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Most conspiracy theorists that I’ve followed tend to drift more and more into high contrast-black and white thinking as they progress down their particular rabbit hole. In real life, good and evil is seldom so clearly defined and absolute. Yet every expedition down the rabbit hole starts to begin with the presumption that absolute evil is somehow lurking behind everything. Hanlon's razor is a good adage in this instance: Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.Thanks for the kind words and the reassurance that I won't be cracked for that glorious omelet - although Obama called me a "Bitter Clinger" and Hillary Clinton said I am "Deplorable" and Vortex and Steve seem to agree with these fearless leaders' assessments....so I wonder sometimes.
It is unfortunate to have come to fierce disagreement and at a personal level of vindictiveness with two regulars here; especially so early in my participation.
As I started off here saying, wars and all of that are NOT due to conspiracies - at least not as I would define a conspiracy. They are started by a foreign policy establishment that wants to make the world a better place and who are convinced that their ideology is superior and thus worthy of reigning over others - which is exactly the attitude that Vortex and Steve hold.
I am extremely leery of people that are not able to process grey areas or able to live within murky morality. I find such people to at best be dishonest hypocrites and, at worst, the kind of fanatical believers that are the ones who start the wars (for the greater good, of course). Such people always end up demonizing groups of people with certain ideologies and making saints out of others.
John Lennon wrote leftist/utopianist anthem "imagine" - all the while he was a multi-millionaire (1%er we'd call him these days), with an obscene collection of fur coats, a bad drinking habit and was a woman beater. Physician heal thyself. He'd fit in nicely with the Clintons. He is exactly the kind of person that sits in his office at the state dept and goes to cocktail parties to discuss which eggs need cracking. A classic example! Is it a conspiracy? Not in my opinion. It's right there in the open for the most part. The People just dupe themselves by denying their own eyes. The people want to believe in things that don't exist. They want good leaders so badly that they "find" them in the wrong people...looking for love in all the wrong places...
Yes, I did say that terrorists and their supporters should be hunted down and killed. Unfortunately, I was misrepresented as saying that all foreigners should be killed - or something like that - because I said that Iraqis and Afghanis are flunkies. To clarify, I think that these people should be left to being flunky tribes with flags (which is what they've always been) and to kill each other as often and as much as they desire; as long as they are not posing a threat to us. Vortex and Steve think that somehow the tribes' consciousness will be raised and they will be all sunshine and rainbows and signing happy songs in harmony with the rest of the world in addition to their neighbors. The problem starts when this little fantasy doesn't emerge. Then the do-gooders want to intervene, Then comes the "nation building" and all of that rot....I am a big fan of the humanities. They show us what humans are and that they have not changed a bit since they started writing down their stories. I despise the social sciences because they seek to create through programming a "new man". The Soviets tried this and are extreme, but logical outcome of this kind of thinking; that people will be changed so as to do what people have never done before.
I think all of that relates to some conspiracy theories - it goes like this, more or less; If not for predatory governments messing with the noble little people, the world would be living in harmony and equality. Who are these predators? How have they achieved their nefarious ends? Start concocting the theories. It can't be that 19 Muslim fanatics turned airplanes into missiles. No! That violates the larger conspiracy world view. It must be that the predatory US govt attacked its own people so as to further their evil plots for world domination. Once you have accepted that the US govt is that evil, then you can make yourself believe anything, even in the light of strong evidence to the contrary. Occam's razor goes right out the window.
Then you have people that know nothing about, say, explosives and structural engineering playing at amateur sleuth and selectively favoring "evidence" and media personalities that confirm their biases. There are a number of videos that can be watched that very plausibly (to me at least) show how building 7 came down due to the aftermath of two airplanes hitting the main buildings. The refutation of these arguments is refuted and that refutation is, in turn, is refuted...all on minutiae that none of us has the expertise to evaluate and that, in fact, even structural engineers aren't qualified to discuss unless they have detailed knowledge of the specifics of building 7's construction, full facts about the nature of the fires, etc.....it is idiotic for someone to declare that they "know" building 7 was a controlled demolition and I question why anyone would invest so much time and energy into nursing that perspective after all of these years - and must conclude that they are true believers in a world view that is not a good fit with the realities on the ground.
Real intentional covert conspiracies are rare in my own experience, and are really hard to keep quiet depending on the number of conspirators. This is like the old Mob saying: Three can keep a secret, as long as two of them are dead. Far and away more common are the more overt conspiracies of willful ignorance, in which any number of otherwise decent people can choose to “look the other way” to ignore blatant corruption, for instance.
Once we believe that absolute evil is active in the world, this automatically suggests the presence of an absolute good somewhere. In order to combat the presence of absolute evil, especially in human nature, we must make continual demands that humans improve to be “better people”. According today’s Cultural Marxists, this means demanding more and more inhuman perfection out of mere humans. Trotsky was the father of this process, which follows his insistence on never-ending continuous reform and revolution. Good will never be good enough for the new Secular Puritans.
Naturally, since the ends always justify means, the leaders of the continual Cultural Revolution need never practice what they preach, so hypocrisy is a tell-tale sign of this mindset. "The perfect is the enemy of the good" and most youngsters coming up today well realize that it is impossible to ever be "good enough" by these standards. Society’s (by "society" I mean the media used to influence the weak-minded) current standards are hypocritical at best, and downright insane at worst.
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