answer tells you everything you need to know.
I didn’t say anything about anyone other than Trump as far as life reviews go. I also didn’t say anything about Hitler. Let me tell you though, in case you haven’t acquainted yourself with the NDE accounts: you don’t have to come anywhere near being Hitleresque to have a terrifying NDE.
You do you. I came on here and said what I said mostly for myself. I had to go somewhere to say it and this is the best place for me to do so. I get the feeling that all of us are going to be getting only more greatly polarized along any number of spiritual and emotional sensibilities as this breakdown both nationally and globally continues on. These times are like the story of the tower of Babel. We’re all going to be going our own ways in a short time, I suspect.
One last thought: Does “Trump Consciousness” pass the litmus test of being loving? The self-evident answer tells you everything you need to know.
"No evidence supports the conventional assumption that “good” people get pleasant NDEs and “bad” people have distressing ones. "
"Saints have reported extremely disturbing NDEs, while felons and suicide attempters have encountered bliss. "
https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual...istressing-NDEs-the-basics-2014.NDE-MoMed.pdf
"Saints have reported extremely disturbing NDEs, while felons and suicide attempters have encountered bliss. "
https://med.virginia.edu/perceptual...istressing-NDEs-the-basics-2014.NDE-MoMed.pdf
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Hon, you were insulting the President of the United States and most of us are citizens here (others love him from afar). But come on, asking a pointless Q about his NDE... weird.
Did you really want to know? Sounds like you are Christian in which case I shall remind you "judge not lest ye be judged". So there is that.
um to your "Trump consciousness passing the litmus for loving". Honey, we can become warriors in God's name. God kills people forever & throws them in the pit of hell. Are you taking us there?
There is a time in every season... and sometimes you do have to not be "loving".
BTW, I'm very happy you wanted to come here to share
That was nice of you to say. We might not all agree & some of us (not me of course) but others do get testy. But, we're like a REAL LIFE FAMILY!
PS: Malf was adopted.
Hon, you were insulting the President of the United States and most of us are citizens here (others love him from afar). But come on, asking a pointless Q about his NDE... weird.
Did you really want to know? Sounds like you are Christian in which case I shall remind you "judge not lest ye be judged". So there is that.
um to your "Trump consciousness passing the litmus for loving". Honey, we can become warriors in God's name. God kills people forever & throws them in the pit of hell. Are you taking us there?
There is a time in every season... and sometimes you do have to not be "loving".
BTW, I'm very happy you wanted to come here to share
That was nice of you to say. We might not all agree & some of us (not me of course) but others do get testy. But, we're like a REAL LIFE FAMILY! PS: Malf was adopted.
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says video unavailable. She did tell Tucker to go away he kept wanting info on the case, she refused to go on his show & he got kind of angry at that I think.
I have no idea what is going on. Twitter changed Bidens profile from President-elect to Politician. So.. and why hasn't what's her name HARRIS, yes her, she said she won't give up her senate seat because she won. What's up with that?
MSM says Biden won on most places... but then we got the background going that cases are going to the Sup. Court so.... (?). If Biden won I wouldn't give him the hard time Trump go. I just want an accurate count. I don't feel that happened.
says video unavailable. She did tell Tucker to go away he kept wanting info on the case, she refused to go on his show & he got kind of angry at that I think.
I have no idea what is going on. Twitter changed Bidens profile from President-elect to Politician. So.. and why hasn't what's her name HARRIS, yes her, she said she won't give up her senate seat because she won. What's up with that?
MSM says Biden won on most places... but then we got the background going that cases are going to the Sup. Court so.... (?). If Biden won I wouldn't give him the hard time Trump go. I just want an accurate count. I don't feel that happened.
Haha. I never said Trump is a spiritual role model that all humanity should aspire to, because I don't expect others to be the same as me.
Here's me thinking I was a filthy swine then.
"Nobody on this forum is ignorant of this. Yet, some of those who should know the best appear to know the least.
A lot of people have been offered a great wealth of spiritual knowledge and insight and have trodden it underfoot like a bunch of filthy swine. I can’t express how terribly disappointed I am in so many of you"
Hay, that's cool man. Speak your mind.
I agree we are all getting more polarized and seem to be going our own ways. It seems inevitable. I hope we can all do this without bloodshed, but that seems unlikely and pains me, because this seems to be the absolute crux of the issue. If both sides cannot see the other side, and both sides are convinced that they are absolutely right, right down to the core of their being, then what else is there to do? Stepping out of the human experience for a minute, I sometimes get the impression that 'forces' outside this realm, have split us into literally two different realities, whereby each side IS actually right in what they are saying and seeing and experiencing. As if it were some kind of twisted game for them to enjoy.
Here's me thinking I was a filthy swine then.
"Nobody on this forum is ignorant of this. Yet, some of those who should know the best appear to know the least.
A lot of people have been offered a great wealth of spiritual knowledge and insight and have trodden it underfoot like a bunch of filthy swine. I can’t express how terribly disappointed I am in so many of you"
Hay, that's cool man. Speak your mind.
I agree we are all getting more polarized and seem to be going our own ways. It seems inevitable. I hope we can all do this without bloodshed, but that seems unlikely and pains me, because this seems to be the absolute crux of the issue. If both sides cannot see the other side, and both sides are convinced that they are absolutely right, right down to the core of their being, then what else is there to do? Stepping out of the human experience for a minute, I sometimes get the impression that 'forces' outside this realm, have split us into literally two different realities, whereby each side IS actually right in what they are saying and seeing and experiencing. As if it were some kind of twisted game for them to enjoy.
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Hunters laptop is real & he is a crackhead. So there is that.
On the Rudy thing, what I understood is they knew they would lose in lower courts because they said they were obama holdovers (?)... they want to go to the Sup. Court to give the evidence. If they don't at least see the case, people are going to flip out. So, let the court call it for Biden. This entire circus will be over soon enough. What a mess.
Hunters laptop is real & he is a crackhead. So there is that.
On the Rudy thing, what I understood is they knew they would lose in lower courts because they said they were obama holdovers (?)... they want to go to the Sup. Court to give the evidence. If they don't at least see the case, people are going to flip out. So, let the court call it for Biden. This entire circus will be over soon enough. What a mess.
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Gotta admit it looks like those voting machines were real sketchy. 3 counties in Georgia found thousands of missing votes... the vote dump looks weird. It doesn't look good, wish it did... another thing, we are to believe a guy who is missing a bunch of marbles, hiding in his basement won. And the guy getting thousands of people at rallies loses .... that doesn't look good. When Harris & Biden went to one rally only 10 people showed up.
Gotta admit it looks like those voting machines were real sketchy. 3 counties in Georgia found thousands of missing votes... the vote dump looks weird. It doesn't look good, wish it did... another thing, we are to believe a guy who is missing a bunch of marbles, hiding in his basement won. And the guy getting thousands of people at rallies loses .... that doesn't look good. When Harris & Biden went to one rally only 10 people showed up.
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Oh please. I know the things Trump did I'm not going to cry over the word "pu$$y". What else ya got? College, the "P" word. What else? nothing. We could look up more things he did well. He got nominated for 3 Nobels. AND if you say something you have to prove it AND no submitting stupid stuff nobody cares about. Like he's divorced.. nobody cares.
Meanwhile back at the ranch, do you think Joe Biden will take care of his new grandbaby? The one the idiot said he didn't get pg... then proof showed YOU ARE THE FATHER! I know you're going to say Hunter isn't running for Pres.
No, he isn't, but the crackhead will be in YOUR White House. Have fun with that.
Oh please. I know the things Trump did I'm not going to cry over the word "pu$$y". What else ya got? College, the "P" word. What else? nothing. We could look up more things he did well. He got nominated for 3 Nobels. AND if you say something you have to prove it AND no submitting stupid stuff nobody cares about. Like he's divorced.. nobody cares.
Meanwhile back at the ranch, do you think Joe Biden will take care of his new grandbaby? The one the idiot said he didn't get pg... then proof showed YOU ARE THE FATHER! I know you're going to say Hunter isn't running for Pres.
No, he isn't, but the crackhead will be in YOUR White House. Have fun with that.
Let me address your last point btw.
The whole reason Trump has so many fanatical supporters, is that the left has become so radicalised and extreme, and not only that, has force fed their views down the rest of society and ruined lives if you don't agree.
This specific point, is absolutely why people are coming to blows, and WILL NOT compromise. When you push people into corners, they tend to fight back.
Also, being loving, is not equal to being kind or pleasant. I think this idea is a stupid denial of the human experience, and all the predators that tend to lurk here. Sometimes you gotta be tough with people. I once read a book called "Assholes", by Aron James that tends to sum up my views on many things.......
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/215671/assholes-by-aaron-james/
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In the New York Times bestseller Nick Hornby calls “helpful, stimulating, and very timely” (The Believer), philosopher Aaron James presents a theory of the asshole that is both intellectually provocative and existentially necessary.
What does it mean for someone to be an asshole? The answer is not obvious, despite the fact that we are often personally stuck dealing with people for whom there is no better name. Try as we might to avoid them, assholes are found everywhere and in multiple iterations: smug assholes, royal assholes, the presidential asshole, corporate assholes, reckless assholes. The list goes on.
Asshole management begins with asshole understanding. Much as Machiavelli illuminated political strategy for princes, this book finally gives us the concepts to think or say why assholes disturb us so, and explains why such people seem part of the human social condition, especially in an age of raging narcissism and unbridled capitalism. These concepts are also practically useful, as understanding the asshole we are stuck with helps us think constructively about how to handle problems he (and they are mostly all men) presents. We get a better sense of when the asshole is best resisted, and when he is best ignored—a better sense of what is, and what is not, worth fighting for."
The whole reason Trump has so many fanatical supporters, is that the left has become so radicalised and extreme, and not only that, has force fed their views down the rest of society and ruined lives if you don't agree.
This specific point, is absolutely why people are coming to blows, and WILL NOT compromise. When you push people into corners, they tend to fight back.
Also, being loving, is not equal to being kind or pleasant. I think this idea is a stupid denial of the human experience, and all the predators that tend to lurk here. Sometimes you gotta be tough with people. I once read a book called "Assholes", by Aron James that tends to sum up my views on many things.......
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/215671/assholes-by-aaron-james/
"
In the New York Times bestseller Nick Hornby calls “helpful, stimulating, and very timely” (The Believer), philosopher Aaron James presents a theory of the asshole that is both intellectually provocative and existentially necessary.
What does it mean for someone to be an asshole? The answer is not obvious, despite the fact that we are often personally stuck dealing with people for whom there is no better name. Try as we might to avoid them, assholes are found everywhere and in multiple iterations: smug assholes, royal assholes, the presidential asshole, corporate assholes, reckless assholes. The list goes on.
Asshole management begins with asshole understanding. Much as Machiavelli illuminated political strategy for princes, this book finally gives us the concepts to think or say why assholes disturb us so, and explains why such people seem part of the human social condition, especially in an age of raging narcissism and unbridled capitalism. These concepts are also practically useful, as understanding the asshole we are stuck with helps us think constructively about how to handle problems he (and they are mostly all men) presents. We get a better sense of when the asshole is best resisted, and when he is best ignored—a better sense of what is, and what is not, worth fighting for."