I listened contemplatively to this solo show on September 7, 2019. I then wrote up a document that were my answers at that time. Note that today is only 33 days after I performed this exercise and so, why I am stating this is because, if I answered these questions today, my answers would be an expansion upon where I was at on September 7, 2019. Still, to honor the effort of Alex, I have chosen to post what I wrote up on that day (with very small edits to clean up the responses as my original was only in draft form).
Question 1 -
One (a) – “Are we biological robots in a meaningless universe?”
No (it is not the question anymore for Alex or myself and many others)
One (b) – “How can this [the consideration that consciousness doesn’t even exist] still be propped up as a real question among what are supposed to be the intellectual elites of science?” “How and why are
they promoting such nonsense?”
My answer to this is -
Because
they are wittingly or unwittingly part of the technocrat ruling class and the likely driver is that they, as an individualized expression within consciousness, perhaps consciously but most certainly subconsciously are located on the fear side of “the single line graph” instead of on the “everything is OK” side of the graph which is referenced with regard to Question Two.
Any individuated expression of consciousness and/or a collective of individuated expressions of consciousness that are consciously or subconsciously anchored in this fear zone has a motivation to escape the fear zone. Some have determined the way to achieve that is to control the rest of us… the masses for example from the view of “the controlling elite.” (Not all that may be considered by some of us as “elite” are part of “the controlling elite.” Additionally, those that could fit well in the group “the controlling elite” are not necessarily in conscious, active conspiracy with each other – but they usually recognize shared view points and that then translates to working together in some ways and fighting over power, territory in other instances – in either case, they are engaged with each other).
Of course, the controlling elite document, study, analyze their progress and thus further validate to themselves “their plan” by measuring their success (or not, but clearly they are seeing more and more success than failure) in achieving the goal of dominant (or complete) control. Thus, their usage of power manifests most prolifically in the measurable world (material realm) which, as we know, the human body is subject to. By using the material world as their measuring stick, they focus more and more upon it and thus focus less and less on that which extends beyond materiality. They are becoming meaningless themselves though they may one day achieve physical (or isolated, individuated mind) immortality, but they’ll lose the connection to that possibility known as eternal life (I am using this term to imply “the soul”
be their such).
The controlling elite’s ultimate goal is to control all available options for each and every human body vehicle and to be able to manipulate that vehicle so that the individualized mind is more easily controlled because the filtering mechanism (“the brain”) has been artificially hijacked from its natural, organic growth trajectory. We are pushed in the direction of being “made” into meaningless robots (at least from the POV of one’s physical body). But the soul (again, be there such) may have its own determination and thus influence as to what time/what world, it may “enter into” when it is post transition from a lifetime on Earth at a time like this. The goal of these elite appears to be the cutting off of one’s connection to the aspect of their being that desires, meaning, meaningful exploration and “living lives” laced with fulfilling experiences where meaning arises both within and without and sometimes simultaneously – like synchronicities.
The dilemma may be expressed in this question - when does this control encroach their own group? Because it is pretty easy to see the ultimate outcome of such an endeavor is that a single human being (the eventual “King of the Mountain” –) finds himself in control of the physical world. And this is the path of [metaphor here] “the Antichrist.” It is the view of some known as the Traditionalists that “the Antichrist” is simply a system. But if the system achieves its goal, there will be a single physical being ruling all.
Side Note: I don’t “do” religion and I don’t take give energy to religious prophecies (any more) but the metaphors they provide are useful and that is why I utilize them.
In looking at this, and by the way I define the word “life” I would say that this system really represents a system of “antilife.” And I see that the ultimate dichotomy is life / antilife.
Life, for me, is individualized consciousness which perceives at its level of individualization that it has freedom to explore that which it perceives is not itself and to have the capacity to make choices for itself as to what to explore and how to explore it
all within consciousness as considered to be via monistic idealism. When that freedom is perceived to no longer exist, usually the individualized expression of consciousness no longer wishes to exist anymore as it is confined from exploration and this sort of experience is, for me - antilife.
In addition, life (to me and from this perspective) is about relationship because we are perceiving others exploring as well. Perhaps we choose the life of a hermit to avoid relationship. Perhaps we were dropped off on an island at birth and somehow survived and appear alone yet still, that specific individualized expression of consciousness sees, hears, touches that which it may perceive not to be itself and thus cannot avoid relationship. Relationship is an inseparable component of life (at our individualized level of being… the whirlpool of Bernardo Kastrup) and indeed, perhaps, along with choice, an equally important component of the exploration of all possibility of life.
Note: Some of what I wrote above was influenced by my experience of Alex’s interview with Jasun Horsley who I sought out on the internet and started listening to his podcasts, reading his blogs and then had the pleasure of having a few video conversations with him. Jasun is a really wonderful human being and I am grateful for my time with him. Jasun's site -
https://auticulture.com/
And so, having shared that bit about Jasun, one of the podcasts he did was a conversation he had with Charles Upton. Charles Upton wrote a book called – The System of Antichrist: Truth and Falsehood in Postmodernism and the New Age (
here). Its not what you might think (if dogmatic is your concern) though Upton is of the school of the Traditionalists and convinced things, at least at the level of the material world, are not getting better, only getting worse.
My own view, because I am one of those silly “ever hopeful” types, is that there may be something the Traditionalists have not considered like that which is suggested in the book, Syntropy: The Spirit of Love (
here) but I have now gone too far for this post… hopefully I can get to Syntropy down the road.