UFO book reading recommendations

EthanT

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Ian Gordon said:
I get the feeling a lot - most? - UFO researchers develop a perspective and try to fit the data into it. I've heard even the sainted Vallée has been known to cherry pick.
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I'm leaning towards "a lot" myself. But ones like the Belgium Wave, Phoenix Lights, etc don't seem to fit. But famous ones like the Iranian pilot case, kinda sounds like Plasma to me now.
 
Ian Gordon

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EthanT said:
I'm leaning towards "a lot" myself. But ones like the Belgium Wave, Phoenix Lights, etc don't seem to fit. But famous ones like the Iranian pilot case, kinda sounds like Plasma to me now.
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That Belgium Wave is something isn't it? I think that's my favorite part in the Kean book.
 
EthanT

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Ian Gordon said:
That Belgium Wave is something isn't it? I think that's my favorite part in the Kean book.
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Mine too! And there seems to be something so similar between that one and the Phoenix Lights, Hudson River Valley and the wave that hit the UK too (forget the name of that one).
 
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EthanT said:
Mine too! And there seems to be something so similar between that one and the Phoenix Lights, Hudson River Valley and the wave that hit the UK too (forget the name of that one).
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Hynek wrote a book about the Hudson River Valley sightings that I'm gonna get to eventually.

http://www.amazon.com/Night-Siege-Hudson-Valley-Sightings/dp/156718362X

Leaving room for variations, it still seems waves frequently have their own distinctive characteristics, like the many short humanoid sightings in the European wave of fall 1954.
http://www.nicap.org/reports/waveof1954.htm

For a psi hypothesis of France 54, see:
http://parasociology.blogspot.ca/2010/10/1954-french-ufo-wave.html
 
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manjit

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Great thread.

I know it's mentioned in the OP, but Vallee's Passport to Magonia has influenced me the most in this field. Excellent book.

Also, I've started a whole new thread about this book, and it's not directly or solely related to UFOs, but as it's so under-known, and is important (I feel) addition to the UFO genre, I'll add it again here:

The Stargate Conspiracy by Lynn Picknett & Clive Prince:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Stargate-Conspiracy-Revealing-extraterrestrial-intelligence/dp/0751529966

Website: http://www.picknettprince.com/books/stargateconspiracy/stargate.htm
 
satyanveshi

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All human reasoning and evidence finding is prone to bias. Even that of the best -- even bias researchers fall for this.

With that said, Hansen and Vallee are required reading, imho.

They at least present a systemic approach to think more systemically and widely, without immediately nailing it down to one stody, one hypothesis, one type of motivation, explanation and then just force-fit data.

Then again there are thousands of UFO books. Some have just one good idea, but that one idea can be really eye-/mind-opening. Examples: Project Beta (systemic disinfo exists), Wonders in the Sky (the phenomena are not new by any stretch of modern history), UFOs and Nukes (yes, there are security implications and it involves nukes & our policies), etc.

I wish there was a reader's digest summary of UFO books: just the facts, just the main points and what ever evidence is there to support it.

Too many books to read... :)
 
lhl

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I just remembered an excellent online resource on the early modern UFO- history (1940's and onwards). Strictly speaking, this isn't a book recomendation. But I think it belongs in this thread all the same:

Back in 2008 on the Daily Kos (an online community with a heavy political leaning towards the Democratic Party.), someone with the username 'two roads' began posting weekly posts on the ufo phenomenon under the common title: Saturday Night Uforia. This was during the election campaign, and I think the posts were a response to how the UFO-phenomenon was being used for ridicule and smearing. For instance the democratic candidate Dennis Kucinich received a lot of ridicule for admitting to seeing a UFO. So the aim of these posts were to show, based on the original documents and newspaper articles, that this was a phenomenon to be taken seriously.

These weekly posts continued until 2011 when all the articles were moved to their own site: www.saturdaynightuforia.com. Combined these articles constitute a treasure trove of well-documented UFO-history and as far as I can tell the series is still ongoing.
 
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Far.From.Here

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lhl said:
I just remembered an excellent online resource on the early modern UFO- history (1940's and onwards). Strictly speaking, this isn't a book recomendation. But I think it belongs in this thread all the same:

Back in 2008 on the Daily Kos (an online community with a heavy political leaning towards the Democratic Party.), someone with the username 'two roads' began posting weekly posts on the ufo phenomenon under the common title: Saturday Night Uforia. This was during the election campaign, and I think the posts were a response to how the UFO-phenomenon was being used for ridicule and smearing. For instance the democratic candidate Dennis Kucinich received a lot of ridicule for admitting to seeing a UFO. So the aim of these posts were to show, based on the original documents and newspaper articles, that this was a phenomenon to be taken seriously.

These weekly posts continued until 2011 when all the articles were moved to their own site: www.saturdaynightuforia.com. Combined these articles constitute a treasure trove of well-documented UFO-history and as far as I can tell the series is still ongoing.
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That is a nice site. Thanks.

Also not a book recommendation, but I've been listening through the archives of The Paracast, at www.paracast.com. They began the weekly show in 2006. I think and continue to this day. So anyone wanting a fairly level-headed long and winding trip through UFO land can do worse than roll through those shows. There are commercials, so it is best to download each episode and use the skip ahead feature of some tool like VLC. About 10% of the shows are not UFO related, and I mostly skip those. They have a weekly guest and it is basically a who's who of anyone who was still alive after 2000 who had anything at all to do with UFOs, even Vallee. The one host, David, has had some really interesting paranormal experiences which he slowly recounts over time, including a pretty remarkable message from the beyond shortly after his mother died, which they had agreed she would try and send.

On one or two occasions they have talked with guests about some remarkable events that I hadn't heard of before, including this one from Brazil.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varginha_UFO_incident

That was an amazing incident that was talked about by José Gevaerd in his first appearance on the show.

I listen to it as I work so I tune in and out over the course of the day. But overall a pretty good show.
 
Far.From.Here

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I realize there is probably a UFO documentary thread. But I'm too lazy to look for it. Was listening to the paracast today when the show was "The true story of Dorothy Izatt: An alien contactee who has accumulated over 30,000 feet of film footage backing her claim."

I then went to Amazon and rented the documentary. This is probably the most compelling case of the paranormal I have ever seen documented. I don't see any way to deny that Izatt has encountered some non-physical presence for most of her life. I would challenge anyone to listen to the podcast and watch the documentary and come away unchanged. Amazing stuff.

Here is the podcast: http://www.theparacast.com/podcast/march-2-2008-frank-longo-and-peter-gutilla/

Here is the documentary on Amazon.:

http://www.amazon.com/Capturing-Lig...425147060&sr=8-5&keywords=capturing+the+light
 
Ian Gordon

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Far.From.Here said:
Was listening to the paracast today when the show was "The true story of Dorothy Izatt: An alien contactee who has accumulated over 30,000 feet of film footage backing her claim."

I then went to Amazon and rented the documentary. This is probably the most compelling case of the paranormal I have ever seen documented. I don't see any way to deny that Izatt has encountered some non-physical presence for most of her life. I would challenge anyone to listen to the podcast and watch the documentary and come away unchanged. Amazing stuff.

Here is the podcast: http://www.theparacast.com/podcast/march-2-2008-frank-longo-and-peter-gutilla/

Here is the documentary on Amazon.:

http://www.amazon.com/Capturing-Light-Frank-Longo/dp/B001I0OVK6/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1425147060&sr=8-5&keywords=capturing the light
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Sounds interesting! I see there are a few clips available on youtube.

Far.From.Here said:
I realize there is probably a UFO documentary thread. But I'm too lazy to look for it.
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Here it is:
http://www.skeptiko-forum.com/threads/ufo-documentaries.195/
 
LazerHawk

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Triangular UFOs. An Estimate of the Situation. David Marler.

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Here's a list of a massive amount of free books that are very good if you have the time.

http://issuu.com/disclosureproject
 
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Jeffrey Mishlove's PK Man documents the exploits of Ted Owens who came in contact with Space Intelligences as he called them and was able to affect weather patterns over large areas.He even went as far as convincing a town hall secretary to put on paper his predictions that apparently all came true.Heard about this on Coast to Coast AM.
 
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What would be a primary list and secondary list of essential UFO books that deal with the consciousness aspect of the phenomenon? I know some of them are already mentioned here but it's ok if they are repeated in a comprehensive listing. Bonus points for books that touch upon psychedelics. I'm trying to compile resources for my research. Thanks!
 
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AltrusianGrace said:
What would be a primary list and secondary list of essential UFO books that deal with the consciousness aspect of the phenomenon? I know some of them are already mentioned here but it's ok if they are repeated in a comprehensive listing. Bonus points for books that touch upon psychedelics. I'm trying to compile resources for my research. Thanks!
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Some books come to mind.John Mack's Abductions and Passport to the Cosmos,DMT The Spirit Molecule by Rick Strassman and books by Terence Mckenna,some book with the title Xenolinguistics by a woman can't recall her name,Talking to Extraterrestrials by Lisette Larkins.I could recommend the Convoluted Universe books by Dolores Cannon,but it contains hardcore New Age metaphysical material that's hard to validate.They do make for excellent reading though.
 
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SciFiFanatic101 said:
Some books come to mind.John Mack's Abductions and Passport to the Cosmos,DMT The Spirit Molecule by Rick Strassman and books by Terence Mckenna,some book with the title Xenolinguistics by a woman can't recall her name,Talking to Extraterrestrials by Lisette Larkins.I could recommend the Convoluted Universe books by Dolores Cannon,but it contains hardcore New Age metaphysical material that's hard to validate.They do make for excellent reading though.
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Very cool. Thank you. I'm actually familiar with the first several recommendations up until the Lisette Larkins book which I will investigate. Not sure I could stomach the heavy new age stuff at the moment but maybe in time.
 
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Has this book been mentioned on here before?

https://www.amazon.com/Super-Natura...F8&qid=1466571790&sr=8-1&keywords=jeff+kripal



I really enjoyed this one. Covers and integrates a range of topics from mythology/spirituality/ufology/abductions, etc. More along the lines of the kind of interpretation that transcends the subjective/objective, physical/nonphysical, real/unreal dichotomy like with John Mack's views, rather than the old nuts and bolts approach.
 
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