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#41
17 years ago when 9/11 happened most people simply could not believe the FBI was this corrupt.

Thank goodness the Truth is coming out.
Government is just the biggest baddest organized crime gang. The fact that they protect you against real threats like foreign invasion doesn't make it any more ethical than extortion rackets that provide real protection against petty criminals.

If someone wants one fact to prove the the US government is fundamentally, institutionally, constitutionally, corrupt I would suggest civil forfeiture is proof. The police can seize any property without a trial by saying it was used in a crime. It doesn't matter if the owner of the property is not involved in the crime or is suspected but found innocent. To get their property back, proving their innocence won't help, they have to go to court to prove the property was not used in a crime because civil forfeiture is completely legal and upheld by the scoundrels sitting on the supreme court. If the US was a nation founded on justice instead of corruption, this would have been corrected long ago. People stopped by the police who are carrying large sums of cash routinely have it seized because the police say it is evidence of a crime because criminals carry large sums of cash. The police get to keep some of the money for departmental use. When the police have our money how do you hire a lawyer to prove there was no crime?

http://www.businessinsider.com/supreme-court-ruling-on-civil-forfeiture-2014-11


Is this outrageous or what?
http://www.nationalreview.com/corne...-protect-property-rights-leading-backlash-das
AL Sheriffs & DAs: No Incentive to Enforce the Law if We Can’t Keep the Funds
 
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#42
Government is just the biggest baddest organized crime gang.
I used to say this back when I was an Anarcho-Capitalist.

Then I realized some type of government is necessary. Anarchy doesn't work because humans always have and always will naturally form power hierarchies due to that fact that the vast majority of people want to be taken care of, led, and have some type of parental figure.
 
#43
I used to say this back when I was an Anarcho-Capitalist.

Then I realized some type of government is necessary. Anarchy doesn't work because humans always have and always will naturally form power hierarchies due to that fact that the vast majority of people want to be taken care of, led, and have some type of parental figure.
I am not advocating anarchy. Anarchy can only last for a few seconds after it is established because, as you say, power hierarchies (organized crime gangs) form naturally. Part of it is because some people want to be taken care of like you say, but part of it is because some people want to be parasites enriching themselves off people they can dominate.

But there are a lot of people who just want to be left alone to live their lives in peace, who don't want a nanny government or to force their ways on their neighbors. They need to be aware in order to look out for their own interests.
 
#44
Given the FBI cover-up of the Las Vegas attack and the revelations of the FBI use of fake data to get a surveillance warrant on Trump for political purposes, I am much more open to the idea that the government deliberately kept their hands off the terrorists who were reported to be training as pilots under suspicious circumstances.

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/18/u...ew-for-years-about-terror-pilot-training.html
The F.B.I. had been aware for several years that Osama bin Laden and his terrorist network were training pilots in the United States and elsewhere around the world, according to court records and interviews at flight schools and with federal law enforcement officials.
And there is also this:
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/g...n-your-hands-while-i-got-shot/article/2621121

Garland terror victim to FBI: Did you sit on your hands while I got shot?
by Todd Shepherd | Apr 24, 2017

A man shot in the leg during a 2015 terrorist attack is pushing the FBI to explain why one of its agents was at the scene and did nothing, and if the agent was filming the incident for the terrorists as part of his undercover work of trying to infiltrate the group.
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But in the last few weeks, it became clear that in the car immediately behind Simpson and Soofi was an undercover FBI agent, who was also taking pictures of the scene just seconds before they opened fire. Once the shots were fired, the undercover FBI agent tried to flee the scene, according to a recent report by 60 Minutes.

Revelations through court proceedings have also shown that the agent was undercover and in contact with Simpson for several weeks leading up to the attack. At one point a few weeks before the attack, the agent had texted Simpson the message, "Tear up Texas."
And there's this:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...ored-took-fbi-3-days-find-terrorist-brothers/

Russia Warned FBI Several Times about Boston Bomber – Threat was Ignored, Then It Took FBI 3 Days to Find Terrorist Brothers
 
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