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I have expressed my idea several times, but it seems I haven't ever successfully got anyone understand my meaning.
Now I take another try, wishing dear someone will get what I want to speak:
Nowadays many people and thinkers like to think one question: "Is our world ultimately an illusion or a virtual game?"
I have my own answer about this question.
First, let us make this thing clear:
Each of us use our own eyes, visual and other sensory systems, and our brain or consciousness' thinking ability to observe and understand this world, so everything we got is through a subjective curtain. None of us can find a way to "touch the real reality".
What conclusion we can draw from the above baseline?
The real reality might exist, might not exist, either is possible, we won't know with 100% certainty on which one is correct, which one is wrong, or both are right, or both are not precisely correct, or things should be stated in a more complex way.
We will use our own sensory organs and thinking ability which are all more or less subjective to observe and understand this world, whether it is real or an illusion, we won't be able to directly touch its reality or find and prove the genuine truth that it is sure an illusion.
We don't know. There is no way to know.
But it is very natural that we don't know, we should have understood that our sensory organs and thinkings are all subjective and possibly delusive, as early as when we were a kid who started to observe and think. We shouldn't have felt strange about the idea "our world might be a virtual game", it has always been like this. We should have asked the question: "Hey have you ever thought about that our world might be real?" rather than "Hey have you ever thought about that our world might be an illusion?"
So why we feel it is curious to say "our world might be an illusion", not "our world might be real"? Why we have got accustomed and subconsciously accepted about "our world is real", so as to feel startled and frightened about the idea "our world might be an illusion", not the opposite case?
Because we "FEEL THIS WORLD IS REAL", and this is further because "THIS WORLD HAS ALMOST INFINITE INFORMATION AMOUNT".
So, let us make this clear:
When we refer to the word "REAL", we actually refer to either of its two meanings without consciously noticing that sometimes we confused these two meanings:
1, one meaning of the word "REAL", is "the scientific definition of the ultimately objective reality", as I said before, we are unable to directly touch such a reality because everything our consciousness got is through our sensory organs and thinking ability's curtain.
2, another meaning of the word "REAL", is "we feel something real because it shows sufficient amount of information to us, and we feel something not real because it hides or is actually absent of sufficient amount of information".
When a person makes a "big claim" but shows the audiences very scarce amount of information, it is almost always the case of lying, either purposefully deception or self lying in the first place.
Although we are unable to touch the first meaning of "REAL" as I said above, we can touch the second meaning, as we get more and more information, the things in discussion seem more and more real to us.
A real person like you, they, and me seem very real to us, is because you, they, and me emit and will ooze many amount of information, whereas a fictitious person in a tale story or an NPC in a video game seems less real to us, especially when we try to hear and interact more and more with them, is because they show us very scarce amount of information, they start to be irresponsible or repetitive when we get to know them for a short while and try to further continue.
REAL IS ABOUT INFORMATION AMOUNT.
It is a big puzzle why near death experiencers stated that their experiences are "definitely real, more real than our physical reality and mundane world", but at the same time they provided far far less information amount than our physical reality. I don't understand this, because they seem to have no reason to lie.
But it almost always is a lie, when someone makes a "BIG CLAIM" while providing piteously little amount of information.
It is strange.
Now I take another try, wishing dear someone will get what I want to speak:
Nowadays many people and thinkers like to think one question: "Is our world ultimately an illusion or a virtual game?"
I have my own answer about this question.
First, let us make this thing clear:
Each of us use our own eyes, visual and other sensory systems, and our brain or consciousness' thinking ability to observe and understand this world, so everything we got is through a subjective curtain. None of us can find a way to "touch the real reality".
What conclusion we can draw from the above baseline?
The real reality might exist, might not exist, either is possible, we won't know with 100% certainty on which one is correct, which one is wrong, or both are right, or both are not precisely correct, or things should be stated in a more complex way.
We will use our own sensory organs and thinking ability which are all more or less subjective to observe and understand this world, whether it is real or an illusion, we won't be able to directly touch its reality or find and prove the genuine truth that it is sure an illusion.
We don't know. There is no way to know.
But it is very natural that we don't know, we should have understood that our sensory organs and thinkings are all subjective and possibly delusive, as early as when we were a kid who started to observe and think. We shouldn't have felt strange about the idea "our world might be a virtual game", it has always been like this. We should have asked the question: "Hey have you ever thought about that our world might be real?" rather than "Hey have you ever thought about that our world might be an illusion?"
So why we feel it is curious to say "our world might be an illusion", not "our world might be real"? Why we have got accustomed and subconsciously accepted about "our world is real", so as to feel startled and frightened about the idea "our world might be an illusion", not the opposite case?
Because we "FEEL THIS WORLD IS REAL", and this is further because "THIS WORLD HAS ALMOST INFINITE INFORMATION AMOUNT".
So, let us make this clear:
When we refer to the word "REAL", we actually refer to either of its two meanings without consciously noticing that sometimes we confused these two meanings:
1, one meaning of the word "REAL", is "the scientific definition of the ultimately objective reality", as I said before, we are unable to directly touch such a reality because everything our consciousness got is through our sensory organs and thinking ability's curtain.
2, another meaning of the word "REAL", is "we feel something real because it shows sufficient amount of information to us, and we feel something not real because it hides or is actually absent of sufficient amount of information".
When a person makes a "big claim" but shows the audiences very scarce amount of information, it is almost always the case of lying, either purposefully deception or self lying in the first place.
Although we are unable to touch the first meaning of "REAL" as I said above, we can touch the second meaning, as we get more and more information, the things in discussion seem more and more real to us.
A real person like you, they, and me seem very real to us, is because you, they, and me emit and will ooze many amount of information, whereas a fictitious person in a tale story or an NPC in a video game seems less real to us, especially when we try to hear and interact more and more with them, is because they show us very scarce amount of information, they start to be irresponsible or repetitive when we get to know them for a short while and try to further continue.
REAL IS ABOUT INFORMATION AMOUNT.
It is a big puzzle why near death experiencers stated that their experiences are "definitely real, more real than our physical reality and mundane world", but at the same time they provided far far less information amount than our physical reality. I don't understand this, because they seem to have no reason to lie.
But it almost always is a lie, when someone makes a "BIG CLAIM" while providing piteously little amount of information.
It is strange.
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